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  • #117,981
  • Jul 4, 2009 11:50pm Jul 4, 2009 11:50pm
Quoting Jm4x
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This site give for free many informations but they sell things like signals ... The free part is ok. Hope this can help.
Thanks Jm. Your help is highly appreciated.
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  • #117,982
  • Jul 5, 2009 1:45am Jul 5, 2009 1:45am
Quoting Patience
Hey Gator

Here's two articles you might find interesting

http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/ed...2009/0625.html
http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/ed...2009/0701.html

I've been scanning my charts this weekend (as usual) and by the looks of things, I think even I'll be looking for short positions until around 1.3850, 1.3800 or maybe even 38.2 monthly fib ... actually why don't we just bang out Goldman Sachs stop at 1.3720 just for a laugh.
first i dont want to be right. it will be a hardship for many for possibly decades. but i dont see any reason to change my opinion.. i dont follow anyones blog or opinions, just my own. this whole green shoots thing to me is crap to put it softly. its like wiping your ass before crapping. it just dont make sence. i could tell you hundreds of factual reasons why the green shoots is bs. or i could go by the used car salemens opinions and blindly give up my money. the u.s. as a whole just lost 3/4 of it value in the last 8 yrs (more or less) depending on how you compare value. compare this to gold e./u. or oil. charts (whatever you compare it to its a shitload of value lost). the dow was at 13000 on inflated dollars...the true number is more then likely 4500 (#poa)..now unemployment is 9.5 official but more like 16%, (some not looking/serverance tf dont count) people are saving 6/10% of income/working hours cut on the workers -7 average hours. whos wall street gonna sell widgets too? the employment numbers are still falling.

i sold most of my improved realestate after katrina.. i saw a bubble then and one now. just like at 13000 then the used car salesmen were screaming buy buy buy.. as some are still doing now.

this market has ups and downs..we just retraced 50% from the high to the low.. using the abc method where do we go from here?

i hope the gov. does get its tarp back from goldmen/ect. although i heard nothing about it last week..and in a few months when they beg for another loan dont give it.. let a free market come in and fill the void.

we were at 1.6 last year.. we have less to catch the fall this time.. when/if jw's parabolic gets hit look out below.

i want to be wrong.. show me i am on a factual hard number report. not some bean counters bs opinion..show me a report where the opinion giver is not paid to give the favorable opinion.

happy pippen
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #117,983
  • Jul 5, 2009 2:11am Jul 5, 2009 2:11am
heres a chart for scalpers if you want real numbers..on uc current price 1.0857... i started building this one this weekend.. let me know if it works out for you.. i may long it if the price hits my entry on longer term account at 1.0757 blue# plus 2 (spread) sl orange # 1.0645 tp sky
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those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #117,984
  • Jul 5, 2009 3:49am Jul 5, 2009 3:49am
gator not taking a break ?
  • #117,985
  • Jul 5, 2009 5:54am Jul 5, 2009 5:54am
Quoting gatorinla
im betting they are but buying insurance by scalping the uc on pullbacks..short on both positions only... eu long term position (short) but uc to get me even just in case.. im pulling mega pips on uc shorts only after pullbacks.. eventually one will burn me since im not using a sl but the other will make up for it.. in theory putting me eventually at zero (in live trades).. ..but my account is growing....the live trade is not my concern.. my account is.. i was up 17%-2% friday =15% green.

Gator - by UC I assume you mean USDCHF not USDCAD?
  • #117,986
  • Jul 5, 2009 6:08am Jul 5, 2009 6:08am
Quoting Patience
Hey Gator

Here's two articles you might find interesting

http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/ed...2009/0625.html
http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/ed...2009/0701.html

I've been scanning my charts this weekend (as usual) and by the looks of things, I think even I'll be looking for short positions until around 1.3850, 1.3800 or maybe even 38.2 monthly fib ... actually why don't we just bang out Goldman Sachs stop at 1.3720 just for a laugh.

