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  • #86,241
  • Apr 16, 2009 5:10am Apr 16, 2009 5:10am
me could not find anything more humiliating that this, sorry fellas
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-...15-716434.html
  • #86,242
  • Apr 16, 2009 5:17am Apr 16, 2009 5:17am
Quoting billye
oh, but same time as eur drop usd rise just now,
dow and europe stocks all rise by 50pips...
I guess it is not due to the think of bad US data or why dow futures rise?
there is a lot of stuff to watch in the futures market----it will make your head hurt
  • #86,243
  • Apr 16, 2009 5:24am Apr 16, 2009 5:24am
Quoting knuckledrag
there is a lot of stuff to watch in the futures market----it will make your head hurt
Hello
Where do you have futures market data?
Thanks
The Market pays you to be disciplined
  • #86,244
  • Apr 16, 2009 5:28am Apr 16, 2009 5:28am
Quoting mima
Hello
Where do you have futures market data?
Thanks
http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/stocks/futures.html ??
  • #86,245
  • Apr 16, 2009 5:30am Apr 16, 2009 5:30am
Quoting billye
isn't it that the EUR news data is better than expected??

why EUR drop and USD rise?

even ger/fran/england stocks rise as well as dow futures?

sound inconsistent.

anyone can give a brief comment? GOOD or BAD data?
Thats the Age old Question, basically the entire planet is full of idiots and it generally goes the wrong way, never bother to read news, 1 it's ancient history already, 2 it'll setup a opinion which you'll trade to and more often than not it'll do the opposite.
Nothing to it, but to do it!!! Stick to the plan FOOL!!!!
  • #86,246
  • Apr 16, 2009 5:33am Apr 16, 2009 5:33am
Respect the fundy mr EUR/USD, stop playing tricks to stop me out!
  • #86,247
  • Apr 16, 2009 5:51am Apr 16, 2009 5:51am
I hope everyone is doing fine.
Only now I turn on my PC.
Yesterday night price done a False Break, but didn't caught me
After I closed some trades, what I've done was open more shorts

Now I have again +25 short trades, You're crazy Mike!!

Here is my last activity.
A automatic trade closing at 1.3200, a BIG one from 1.3247.

For now I will enjoy the day, not very sunny around here, but my account are shining.
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  • #86,248
  • Apr 16, 2009 5:54am Apr 16, 2009 5:54am
Hi All,

I am new in fundamental analysis, i need help here...i often confused because usually i meet some economic news release thats good for Euro or bad for USD for example, but after the news i often meet that the euro is weakened. Can some of the masters here tell me something why this is happened?thanks
The trend is your friend and you is your enemy - MJ
  • #86,249
  • Apr 16, 2009 5:57am Apr 16, 2009 5:57am
something else happened again??

dow futures dropped 70pips in past 20minutes... anyone know what happened?

Quoting billye
oh, but same time as eur drop usd rise just now,
dow and europe stocks all rise by 50pips...
I guess it is not due to the think of bad US data or why dow futures rise?
  • #86,250
  • Apr 16, 2009 5:58am Apr 16, 2009 5:58am
Quoting Moneys Lover
Hi All,

I am new in fundamental analysis, i need help here...i often confused because usually i meet some economic news release thats good for Euro or bad for USD for example, but after the news i often meet that the euro is weakened. Can some of the masters here tell me something why this is happened?thanks

