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  • #120,681
  • Jul 10, 2009 11:21am Jul 10, 2009 11:21am
Quoting VinzZ
I had a long and a short running with 62 pips between them, both with about 50 pip TP... market didn't move the whole day, maybe it was good for scalping. I just took a small 9 pips in the latest down move. More than nothing. I think both my long and short trade will have to hibernate over the weekend...
Running stops is just a "palatable" way of avoiding speaking the truth....it is STEALING! The manipulated pump yesterday and that of today ran stops/stole short positions (caused liquidation of others' shorts so the manipulators could short). The manipulators did not do this two days in a row for nothing. My take is that there is a plan in the works for the EU to plummet. But that is just my current hypothesis......only time will tell.
  • #120,682
  • Jul 10, 2009 11:23am Jul 10, 2009 11:23am
Quoting VinzZ
I had a long and a short running with 62 pips between them, both with about 50 pip TP... market didn't move the whole day, maybe it was good for scalping. I just took a small 9 pips in the latest down move. More than nothing. I think both my long and short trade will have to hibernate over the weekend...
wow long and short on the same account????? what overseas broker do you deal with???


mm

p.s. miss those days......
He who hesitates is hesitant....which always leads to bad entries.
  • #120,683
  • Jul 10, 2009 11:28am Jul 10, 2009 11:28am
Quoting Mackeymax
wow long and short on the same account????? what overseas broker do you deal with???


mm

p.s. miss those days......
If I can go long & short on the same account I can make twice as much money, right?
"If The Fool persists in his Folly he will become wise." - William Blake
  • #120,684
  • Jul 10, 2009 11:32am Jul 10, 2009 11:32am
I have the SDX-TzPivots, but there is something different there, text is black and is quite readable on a black background On the THV thread there is a THV3 SDX-TzPivots indicator but still it ain't that one you show, even if I change option all over. Care to post it here?

Quoting traderathome
SDX-TzPivots......check THV thread where it was last posted. Might find it quickly on a link off of page one of that thread.
Close your eyes when you feel you are going under.
  • #120,685
  • Jul 10, 2009 11:35am Jul 10, 2009 11:35am
Quoting The Fool
If I can go long & short on the same account I can make twice as much money, right?
Yes, if you can MANIPULATE accordingly. That is why the hedge funds got the NFA to remove that privilege from retailers.
  • #120,686
  • Jul 10, 2009 11:36am Jul 10, 2009 11:36am
Quoting traderathome
Running stops is just a "palatable" way of avoiding speaking the truth....it is STEALING! The manipulated pump yesterday and that of today ran stops/stole short positions (caused liquidation of others' shorts so the manipulators could short). The manipulators did not do this two days in a row for nothing. My take is that there is a plan in the works for the EU to plummet. But that is just my current hypothesis......only time will tell.
When you accept the fact that since the beginning manipulation, inside trading, privileged information, etc existed you stop fighting it and just trade accordly
  • #120,687
  • Jul 10, 2009 11:37am Jul 10, 2009 11:37am
Quoting VinzZ
I have the SDX-TzPivots, but there is something different there, text is black and is quite readable on a black background On the THV thread there is a THV3 SDX-TzPivots indicator but still it ain't that one you show, even if I change option all over. Care to post it here?
A new release is in the works, but for now you can change colors of everything in that indy to get it to look better for your liking. I suggest you open MetaEditor in MT4, select your indy from the Indicators list, and read the notes at the top of the resulting compile.
  • #120,688
  • Jul 10, 2009 11:38am Jul 10, 2009 11:38am
I have an Alpari UK live account that is "idle" at the moment, but I use the MT4 for indi's and such. Currently I use Marketiva as broker, but US traders aren't welcome there. The platform isn't great, but all goes pretty smooth. I don't know if I would deposit big there.

[EDIT] I'm not sure they do not accept US traders, you should check it out.

Quoting Mackeymax
wow long and short on the same account????? what overseas broker do you deal with???


