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  • #201
  • Mar 31, 2009 11:44pm Mar 31, 2009 11:44pm
Hi lillya,

i was reading your started thread from the beginning. I would like to
trade on the 4 hr. TF. Did you mention the arrows only appear, if the
next candle breaks the price? So sometimes the entry would be far away,
especially in volatile pairs or times?

I also want the EA only to show entry and exit signals so in
can trade them manually.

I also was wondering what means "3 level zz" to what exactly does it refer?

thanks for the good work done so far.

piptiger
  • #202
  • Mar 31, 2009 11:51pm Mar 31, 2009 11:51pm
Quoting pitpiter
Hi again , I ask You about Your broker . Without that I can't do any analize or just post pic with situation about You asking. I program EA for open pos only with first tic for new bar. I will run EA today and share results tommorow.
I'm sure about LWMA , just see code and You will sure too.
And information for everybody : for working EA You need put EA file in expert folder , put indi IINWMARROWS to indikators folder , restart your platform , apply EA to chart , make it enable trade automaticaly . If You apply EA for couple pair the better way...
Hi Peter,

Thank you for this EA. It seems working well. except after the arrow appeared for a long time the position could not be opened.

Take a look at the chart of EJPY my post befor this one. when I saw arrow appears and stay there for a long time and no position opened so I took off the EA. Because I am afraid if a position opened it might too low.But in fact the later the price did come down.
Same happened to 4hr Euro and GBP chart. It opened the position 100 pips lower than the high.But euro signal is still valid into profit,GBP now 10 pips negtive.

Could you please have a look at the original arrow code I post.They are fast EMA3 and have their rules to make arrow appear.Could you include them into EA start function.Do you think it might help to solve the problem?

Before I am doing manual trading,there is no delayed arrow signal.If this problem could be solved that will be perfect.Tia
  • #203
  • Mar 31, 2009 11:55pm Mar 31, 2009 11:55pm
Quoting piptiger
Hi lillya,

i was reading your started thread from the beginning. I would like to
trade on the 4 hr. TF. Did you mention the arrows only appear, if the
next candle breaks the price? So sometimes the entry would be far away,
especially in volatile pairs or times?

I also want the EA only to show entry and exit signals so in
can trade them manually.

I also was wondering what means "3 level zz" to what exactly does it refer?

thanks for the good work done so far.

piptiger
3 level zz is not reliable,it repaint all the time with pA.I put there for count wave purpose.
  • #204
  • Apr 1, 2009 12:08am Apr 1, 2009 12:08am
Quoting piptiger
Hi lillya,

i was reading your started thread from the beginning. I would like to
trade on the 4 hr. TF. Did you mention the arrows only appear, if the
next candle breaks the price? So sometimes the entry would be far away,
especially in volatile pairs or times?

I also want the EA only to show entry and exit signals so in
can trade them manually.

I also was wondering what means "3 level zz" to what exactly does it refer?

thanks for the good work done so far.

piptiger
Peter,

when I do manual trading as soon as the arrow appears I open the position .Because it is so reliable.I am not hesitating to take action.I know breakout is a good trading principle.But for me it is too late. I am not used to it.If you see the original code of the arrow I m sure you will understand how it works.I know you give a good reliable entry and exist points.If you could combined the two good points together .that will help to make it perfect.
  • #205
  • Apr 1, 2009 12:13am Apr 1, 2009 12:13am
lillya,

thanks for explanation of "3 level zz".

But could you also let me know what i asked:
does the arrow only appear, if the price of the next bar is lower/higher
as the forgoing bar?

like i mentioned i am looking for a system/method for higher TF.
best 4hr.

It would be also an great help for fellow traders, if there would be an short
manual who explains, how the indis itself and the whole system works.