Don't even try to understand news seriously don't, I tried for years, more often than not good for the Euro will make the Euro go down, errrrrr, so know when the news is, how much it's likely to impact the market possibly sit news times out and most importantly NEVER EVER EVER EVER Read the news, just trade the reaction.
Nothing to it, but to do it!!! Stick to the plan FOOL!!!!
  • #86,251
  • Apr 16, 2009 6:01am Apr 16, 2009 6:01am
Quoting Turveyd
most importantly NEVER EVER EVER EVER Read the news, just trade the reaction.
- I got your point...thank you so much....
The trend is your friend and you is your enemy - MJ
  • #86,252
  • Apr 16, 2009 6:11am Apr 16, 2009 6:11am
Quoting Moneys Lover
- I got your point...thank you so much....
I've lost A LOT Of money over the years, digging my heals in cause the market should go up say from the news and yet it's tanking, WHAT ARGGHHHHHH!!!!!!
Nothing to it, but to do it!!! Stick to the plan FOOL!!!!
  • #86,253
  • Apr 16, 2009 6:20am Apr 16, 2009 6:20am
Quoting mima
Hello
Where do you have futures market data?
Thanks
http://futuresource.quote.com/
  • #86,254
  • Apr 16, 2009 6:26am Apr 16, 2009 6:26am
Quoting Turveyd
I've lost A LOT Of money over the years, digging my heals in cause the market should go up say from the news and yet it's tanking, WHAT ARGGHHHHHH!!!!!!
What I have noticed over time is that there is an action and reaction on the news. I try to be out 15 minutes before the news and wait 15 minutes after the news to see where price is really going. Price will usually make an initial move up/down and then start to settle into a trend. That's my take on it anyway.

I never trade NFP Fridays. Have lost my butt more than once trying to figure that one out.
  • #86,255
  • Apr 16, 2009 6:31am Apr 16, 2009 6:31am
Quoting Moneys Lover
Hi All,

I am new in fundamental analysis, i need help here...i often confused because usually i meet some economic news release thats good for Euro or bad for USD for example, but after the news i often meet that the euro is weakened. Can some of the masters here tell me something why this is happened?thanks
I think trading fundamentals succesfully and precisely is very hard. I am an economist myself and work, in fact, with macroeconomics so I think understand the basic correlations of major macroeconomic indicators and exchange rate rather well, and I still can't figure out most of the price movements after indicators are released.

The golden rule, in my opinion, is that it doesn't really matter that much if an indicator is good or bad, but rather how good or bad it is compared with what the market expected, that's a good starting point. After that, most of the time it is still a guessing game for me, it probably takes years of observation to get a good feeling how a pair reacts to the main releases.

Hope it helps a bit.
  • #86,256
  • Apr 16, 2009 6:41am Apr 16, 2009 6:41am
Quoting Tenshi28
The golden rule, in my opinion, is that it doesn't really matter that much if an indicator is good or bad, but rather how good or bad it is compared with what the market expected, that's a good starting point. After that, most of the time it is still a guessing game for me, it probably takes years of observation to get a good feeling how a pair reacts to the main releases.
Hope it helps a bit.
- thank you...it helps me much (not a bit).... v
The trend is your friend and you is your enemy - MJ
  • #86,257
  • Apr 16, 2009 6:50am Apr 16, 2009 6:50am
Quoting Tenshi28
I think trading fundamentals succesfully and precisely is very hard. I am an economist myself and work, in fact, with macroeconomics so I think understand the basic correlations of major macroeconomic indicators and exchange rate rather well, and I still can't figure out most of the price movements after indicators are released.

The golden rule, in my opinion, is that it doesn't really matter that much if an indicator is good or bad, but rather how good or bad it is compared with what the market expected, that's a good starting point. After that,...

Thanks !!
"He who is well prepared has won half the battle"
  • #86,258
  • Apr 16, 2009 6:50am Apr 16, 2009 6:50am
sold 3155 100sl100ts
  • #86,259
  • Apr 16, 2009 6:54am Apr 16, 2009 6:54am
Quoting dysan4x
What I have noticed over time is that there is an action and reaction on the news. I try to be out 15 minutes before the news and wait 15 minutes after the news to see where price is really going. Price will usually make an initial move up/down and then start to settle into a trend. That's my take on it anyway.

I never trade NFP Fridays. Have lost my butt more than once trying to figure that one out.
You´re out 15mins on any news or news that are declared as "high" ?

Thx
"He who is well prepared has won half the battle"
  • #86,260
  • Apr 16, 2009 6:55am Apr 16, 2009 6:55am
My EA said BUY but was not too sure for me.... wait for better signal...

Good pips!
I'll send a bottle of wine to my first voucherer ;-)
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