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  • #9,101
  • Apr 21, 2009 11:53am Apr 21, 2009 11:53am
Quoting Shilva
I am still holding the short also ......I am seeing several attempts to break 4700 and a failure.

All the s. stoches are in sync in overpriced except the 4h.

Priced dropped back down and bounced off the tl and 62ema after a break to satisfy that trade!

Hope it is not wishful thinking but I think 4700 may hold. If not then I will have to take the loss also.
I could be wrong.... but for me, we are back inside the h4 channel with plenty power in the oscillators... I am flat atm
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  • #9,102
  • Apr 21, 2009 11:54am Apr 21, 2009 11:54am
Quoting Infinity
and one on the h4 too... that one got me as well for a small loss.
Yeah, the h4 is what screwed me bro! I'm still underwater, so I guess I'm not screwed until the position is closed. But, sometimes, the fundamentalists control the market and move it where they FEEL it should be. Fuck the feelings, just trade the damn thing.
Just digging in the trenches like everyone else!
  • #9,103
  • Apr 21, 2009 11:55am Apr 21, 2009 11:55am
A close @ 4695-97 would be really nice right now....
  • #9,104
  • Apr 21, 2009 11:59am Apr 21, 2009 11:59am
looking good just now
  • #9,105
  • Apr 21, 2009 11:59am Apr 21, 2009 11:59am
Quoting eohater
Yeah, the h4 is what screwed me bro! I'm still underwater, so I guess I'm not screwed until the position is closed. But, sometimes, the fundamentalists control the market and move it where they FEEL it should be. Fuck the feelings, just trade the damn thing.
I hear ya bro! I had stop a few pips above the pin so it was a small loss for me... Seems you are going to get that hanging man..
Patience + Discipline - Greed = Success
  • #9,106
  • Apr 21, 2009 12:00pm Apr 21, 2009 12:00pm
Quoting Infinity
I could be wrong.... but for me, we are back inside the h4 channel with plenty power in the oscillators... I am flat atm
Yes, I see it too.

Infinity, I am still trying to understand that long form 62ma.
Sorry for persistency.
I am trying to recreate the dynamics of that shot.
It went up to 4710, then turned around and went south.
When did you pull the triger? When it touched 62ma, or when it bounce off it up? How much space did you gave her to jump before you entered?
Thanks man.
  • #9,107
  • Apr 21, 2009 12:00pm Apr 21, 2009 12:00pm
i still have hope after that close
  • #9,108
  • Apr 21, 2009 12:02pm Apr 21, 2009 12:02pm
Quoting Infinity
I hear ya bro! I had stop a few pips above the pin so it was a small loss for me... Seems you are going to get that hanging man..
We got it, now let's get the fundamental traders out and technical traders back.
Just digging in the trenches like everyone else!
  • #9,109
  • Apr 21, 2009 12:03pm Apr 21, 2009 12:03pm
Quoting Komissar
Yes, I see it too.

Infinity, I am still trying to understand that long form 62ma.
Sorry for persistency.
I am trying to recreate the dynamics of that shot.
It went up to 4710, then turned around and went south.
When did you pull the triger? When it touched 62ma, or when it bounce off it up? How much space did you gave her to jump before you entered?
Thanks man.
Go look at your 15m chart and you'll see how it pulled back down into the 10ema.
Just digging in the trenches like everyone else!
  • #9,110
  • Apr 21, 2009 12:03pm Apr 21, 2009 12:03pm
Quoting Komissar
Yes, I see it too.

Infinity, I am still trying to understand that long form 62ma.
Sorry for persistency.
I am trying to recreate the dynamics of that shot.
It went up to 4710, then turned around and went south.
When did you pull the triger? When it touched 62ma, or when it bounce off it up? How much space did you gave her to jump before you entered?
Thanks man.
I entered on the touch... my stop would have been below the 50sma... My price was 56.. Remember..... the main reason why I took the trade was the close well above the 62ema... I was short before, my stop was hit then I waited for price to come back to the ma then took the long...
Patience + Discipline - Greed = Success
  • #9,111
  • Apr 21, 2009 12:04pm Apr 21, 2009 12:04pm
Quoting rt4x
i still have hope after that close
"I've got High Hopes, I've got High Hopes"

I'm with you there!
Just digging in the trenches like everyone else!
  • #9,112
  • Apr 21, 2009 12:05pm Apr 21, 2009 12:05pm
Quoting eohater
We got it, now let's get the fundamental traders out and technical traders back.
Yeah its looking much better now, 1hr hangman, 15min pin, EU has 15min pin too, equities easying up a little, oil has a pin too, and USD crosses looking bullish. Im feeling much better
  • #9,113
  • Apr 21, 2009 12:05pm Apr 21, 2009 12:05pm
Quoting eohater
Go look at your 15m chart and you'll see how it pulled back down into the 10ema.
Exactly.. they were both lined up perfectly...
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  • #9,114
  • Apr 21, 2009 12:06pm Apr 21, 2009 12:06pm
Quoting eohater
We got it, now let's get the fundamental traders out and technical traders back.
AND YOU KNOW THIS MAN......

Short from 4692.

HOLLA
  • #9,115
  • Apr 21, 2009 12:07pm Apr 21, 2009 12:07pm
Quoting PipLand
Yeah its looking much better now, 1hr hangman, 15min pin, EU has 15min pin too, equities easying up a little, oil has a pin too, and USD crosses looking bullish. Im feeling much better
that's an impressive summary pip
  • #9,116
  • Apr 21, 2009 12:08pm Apr 21, 2009 12:08pm
in a case like this where we're above the 62ema and price has already tested it once and we now have a hangman, woudl anyone try another long at the 62ema if we go down to touch it?
  • #9,117
  • Apr 21, 2009 12:08pm Apr 21, 2009 12:08pm
Quoting Infinity
I entered on the touch... my stop would have been below the 50sma... My price was 56.. Remember..... the main reason why I took the trade was the close well above the 62ema... I was short before, my stop was hit then I waited for price to come back to the ma then took the long...
EO, 15M I would consider as confirmation.
Infinity, That long shot - it was nice. I'll keep it in mind.
Thanks, guys.
  • #9,118
  • Apr 21, 2009 12:09pm Apr 21, 2009 12:09pm
Quoting ezodisy
in a case like this where we're above the 62ema and price has already tested it once and we now have a hangman, woudl anyone try another long at the 62ema if we go down to touch it?
I wouldn't rush into it since it has been tested once already...
Patience + Discipline - Greed = Success
  • #9,119
  • Apr 21, 2009 12:11pm Apr 21, 2009 12:11pm
Quoting ezodisy
that's an impressive summary pip
Cheers, lets hope it plays out !
  • #9,120
  • Apr 21, 2009 12:13pm Apr 21, 2009 12:13pm
Honestly guys, I don't like shorts atm..
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