What is your preferred pair to trade with?

thanks for your dedication to this thread

piptiger
  • #206
  • Apr 1, 2009 12:18am Apr 1, 2009 12:18am
illya,

BTW, i am NOT PITPITER,

but my membername is also very close and could be confused.

greetings
PIPTIGER
  • #207
  • Apr 1, 2009 1:10am Apr 1, 2009 1:10am
Quoting pitpiter
Try this one. It open trade after bar on which indi generate signal close.
Good luck
Peter
edit look post 62 for correct version
Hi Peter,

Is it not too late to generate singnal after the bar close?

This happened to some pairs yesterday. Euro ,GBP,both give the signal after the previous bar close .that's 100 pips under the high.It is too late.
If you look at the original code : FASTEMA3,they are very efficient.as soon as the rule has been met the arrow appears. no delayed signal.Could you strickly follow that rule .Or it also might be helpful to include the original code into the
EA,which might help to solve this problem? tia,hope you make soem adjustment according to th eoriginal code please.
  • #208
  • Apr 1, 2009 1:15am Apr 1, 2009 1:15am
Quoting piptiger
Hi lillya,

i was reading your started thread from the beginning. I would like to
trade on the 4 hr. TF. Did you mention the arrows only appear, if the
next candle breaks the price? So sometimes the entry would be far away,
especially in volatile pairs or times?

I also want the EA only to show entry and exit signals so in
can trade them manually.

I also was wondering what means "3 level zz" to what exactly does it refer?

thanks for the good work done so far.

piptiger
No I did not mention that. I prefer as soon as the arrow comes out the position could be opened. I just observe that the position is too far away from the time an arrow appeared.
  • #209
  • Apr 1, 2009 1:19am Apr 1, 2009 1:19am
you guys gottobe kidding - what a waste of time an affords - your ma3 open/close cross repaints, solar wind (your fisher y4rik) - repaints as trooper - and you don't even know this...
any EA under this circumstances would be complete waste - there is no reliable becktest - no point

p.s. any another ind. would perform same or even better - and w/o lying
  • #210
  • Apr 1, 2009 3:06am Apr 1, 2009 3:06am
Quoting fxxx
you guys gottobe kidding - what a waste of time an affords - your ma3 open/close cross repaints, solar wind (your fisher y4rik) - repaints as trooper - and you don't even know this...
any EA under this circumstances would be complete waste - there is no reliable becktest - no point

p.s. any another ind. would perform same or even better - and w/o lying
Hi mate,

Please be polite. if you read carefully from the begining you will know this system is only about the arrow.Other indicators are for reference.they are helpful even they are faulty. I do not know why you have to swere ,could you make some positive suggestion? Be happy ,it is good for you!
  • #211
  • Apr 1, 2009 4:32am Apr 1, 2009 4:32am
Hi lyllia

IINWMARROWS is no more than two 3-period LMA indicators(fast with PRICE_CLOSE, slow with PRICE_OPEN), it does repaint, sometimes frequently.

Please have a look at the following two GJ 4H charts:

The first one is a normal history chart, the second one comes from MT4 Tester. That is: you will meet 2 more up arrows on chart-2 when trading live, how do you handle it?

Cheers,
Simon
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  • #212
  • Apr 1, 2009 5:35am Apr 1, 2009 5:35am
Quoting suwuming
Hi lyllia

IINWMARROWS is no more than two 3-period LMA indicators(fast with PRICE_CLOSE, slow with PRICE_OPEN), it does repaint, sometimes frequently.

Please have a look at the following two GJ 4H charts:

The first one is a normal history chart, the second one comes from MT4 Tester. That is: you will meet 2 more up arrows on chart-2 when trading live, how do you handle it?

Cheers,
Simon
Somebody told me repaint means they are not stable ,move or disappear.

I could confirm that they are stable,once they come out ,they remain.