mm

p.s. miss those days......
Close your eyes when you feel you are going under.
  • #120,689
  • Jul 10, 2009 11:39am Jul 10, 2009 11:39am
OK, 2:30 on a Friday Wall Street time. Maybe all the big dogs are gone for the weekend. So maybe we get this little bouncy range, say 30-50, which I like to scalp.
"If The Fool persists in his Folly he will become wise." - William Blake
  • #120,690
  • Jul 10, 2009 11:40am Jul 10, 2009 11:40am
Quoting Platypus
When you accept the fact that since the beginning manipulation, inside trading, privileged information, etc existed you stop fighting it and just trade accordly
Right you are.....and the KEY WORD is "accordingly"! And that means don't put too much trust in technicals and fundamentals, and put NO TRUST in the "news". Sometimes trading on pure suspicion is what turns out most successful. Unfortunately, that is a technique hard to teach.
  • #120,691
  • Jul 10, 2009 11:41am Jul 10, 2009 11:41am
Quoting traderathome
Yes, if you can MANIPULATE accordingly. That is why the hedge funds got the NFA to remove that privilege from retailers.
I fatten up this first account a little more & the next one I open will be F--M UK. Hedging, high leverage, woohoo!
"If The Fool persists in his Folly he will become wise." - William Blake
  • #120,692
  • Jul 10, 2009 11:44am Jul 10, 2009 11:44am
I hope anybody that has recently shorted on the manipulated drive up, did not put tight stops on......PA is making like the manipulators may do it again.....

Edit: It is beyond me, how these Thieves of Wall Street get the PA to go up like they do. I understand the workings of Naked Shorting in the stock market, but how do they do it in the FX market? Anyone know? LIke right now, if the PA starts going back up, then how? I cannot imagine right now ANYONE being interested in entering a long trade, not with what has happened today and it being at this time on a Friday. So, with no demand for longs, how do they move the price up....????????? The only thing I can think of is that two entities collude, one places very small long order and the other immediately buys it.....with little volume then the PA would could be moved up as this is repeated over and over VERY QUICKLY thru special FX ordering software....... No real "supply and demand" going on then, just pure manipulation of the price.
  • #120,693
  • Jul 10, 2009 11:47am Jul 10, 2009 11:47am
Donno if it is manipulated. But today before the euro session the move was steady downwards. When the euro session opens volality comes in. And what happens? It goes up for enough pips to take shorts out. After that short upward move, it just continued to go down. Very strange, and then I think by myself, "isn't that manipulated?". Well... I really don't know, I just see those weird PA actions.

Quoting traderathome
Running stops is just a "palatable" way of avoiding speaking the truth....it is STEALING! The manipulated pump yesterday and that of today ran stops/stole short positions (caused liquidation of others' shorts so the manipulators could short). The manipulators did not do this two days in a row for nothing. My take is that there is a plan in the works for the EU to plummet. But that is just my current hypothesis......only time will tell.
Close your eyes when you feel you are going under.
  • #120,694
  • Jul 10, 2009 11:51am Jul 10, 2009 11:51am
I am a swing trader, but scalp with the trend of my swings and i had a low due for Wednesday this week rallying up into Tuesday next week before the big drop off. I am long until 1.3832 is broken then i will sell the muther hard.

If we get above 1.42 next week then its days are numbered.

Just my 2 penneth worth.
  • #120,695
  • Jul 10, 2009 11:53am Jul 10, 2009 11:53am
Quoting VinzZ
Donno if it is manipulated. But today before the euro session the move was steady downwards. When the euro session opens volality comes in. And what happens? It goes up for enough pips to take shorts out. After that short upward move, it just continued to go down. Very strange...
That's called a range and not manipulation.
  • #120,696
  • Jul 10, 2009 11:54am Jul 10, 2009 11:54am
The track up, bumpy.
(oops: had the wrong chart before)
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  • #120,697
  • Jul 10, 2009 11:56am Jul 10, 2009 11:56am
Quoting The Fool
What's the difference between a "real" pip and a "scalping" pip? I don't think that was covered anywhere in babypips.com...
That's just my terminology.

I simply meant to convey that I use a much smaller size when I scalp.

Sorry guys.

m
  • #120,698
  • Jul 10, 2009 11:57am Jul 10, 2009 11:57am
Probably true, and I don't care if I can profit
Ranging for an hour just at euro open. Any reason, why people don't sell at that moment so the price just dives faster in stead of ranging?

Quoting Xaron
That's called a range and not manipulation.
Close your eyes when you feel you are going under.
  • #120,699
  • Jul 10, 2009 11:58am Jul 10, 2009 11:58am
Quoting acumen
That's just my terminology.

I simply meant to convey that I use a much smaller size when I scalp.

Sorry guys.

m
(...guess that means he uses a smaller pole while fishing for minnows....)
  • #120,700
  • Jul 10, 2009 12:00pm Jul 10, 2009 12:00pm
It's a dilemma currently. Both (dollar bulls and bears) have arguments and counter arguments. Actually the arguments of the Dollar bears are stronger, but those arguments are more long term. So we just see ranging and dip buying at the moment. We'll see how the Q2 earnings come in. Currently a more worse scenario is prized in, so this could be a nice up move next week.
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