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  • #87,401
  • Apr 20, 2009 9:30am Apr 20, 2009 9:30am
Quoting emtee
Interesting
Everyone seems to be talking short.
Maybe going long might not be a bad idea
regards
emtee
It will eventually.

But "eventually" is not "now"
Not all sins are created equal
  • #87,402
  • Apr 20, 2009 9:31am Apr 20, 2009 9:31am
Quoting jacko
Hi Billye

Citi's profits are a sham. They announced a $1.6B profit for Jan-March 2009, but the figures include a $2.4B boost from a little known accounting adjustment under Financial Accounting Standards Board 's rule 159 which governs how banks value their debt.
Under this standard , when debt declines in value, the banks must account for it as though they had bought it back at market rates, and retiring it at par.This has the strange effect of enhancing earnings at banks whose debt is declining in value.

So they announced $1.6B profit but...
nothing like subsidised banking..to increase false profit..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #87,403
  • Apr 20, 2009 9:35am Apr 20, 2009 9:35am
DAMN!!!!!!!!!! arnold (king of californyy) just praised jimmy carter for his effort to get off foreign oil... and took a shot at reagen for scrapping it...
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #87,404
  • Apr 20, 2009 9:37am Apr 20, 2009 9:37am
Quoting gatorinla
DAMN!!!!!!!!!! arnold just praised jimmy carter for his effort to get off foreign oil... and took a shot at reagen for scrapping it...
It's Governator 2.

G2, revenge of the roid rage. Coming soon to a theater near you.
Not all sins are created equal
  • #87,405
  • Apr 20, 2009 9:39am Apr 20, 2009 9:39am
Quoting Jay Walker
It's Governator 2.

G2, revenge of the roid rage. Coming soon to a theater near you.
it was a real shot... no holes bared..who would of thunk it!!!
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #87,406
  • Apr 20, 2009 9:40am Apr 20, 2009 9:40am
About a week or two ago NPR's Planet Money did a couple of podcasts on the 159 rule and its implications. I don't have a link, but it's worth the listen if you can find it.
  • #87,407
  • Apr 20, 2009 9:44am Apr 20, 2009 9:44am
Quoting gatorinla

nothing like subsidised banking..to increase false profit..
The whole isue of the recent changes to allow banks to mark-to market (mark the value of the debts to fantasy levels) shows that the Banks have once again done a number on the Govt.
We will all see fantasy profits at all banks as they mark the value of their debts to ridiculous numbers. Its a crock !!

.
Jacko
  • #87,408
  • Apr 20, 2009 9:44am Apr 20, 2009 9:44am
Quoting gatorinla
it was a real shot... no holes bared..who would of thunk it!!!
Hmmm...

His wife and all her family?
Not all sins are created equal
  • #87,409
  • Apr 20, 2009 9:44am Apr 20, 2009 9:44am
Just listen to Bloomberg TV, "the euro is sliding bcs of the disagreement on the ECB board about the ratesand QE", so if they make up their mind that would mean the euro would skyrocket ?

that is just too naive for my taste.
  • #87,410
  • Apr 20, 2009 9:46am Apr 20, 2009 9:46am
Quoting gatorinla
it was a real shot... no holes bared..who would of thunk it!!!
i guess Rush is gonna put a bulls eye on Arney now... i think arney may hit back... thats is unlesss...........arney doesnt plan on being senator... then its on... i want a ticket!!!! this could be fun!!!! Terminator Vs. Spanky!!!!! a cage match!!!
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #87,411
  • Edited 10:06am Apr 20, 2009 9:54am | Edited 10:06am
Quoting jacko
The whole isue of the recent changes to allow banks to mark-to market (mark the value of the debts to fantasy levels) shows that the Banks have once again done a number on the Govt.
We will all see fantasy profits at all banks as they mark the value of their debts to ridiculous numbers. Its a crock !!