If there are more than one arrow appear in one time frame,in EA trading which means sevral positions opened,then the first opposite singal close them all.
  • #213
  • Apr 1, 2009 2:51pm Apr 1, 2009 2:51pm
Hi there.
I have observe EA and indi on 5M TF. When bar 1 close arrow was apply on place when now I apply 1 , and latter it lose .
As for me it looking that if we have aroow up and get arrow down and on next bar get arrow up again , it canceled arrow down , applied one bar before and in that case we have on chart second up arrow .
As I see arrow always apply when bar close .
Lyllia , You shoud observe indi and will say your opinie about thing , what I'm talk.
Regards
Peter
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  • #214
  • Apr 1, 2009 6:59pm Apr 1, 2009 6:59pm
Originally Posted by fxxx http://www.forexfactory.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif
you guys gottobe kidding - what a waste of time an affords - your ma3 open/close cross repaints, solar wind (your fisher y4rik) - repaints as trooper - and you don't even know this...
any EA under this circumstances would be complete waste - there is no reliable becktest - no point

p.s. any another ind. would perform same or even better - and w/o lying
[/quote]
Quoting lyllia
Hi mate,Quote:

Please be polite. if you read carefully from the begining you will know this system is only about the arrow.Other indicators are for reference.they are helpful even they are faulty. I do not know why you have to swere ,could you make some positive suggestion? Be happy ,it is good for you!
i was polite - i sayed you indicators are lying, and you didn't even knew about it (it's tells how good you know your system - positive part)
p.s.your "arrow" - lwma 3 (open/close cross) ? (on such short per.(3) - can be any Ma) - ma cross alone basically would kill any system on chopy/flat market
cheers, mate
  • #215
  • Apr 1, 2009 7:12pm Apr 1, 2009 7:12pm
Quoting fxxx
i was polite - i sayed you indicators are lying, and you didn't even knew about it (it's tells how good you know your system - positive part)
p.s.your "arrow" - lwma 3 (open/close cross) ? (on such short per.(3) - can be any Ma) - ma cross alone basically would kill any system on chopy/flat market
cheers, mate
Hey, lyllia has 95% success rate.
  • #216
  • Apr 2, 2009 2:06am Apr 2, 2009 2:06am
Quoting pitpiter
Hi there.
I have observe EA and indi on 5M TF. When bar 1 close arrow was apply on place when now I apply 1 , and latter it lose .
As for me it looking that if we have aroow up and get arrow down and on next bar get arrow up again , it canceled arrow down , applied one bar before and in that case we have on chart second up arrow .
As I see arrow always apply when bar close .
Lyllia , You shoud observe indi and will say your opinie about thing , what I'm talk.
Regards
Peter
Ok I have another look.Try to find repaints.I have used it for a while,only come cross once.It moved a bit but not far from the original place ,maybe 4 or 5 pips away. It is very rare.I insist that it is reliable,usable for trading better than other arrow indicators.this is how I value this indicator.Nothing is perfect in this world.We should allow faulty in anything.For this indicator I have a high opinion of it.

The following are the MA that form the indicator:not only LWMA,They are working together make this indicator efficient and reliable.

FasterMode=3; //0=sma, 1=ema, 2=smma, 3=lwma
FasterMA= 3;
SlowerMode=3; //0=sma, 1=ema, 2=smma, 3=lwma
SlowerMA= 3;

if ((fasterMAnow > slowerMAnow) && (fasterMAprevious < slowerMAprevious) && (fasterMAafter > slowerMAafter))
{
CrossUp[i]=Low[i] - Range*0.5;
}
else if ((fasterMAnow < slowerMAnow) && (fasterMAprevious > slowerMAprevious) && (fasterMAafter < slowerMAafter))
{
CrossDown[i]=High[i] + Range*0.5; (additional filter here)

This fuction works very efficient.As soon as the arrow comes out it stay.I give it 95% successful rate. Especially for High TF.

