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  • #106,301
  • Jun 4, 2009 4:59pm Jun 4, 2009 4:59pm
Quoting Duce
They have 1 billion + people, and they are communist. They can consume everything they make.
Seriously, book a ticket and visit China just to see how communist they are.

Their government is saying "you don't have any decision making authority" while the U.S. government is saying the opposite. But really, how much decision making authority Joe Bag O'Donuts really have in the U.S.A.? At least the Chinese are being up front about it.

Try to open a factory in the U.S. You'll need approval from the city, the county, the state and the federal government. There will be EPA studies before you can break the ground to build the place. You'll need to prove to OSHA that the place will be safe. Then you have to keep up with a gazillion rules.

Try to do the same in China and see how much quicker it really is.
Not all sins are created equal
  • #106,302
  • Jun 4, 2009 4:59pm Jun 4, 2009 4:59pm
Quoting traderathome
Not just mail order brides, but it may come to pass that American families will have to pay exhorbinate prices to smuggle their working young overseas to China, to work in American labor camps there....helping China build its infrastructure.
whats the ratio 20-1 or something like that.. all those women should be rich.. and the guys on the high pitch voice side.. is same sex marriage legal in china? *LMAO*
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #106,303
  • Jun 4, 2009 4:59pm Jun 4, 2009 4:59pm
Quoting gatorinla
another point.. we saved the chinese about 65 years ago.. but make no mistake about it.. we will not be enslaved with a heartbeat..you might phuck with us in others parts of the world.. but if someone intends to do it here they will be enlightened quickly.
Yep, "Better Dead than Red!" And with the way things are deteriorating in the US now, when the time comes and most everything else is gone anyway, what else will there be to lose? Just give me a gun and let me shoot out the last minutes of my life........may be the concensus. Fight, not flight.
  • #106,304
  • Jun 4, 2009 5:02pm Jun 4, 2009 5:02pm
Quoting Duce
They have 1 billion + people, and they are communist. They can consume everything they make.
China? Communist??? You really are late on the news aren't you? Hint: would a communist country have Stock Exchange?

They only pretend to be communist because they have so many ppl so it's good excuse for strong state control, but economy wise they are migrating to capitalism. [EDIT] Only difference to any other ex communist country is that they don't do it with a BANG. Get it?
  • #106,305
  • Jun 4, 2009 5:05pm Jun 4, 2009 5:05pm
Don't worry, they won't enslave anyone. As the landlord of many (where do you think Fannie and Freddie's money really comes from?), they could have done that a long time ago.
Not all sins are created equal
  • #106,306
  • Jun 4, 2009 5:07pm Jun 4, 2009 5:07pm
Quoting TheFisherman
China? Communist??? You really are late on the news aren't you? Hint: would a communist country have Stock Exchange?

They only pretend to be communist because they have so many ppl so it's good excuse for strong state control, but economy wise they are migrating to capitalism. [EDIT] Only difference to any other ex communist country is that they don't do it with a BANG. Get it?
I don't rightly know if they are migrating to capitalism, or if they are eager participants now so they will know how to throw a monkey wrench into the works later, when the time comes. They dominate in manpower, in currency manipulation, in political manipulation.....and look inside your computer. Where do you see the main circuit board, video card, etc. is made? When the time comes, they will dominate in technology, too.
  • #106,307
  • Jun 4, 2009 5:08pm Jun 4, 2009 5:08pm
Quoting TheFisherman
China? Communist??? You really are late on the news aren't you? Hint: would a communist country have Stock Exchange?

They only pretend to be communist because they have so many ppl so it's good excuse for strong state control, but economy wise they are migrating to capitalism. [EDIT] Only difference to any other ex communist country is that they don't do it with a BANG. Get it?
It serves a purpose to call yourself "communist" in this case. "How can we do this, we're communists!"

It's a distracting label that serves them well.
Not all sins are created equal
  • #106,308
  • Jun 4, 2009 5:10pm Jun 4, 2009 5:10pm
Quoting traderathome
Yep, "Better Dead than Red!" And with the way things are deteriorating in the US now, when the time comes and most everything else is gone anyway, what else will there be to lose? Just give me a gun and let me shoot out the last minutes of my life........may be the concensus. Fight, not flight.
agreed...hey then we could cancel the t bill debt *L* it would be cheaper.. hell what can they do? we can keep raw materials away from them... we rule the skys and take out all the factories and infustructure.. its a long swim to u.s. but i did hear if they all stump their feet at the same time in rhythm the could sink us...in a huge tidal wave..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #106,309
  • Jun 4, 2009 5:12pm Jun 4, 2009 5:12pm
Quoting TheFisherman
China? Communist??? You really are late on the news aren't you? Hint: would a communist country have Stock Exchange?

