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  • #91,481
  • Apr 30, 2009 3:59pm Apr 30, 2009 3:59pm
Quoting Bigfx
I think you have a big bone to pick with the government...I can safely say I didn't elect any of those nitwits.

I am more concerned with the NFA in the US forcing me to a foreign broker with there rules.
I have no bone to pick with the government whatsoever. I only have issue with wildly inaccurate claims being made on here that have no truth to them, that all.
  • #91,482
  • Apr 30, 2009 4:01pm Apr 30, 2009 4:01pm
Quoting gammase1
I have no bone to pick with the government whatsoever. I only have issue with wildly inaccurate claims being made on here that have no truth to them, that all.
oh we can chalk up your entire statement to that category, you probably also believe ford took money as well.
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  • #91,483
  • Apr 30, 2009 4:03pm Apr 30, 2009 4:03pm
Quoting Bigfx
oh we can chalk up your entire statement to that category, you probably also believe ford took money as well.
My statement re Wells Fargo is 100% accurate. I am done arguing with you. My point has been made and I don't want to take up undue space on this thread.
  • #91,484
  • Apr 30, 2009 4:05pm Apr 30, 2009 4:05pm
Quoting Bigfx
You will love this:

For Those of You Who Supported The NFA On The New NO-HEDGING Rule...You Otta LOVE This Little Extra.... Now they are taking away STOPS and LIMITS Also...

I just learned today that the NFA is also imposing additional changes as part of their new rule on hedging that we did not previously know about. The early information that I have about this new part of the rule is going to be very disruptive to trading through any US entity regulated by the NFA.

The basic information that I have at this point is that ALL trades will be...
I dont see the problem? Thats exactly how a proper ECn broker operates anyway! And theres no point hedging in the same pair unless scalping the opposite direction, you can easily have 2 accounts for that purpose so not much of an issue.
  • #91,485
  • Apr 30, 2009 4:08pm Apr 30, 2009 4:08pm
Quoting gammase1
My statement re Wells Fargo is 100% accurate. I am done arguing with you. My point has been made and I don't want to take up undue space on this thread.
Your claim is not only false it's offensive and don't hide like a child now. You have no evidence other than broad claims related to TARP financing which you no nothing about. All US financial institutions were required to relinquish a % of there company to the US government which cannot be paid back. I was never bragging it was a joyful conversation then trolls like you want to attack me; I can present evidence and you just believe what you watched on the communist news network (CNN). If you don't like them fine don't you have the right for now as an American to not invest in that company so exercise it however the market in general is reacting favorably to the company because it has made the right decisions all along.
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  • #91,486
  • Apr 30, 2009 4:10pm Apr 30, 2009 4:10pm
Quoting PipLand
I dont see the problem? Thats exactly how a proper ECn broker operates anyway! And theres no point hedging in the same pair unless scalping the opposite direction, you can easily have 2 accounts for that purpose so not much of an issue.
issue is looks like multi-positions same pair same direction will act as one so if you enter .1 at 1.3 and .1 and 1.35 you will not be allowed to take profit could have a big impact on daily trading, defiantly something to watch.
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  • #91,487
  • Apr 30, 2009 4:15pm Apr 30, 2009 4:15pm
Quoting Bigfx
issue is looks like multi-positions same pair same direction will act as one so if you enter .1 at 1.3 and .1 and 1.35 you will not be allowed to take profit could have a big impact on daily trading, defiantly something to watch.
Sorry I really can not see what the difference is between individual positions and agreggated ones?? if you have 2 of the same positions, one in profit one not, it doesnt matter what one you close (aprt from the money showing in your account) you still will have a running loss on the other position which will balance out when you have to close it!
  • #91,488
  • Apr 30, 2009 4:16pm Apr 30, 2009 4:16pm
Quoting Bigfx
You will love this:

For Those of You Who Supported The NFA On The New NO-HEDGING Rule... [snip]....
Is there somewhere I read about the whole NFA No-Hedging rule please?

thanks :-)
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  • #91,489
  • Apr 30, 2009 4:19pm Apr 30, 2009 4:19pm
Quoting PipLand
Sorry I really can not see what the difference is between individual positions and agreggated ones?? if you have 2 of the same positions, one in profit one not, it doesnt matter what one you close (aprt from the money showing in your account) you still will have a running loss on the other position which will balance out when you have to close it!
That's taking into account all position sizes are equal. I scale in sometimes light to gauge the market so my first. Also no stops or limits so you would have to essentially open a new order to close. If you notice GFT to close out an order you have to open a new one.
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  • #91,490
  • Apr 30, 2009 4:20pm Apr 30, 2009 4:20pm
Quoting realjumper
Is there somewhere I read about the whole NFA No-Hedging rule please?

thanks :-)
Try this one - http://www.nfa.futures.org/news/PDF/...Adj_112408.pdf
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  • #91,491
  • Apr 30, 2009 4:21pm Apr 30, 2009 4:21pm
Quoting PipLand
Sorry I really can not see what the difference is between individual positions and agreggated ones?? if you have 2 of the same positions, one in profit one not, it doesnt matter what one you close (aprt from the money showing in your account) you still will have a running loss on the other position which will balance out when you have to close it!