If EA could includes the above function into its programming structure.that will be very promising.The only concern after I using the EA is the position opened sometimes too late after the arrow appears. If your guys could do something positive,that will be terrific.Do not kill this system even though it has faulty side .try to solve te problem.I think that's the way to make a perfect system. How do you think.Are there any way we could improve it?
  • #217
  • Apr 2, 2009 4:17am Apr 2, 2009 4:17am
Saly how are youdoing with this system ??


Lylia are you still thinking 95% hit rate or was that little to mutch ?

im not getting you buy signal and sell signals ?


best regards
  • #218
  • Apr 2, 2009 4:47am Apr 2, 2009 4:47am
good news tonight:

R & S:

JPY 100.11-97.34
GBP 1.4636-1.4216
AUD 0.7084-0.6849
EUR 1.3437-1.3058
CHF 1.1590-1.1307
NZD 0.5776-0.5539
CAD1.2482-1.2448

manage your own risk.
  • #219
  • Apr 2, 2009 10:40am Apr 2, 2009 10:40am
Quoting pitpiter
Hi there.
I have observe EA and indi on 5M TF. When bar 1 close arrow was apply on place when now I apply 1 , and latter it lose .
As for me it looking that if we have aroow up and get arrow down and on next bar get arrow up again , it canceled arrow down , applied one bar before and in that case we have on chart second up arrow .
As I see arrow always apply when bar close .
Lyllia , You shoud observe indi and will say your opinie about thing , what I'm talk.
Regards
Peter
Hi Peter,

I watched whole day and try to find repaint arrow,the result is none.

When you give me this EA, you mentioned the signal generated at the close of the bar.I did not pay attention to what you say then.Today I understand what does it mean.

Obviously this is not good for trading purpose.and the today 4hr CHF chart sell arrow comes out 1.1449 but the sell position opened after the next candle break out the low of the previous candle at 1.1338.also that's 3.5 hrs later opened this position.And the today's projected maximum low is 1.1309.So As a programmer you could see something wrong with this EA or it is not optimal. I have to tell everybody using this EA please make it optimal or do not use it.It will riun the profit.

There is somebody here in this thread mentioned sometimes the entry and exit point is a bit far.I do not agree.Since we have already got a good indicator why shouldn't we have a good EA.

This reminds me of some year's ago there is one person who talked to me online: people looking for fine things in life , that's an empty dream.This person played my best friend when he was talking to me as a role of an Expert Adviser. But behind me he also manupulated my situation to destroy me. His best skill is using different prople's name to do different things and nobody believe that's all done by one person.And he thought he played a smart role in life and dare not admit it.He said ' it is not me'.And He talked big and loud about integrity.

This person did somethig good for me,I thought I want to know the other side of this person , I did a test . The person showed his teeth.Actually this person know me long time ago before contacting me.Because I am a sort of research target, they tried all means to keep me in the game.

Ok just a story to have a fun. Are we a bit far from the entry of a good dream? or the exit is much nearer than the entry? when could we get a true and real Expert Adviser for a good dream? Or it is an empty dream?
  • #220
  • Edited 6:59pm Apr 2, 2009 12:59pm | Edited 6:59pm
Lyllia,

I placed the EA on four charts: EU, GU, UJ, GJ on Tuesday night. When I awoke in the morning (6am CST) I was -$254 (.01 lots on a standard account). When I got home from work(6 pm CST) all of the lots had closed for -$258 and new lots had opened for +$138. This morning I looked at it again and I was +$749, so I closed out half of each position and let the rest ride. So from since Tuesday night I have a profit of $124 (give or take) and I'm in positive pips with my current trades.

I will keep reporting.

Thanks
Mitch


Ok, it's 7:00pm (CST) and my account is at +$500. The only bad part is the the EA opened a sell on EU at 1.3215. It did go down to 1.3192 but then a bar later a buy signal appeared (up arrow) but the EA did not close me out of the sell and open a buy. If it did I would have seen a profit of 225 pips (ouch). Not sure why it did work on that pair.
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