Hi Patience.

Why short I'm long and looking at the h4 - I may even add to it.

Longer term the trend is up.

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  • #117,987
  • Jul 5, 2009 6:12am Jul 5, 2009 6:12am
Quoting gatorinla
i want to be wrong.. show me i am on a factual hard number report. not some bean counters bs opinion..show me a report where the opinion giver is not paid to give the favorable opinion.
But those articles were pretty much saying what you have been talking about. A figure that is more like 20% unemployment, a bear market in equities until at least 2012, plenty of talk of green shoots but it's just "falling leaves", China and India's strengths etc etc. That's why I thought you might like them because it's along the same lines as what you are thinking.
Nothing worth having is easy.
  • #117,988
  • Edited 7:04am Jul 5, 2009 6:40am | Edited 7:04am
Quoting gatorinla
first i dont want to be right. it will be a hardship for many for possibly decades. but i dont see any reason to change my opinion.. i dont follow anyones blog or opinions, just my own. this whole green shoots thing to me is crap to put it softly. its like wiping your ass before crapping. it just dont make sence. i could tell you hundreds of factual reasons why the green shoots is bs. or i could go by the used car salemens opinions and blindly give up my money. the u.s. as a whole just lost 3/4 of it value in the last 8 yrs (more or less) depending...

We are screwed! Economically screwed! Green shoots = confidence trick. Pain...think REAL pain...think mass suicides...think 20-30% unemployment...think riots....think murder...think soup kitchens...we've haven't even seen the beginning of the end as this is only the beginning of the start.
  • #117,989
  • Jul 5, 2009 6:58am Jul 5, 2009 6:58am
Quoting notch
We are screwed! Economically screwed! Green shoots = confidence trick. Pain...think REAL pain...think mass suicides...think 20-30% unemployment...think riots....think murder...think soap kitchens...we've haven't even seen the beginning of the end as this is only the beginning of the start.
Cor, you must be a delight to be around! I know it's not a laughing matter but I'm not quite ready to slit my wrists just yet ....
Nothing worth having is easy.
  • #117,990
  • Jul 5, 2009 7:01am Jul 5, 2009 7:01am
Quoting notch
We are screwed! Economically screwed! Green shoots = confidence trick. Pain...think REAL pain...think mass suicides...think 20-30% unemployment...think riots....think murder...think soap kitchens...we've haven't even seen the beginning of the end as this is only the beginning of the start.

Yes and yet I've got a american trading mate kinda who weekly logs on and says " Recession is over, has your business picked up yet " yeah cause recessions just stop from 1 week to the next.

A Few years of super inflation to wipe out the global debt is whats required and turn all of those rich people into normal people the downside.
Nothing to it, but to do it!!! Stick to the plan FOOL!!!!
  • #117,991
  • Jul 5, 2009 7:05am Jul 5, 2009 7:05am
Quoting Patience
Cor, you must be a delight to be around! I know it's not a laughing matter but I'm not quite ready to slit my wrists just yet ....

Well..the consistent traders will be okay!!! So it ain't all bad.

think...bankkrupt major economies!
  • #117,992
  • Jul 5, 2009 7:23am Jul 5, 2009 7:23am
do u think Forex will end?
  • #117,993
  • Jul 5, 2009 8:15am Jul 5, 2009 8:15am
Quoting stewrigh
Gator - by UC I assume you mean USDCHF not USDCAD?
yes usd/chf
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #117,994
  • Jul 5, 2009 8:21am Jul 5, 2009 8:21am
Quoting Alihuzaifa
do u think Forex will end?
No, just the currencies will change. That's why I've been slowly converting all my dollars to furs and wampum (shhhhh... don't tell anyone...) I'll be RICH!!!! MWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
  • #117,995
  • Jul 5, 2009 8:34am Jul 5, 2009 8:34am
Quoting Alihuzaifa
do u think Forex will end?
Not understand Ali ,"No Hedge....No Stoploss, No Limit Orders.FIFO, at this rate it'll be no MARKET ORDERS" actually any such new US rules in action yet ?