Different strokes for different folks. Who really cares why someone wants to do something? All that matters is, despite their wishes, they may not be allowed to do it. That's all I need to know to know it's pretty fuked up.

So we already have this "no hedging" policy... how likely are these other policies to pass, and when? I'm specifically interested in the leverage laws people are talking about...

If these do pass.. what are you guys going to do? Switch to international brokers? If so... who?
  • #91,492
  • Apr 30, 2009 4:21pm Apr 30, 2009 4:21pm
Quoting realjumper
Is there somewhere I read about the whole NFA No-Hedging rule please?

thanks :-)
or this http://www.nfa.futures.org/news/news...ArticleID=2273
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  • #91,493
  • Apr 30, 2009 4:21pm Apr 30, 2009 4:21pm
Quoting ak4x
Easy to do and happens more often than we know...


BTW... Watch where you sit.
well i did do the titanic rant.. now it have to find it and reread
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #91,494
  • Apr 30, 2009 4:22pm Apr 30, 2009 4:22pm
Quoting F.x.
Different strokes for different folks. Who really cares why someone wants to do something? All that matters is, despite their wishes, they may not be allowed to do it. That's all I need to know to know it's pretty fuked up.

So we already have this "no hedging" policy... how likely are these other policies to pass, and when? I'm specifically interested in the leverage laws people are talking about...

If these do pass.. what are you guys going to do? Switch to international brokers? If so... who?
I brought up the leverage laws F.X. you are correct go international right now fxcm is moving people to the U.K it has more protection for your money but no fixed spreads either way we are fubard
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  • #91,495
  • Apr 30, 2009 4:24pm Apr 30, 2009 4:24pm
Quoting Bigfx
That's taking into account all position sizes are equal. I scale in sometimes light to gauge the market so my first. Also no stops or limits so you would have to essentially open a new order to close. If you notice GFT to close out an order you have to open a new one.
Yep still cant see the problem, and thats still how real ECN brokers work. Your obviously loading up for an eventual target, if that target is not reached or the trade turns then you would exit completely anyway. If you want to scalp just get another account, trust me you'll get used to it in no time at all
  • #91,496
  • Apr 30, 2009 4:24pm Apr 30, 2009 4:24pm
Quoting SpecialEd
Try this one - http://www.nfa.futures.org/news/PDF/...Adj_112408.pdf
Great...

Thank you
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  • #91,497
  • Apr 30, 2009 4:28pm Apr 30, 2009 4:28pm
Quoting ak4x
Easy to do and happens more often than we know...
this one 23 hrs ago

BTW... Watch where you sit.
23 hrs before
and they played on"
personally i should of bought just now when it hit a fib at 3244 it went slightly lower then it turned around..i would not short yet. there are other things going on affecting this pair not on any eu chart. if i was gonna short it would be at trendline 3337 (its not a slam dunk) but you can limit risk.. there are others above this one. 3478 and 3565 areas..but im not gonna short until i c e-index and us index show eu good for a short. we are still in a lower trend pattern and its the trend until broken.. but this upper trend line started last summer is around 3565 now..i think equitys are overbought. but what i think dont matter..i do recall when we hit all time highs 1.5 years ago sediment was simuliar to todays listening to cnbc's party mood.. reminds me of the movie "and they played on. im short biased especialy with todays news.. but the charts are calling me a liar.. ej is also north today it broke a trend so maybe this thing has legs..so i will trade what i see.. the information is contradicting because it is contradicting..if you think this is confusing try living in my head..


oh the movie is about a big ship hitting an iceburg when they had iceburg warnings. they didnt have enough lifeboats. oh and the ship was sailing at top speed.. they didnt even have binocolars is crows nest.(before rader). and unsinkable
i think it was titanic. i will shut up now... good pippin..
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  • #91,498
  • Apr 30, 2009 4:37pm Apr 30, 2009 4:37pm
Daily is pointing lower if it stays like this, not closed yet for me
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  • #91,499
  • Apr 30, 2009 4:41pm Apr 30, 2009 4:41pm
Well I'm taking a break my eyes are buggin out .Good luck to all.May the force and pips be with you!
  • #91,500
  • Apr 30, 2009 4:41pm Apr 30, 2009 4:41pm
Quoting PipLand
Daily is pointing lower if it stays like this, not closed yet for me
how many pips do you target?
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