They only pretend to be communist because they have so many ppl so it's good excuse for strong state control, but economy wise they are migrating to capitalism. [EDIT] Only difference to any other ex communist country is that they don't do it with a BANG. Get it?
*LMAO* you cant own land in china..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #106,310
  • Jun 4, 2009 5:15pm Jun 4, 2009 5:15pm
Quoting Jay Walker
Seriously, book a ticket and visit China just to see how communist they are.

Their government is saying "you don't have any decision making authority" while the U.S. government is saying the opposite. But really, how much decision making authority Joe Bag O'Donuts really have in the U.S.A.? At least the Chinese are being up front about it.

Try to open a factory in the U.S. You'll need approval from the city, the county, the state and the federal government. There will be EPA studies before you can break the ground to build the place. You'll...
Now you're making my argument.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
  • #106,311
  • Jun 4, 2009 5:16pm Jun 4, 2009 5:16pm
damn the kong fu guy is dead. david caradien... Grasshopper..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #106,312
  • Jun 4, 2009 5:17pm Jun 4, 2009 5:17pm
Quoting gatorinla
*LMAO* you cant own land in china..
Not true anymore.

You can now.
Not all sins are created equal
  • #106,313
  • Jun 4, 2009 5:18pm Jun 4, 2009 5:18pm
Quoting gatorinla
*LMAO* you cant own land in china..
But you can own stocks. Migration from communism is a long route. Land would probably the last thing it would get from under the control of the state. I'm not saying it's a fully capitalist state, it's far from that, but it's not entirely communist either. Besides, USA is the only country in the world where if you own the land you own the resources below (which lead to the "Texas 2 people oil companies" - the owner and the blonde secretary ).
  • #106,314
  • Jun 4, 2009 5:19pm Jun 4, 2009 5:19pm
Quoting Jay Walker
Not true anymore.

You can now.
Oh, well. Wasn't aware of that. How much is 1000sqm in the center of Beijing priced at?
  • #106,315
  • Jun 4, 2009 5:20pm Jun 4, 2009 5:20pm
Quoting Jay Walker
Not true anymore.

You can now.
as of today you coundnt according to the largest realestate company in china.. the gov. owns all land.. all you can do is lease the land for 75 years.. you can own the building but the land under it is owend by the gov.
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #106,316
  • Jun 4, 2009 5:22pm Jun 4, 2009 5:22pm
Quoting TheFisherman
Oh, well. Wasn't aware of that. How much is 1000sqm in the center of Beijing priced at?
You'll need to talk to a Realtor about that.
Not all sins are created equal
  • #106,317
  • Jun 4, 2009 5:22pm Jun 4, 2009 5:22pm
Quoting TheFisherman
But you can own stocks. Migration from communism is a long route. Land would probably the last thing it would get from under the control of the state. I'm not saying it's a fully capitalist state, it's far from that, but it's not entirely communist either. Besides, USA is the only country in the world where if you own the land you own the resources below (which lead to the "Texas 2 people oil companies" - the owner and the blonde secretary ).
It is not universal, in the US, that you own the mineral rights to your land. The oil tycoons started plugging that hole decades ago. Even back in the 1950's land purchased in and around Houston, Tx no longer included the mineral rights.
  • #106,318
  • Jun 4, 2009 5:23pm Jun 4, 2009 5:23pm
Quoting gatorinla
as of today you coundnt according to the largest realestate company in china.. the gov. owns all land.. all you can do is lease the land for 75 years.. you can own the building but the land under it is owend by the gov.
Can the lease be transfered at the lease owner price? If yes, what's the problem? Nobody buys land to hold f/ 75 years if investment wise. If for your own purpose, you'd probably be dead in 75 year so what the hell.
  • #106,319
  • Jun 4, 2009 5:23pm Jun 4, 2009 5:23pm
The word "they" sure is getting thrown a'rd pretty loosely here...

I keep having to remind myself you just CAN'T be talking about my very good Chinese, Japanese, South Korean, Mongolian, Thai, Kiwi, Zimbabwean, Malaysian, Canadian, Puerto Rican, Mexican, Siberian, Siberian Yupik, Yupik, Inuit, Athabascan, Comanche, Apache, Sioux, Creek, Choctaw, and Algonquin friends, not counting a couple old fat white people I know here in the lower 48.

And lest I forget, those of you I'm privileged to call friends even if only in a "virtual" sense from here in this Big Glue pot called FF...

Nahhh... can't be.
FUBAR...
  • #106,320
  • Jun 4, 2009 5:24pm Jun 4, 2009 5:24pm
Quoting TheFisherman
But you can own stocks. Migration from communism is a long route. Land would probably the last thing it would get from under the control of the state. I'm not saying it's a fully capitalist state, it's far from that, but it's not entirely communist either. Besides, USA is the only country in the world where if you own the land you own the resources below (which lead to the "Texas 2 people oil companies" - the owner and the blonde secretary ).
im not from texas and my secretary is has redish blonde hair.. big and ugly... the way i like em.. i dont mix my genes with my money..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
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