fontu
Not understand?better not follow my analyses!doubt clearer first, risks ++
  • #117,996
  • Jul 5, 2009 8:46am Jul 5, 2009 8:46am
Quoting trading801
gator not taking a break ?
yes i did.. this is my hobby.. a challenge. this is a chess match.. goldmen and a few others will more then likely knock the cover off the ball with earning reports. ill give up a rook and knight to win the game..there will be ups and downs this week and next. remember im short eu and scalping usd/chf short also on pullbacks.....this is a form of m/m... m/m will take care of r/r in one account.
the usd/chf chart will be used also to scalp in the pullbacks...i short it only on pullbacks and only to protect my eu trade as insurance...in antisipation of the ups and downs. when the bigger move starts i will stop shorting uc or if wrong continue..even if we go to normal summer pattern that ok also. remember i dont care about a red trade as long as acount is growing..in theory one is green when one is red..one trade is longer term then the other..this is how i will trade if you dont grasp it, you should not trade it... its seldom a straight line..its forex.. nothing is a sure thing..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #117,997
  • Edited 9:28am Jul 5, 2009 8:52am | Edited 9:28am
Quoting Patience
But those articles were pretty much saying what you have been talking about. A figure that is more like 20% unemployment, a bear market in equities until at least 2012, plenty of talk of green shoots but it's just "falling leaves", China and India's strengths etc etc. That's why I thought you might like them because it's along the same lines as what you are thinking.
i like to be right its a guy thing. but the articles suck cause i want to be wrong..them agreeing sucks..why did they not say if before millions of sheep got sucked in.. me being right is not a good thing..id rather be wrong..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #117,998
  • Jul 5, 2009 9:19am Jul 5, 2009 9:19am
Quoting F.x.
No, just the currencies will change. That's why I've been slowly converting all my dollars to furs and wampum (shhhhh... don't tell anyone...) I'll be RICH!!!! MWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
MWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
  • #117,999
  • Jul 5, 2009 9:21am Jul 5, 2009 9:21am
Quoting fontu
not understand ali ,"no hedge....no stoploss, no limit orders.fifo, at this rate it'll be no market orders" actually any such new us rules in action yet ?

Fontu
why the hell regulatory bodies doing all this?
  • #118,000
  • Jul 5, 2009 9:25am Jul 5, 2009 9:25am
Quoting gatorinla
yes i did.. this is my hobby.. a challenge. this is a chess match.. goldmen and a few others will more then likely knock the cover off the ball with earning reports. ill give up a rook and knight to win the game..there will be ups and downs this week and next. remember im short eu and scalping usd/chf short also on pullbacks.....this is a form of m/m... m/m will take care of r/r in one account.
the usd/chf chart will be used also to scalp in the pullbacks...i short it only on pullbacks and only to protect my eu trade as insurance...in antisipation...
example im in the eu short.. longer term..many times on a longer trade your in the green with a huge sl... then your green trade reverses a few hundred pips. so your exit and the trend you picked originally resumes giving you a bad trade. i will counter trend trade the opposite pair to capture this.. and if im wrong on the longer trade my bottom line will still be healthy.. if im right i can trade almost risk free to my bottom line.. ok lets resume example... im short eu in the green and scalping on pullbacks only usd/chf using the posted charts on both pairs.. i can see most of the pull back areas ahead of time.. i know if both pairs hit one around the same time both should pull back.. creating a entry for me with a limited sl compared to reward..if im wrong/or fall asleep one cancels out the other in theory.. example if my longerterm short eu trade is + 100 pips and i enter the uc short.. my be point is 0-spread on uc and +100 on eu...to be i have to get to this point..anything above is money in my acount..all i care about is the bottom line..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
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