.
Jacko
preaching to the choir... it was a ponzi sheme started here.. in 2004.. this little metting allowed them to leverage infinate..http://www.sec.gov/news/openmeetings/agenda042804.htm

watch the oil timeline after... when all the oil storage tanks were full and all the tankers.+ 4 buck a gallon. the price dropped... then goldmen ect. got a margin call.. in few weeks the money dried up.. then we got the pres/paulson (former c.e.o of goldmen) saying if you dont give me 700 billion its over... follow the money!!! so we bail out goldmen and a insurance company who in turn gave goldmen 13 billion dollars.. the king has no clothes..youve been had.. get out the pitchforks! oh and mean while we put in a little tax break for new hummers..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #87,412
  • Apr 20, 2009 9:57am Apr 20, 2009 9:57am
Quoting gatorinla
i guess Rush is gonna put a bulls eye on Arney now... i think arney may hit back... thats is unlesss...........arney doesnt plan on being senator... then its on... i want a ticket!!!! this could be fun!!!! Terminator Vs. Spanky!!!!! a cage match!!!
Rush Limbaugh?
"I know how hard it is for you to put food on your family." George W. Bush
  • #87,413
  • Apr 20, 2009 9:57am Apr 20, 2009 9:57am
Bearrish Flag at M15 Charts.. lets do some more shorts very soon...
  • #87,414
  • Apr 20, 2009 9:58am Apr 20, 2009 9:58am
Quoting arthurb
Just listen to Bloomberg TV, "the euro is sliding bcs of the disagreement on the ECB board about the ratesand QE", so if they make up their mind that would mean the euro would skyrocket ?

that is just too naive for my taste.
Agreed...bloomberg is still a good tool though for measuring political jargon and all the wild speculation that moves pa. What we see on the charts is only a reaction to the bs they spoonfeed us (they being the powers that be....who knows who that is exactly). In other words if bloombergtv says it....it is probably based on what "market makers" are thinking...(idiots right). In any case it is better to know this is their mentality (a family feud in the european leadership) then not to just so we can join the ride in whatever direction they are speculating...using technicals of course.
Different opinions highly valued, ignorant to slander.
  • #87,415
  • Apr 20, 2009 9:59am Apr 20, 2009 9:59am
Quoting ak4x


what would a REAL push to the downside look like... ?? Just wondering.
you can add to the weekly chart 34 lwma
  • #87,416
  • Apr 20, 2009 9:59am Apr 20, 2009 9:59am
Quoting arthurb
Just listen to Bloomberg TV, "the euro is sliding bcs of the disagreement on the ECB board about the ratesand QE", so if they make up their mind that would mean the euro would skyrocket ?

that is just too naive for my taste.
ok but why is there disagreement.. they could make up their mind for dollar strength also.. evidently someone in the aurgument want a weaker euro.. and for e-zones own good they better..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #87,417
  • Apr 20, 2009 10:00am Apr 20, 2009 10:00am
OT: stocks are tanking !!! Arrghhh
  • #87,418
  • Apr 20, 2009 10:02am Apr 20, 2009 10:02am
Quoting MarcoW
Rush Limbaugh?
yea..
those who can, do. those who cant, talk about those who can
  • #87,419
  • Apr 20, 2009 10:03am Apr 20, 2009 10:03am
Quoting arthurb
Just listen to Bloomberg TV, "the euro is sliding bcs of the disagreement on the ECB board about the ratesand QE", so if they make up their mind that would mean the euro would skyrocket ?

that is just too naive for my taste.
Yeah, talk about simplistic explanations for forex moves. Funny part is, these so-called "arguments" are always ex-post.
  • #87,420
  • Apr 20, 2009 10:04am Apr 20, 2009 10:04am
Well, looks like I closed that long at the perfect time. I just got back to find that we just dropped a bunch.

I'm going long again. Still looking for a reverse shampoo to form. Maybe this last drop is the new head.
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