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  • #41
  • Mar 20, 2009 2:27pm Mar 20, 2009 2:27pm
Glad to hear your farther is doing okay. Nice of you to be there for him.

Thanks for posting, I hope to have more decisons made before the end of the weekend in time for Monday's trading.

Damon

Quoting skybiz007
Single Slope Filter (SLF)
GBP/USD
TF-H1
SPF=10
SL =21
TS =0
BE =10
TP =0

I agree on the greater number of days to be tested. I had 10 to 15 of the same high profit trades with many different SL values, also the same was true for TS and TP, all the way from a low of...
"Keep your eyes on the helpers" - Mr. Rogers
  • #42
  • Mar 20, 2009 2:31pm Mar 20, 2009 2:31pm
Welcome aboard...

Damon

Quoting Nynyusa
I have been reading and following the threat since the slingshot days. Finally i decided to join last night and just now received posting privileges.

I will be testing and optimizing EURUSD and GBPUSD.

I am at work now, but will start posting results tonight.

Just be patient with me since I do most of my manual trading in the night. When I get home, besides spending time with family, school work and trading FX for profit, it leaves very little time to play with, but i am up for the challenge.

Take care all.
"Keep your eyes on the helpers" - Mr. Rogers
  • #43
  • Mar 20, 2009 4:22pm Mar 20, 2009 4:22pm
One thing becomes obvious, at least on the pair and with the methodology I tested, is that the results are not so good with the longer time frame. I ran a test with the 2-day optimized settings starting on 3/9/09. The 2 day TF result was significantly influenced by a single trade of 16.90. I didn't look, but this is probably the result of the Federal announcement about buying up more debt. At least in this instance, the wisdom of using a longer time frame makes sense.

Steve
  • #44
  • Mar 20, 2009 4:46pm Mar 20, 2009 4:46pm
Exactly why it seems to go a little longer to smooth this curve out a little, but not too long to smooth it out too much..

I will try and do some testing this weekend on differnt scenarios....

Damon
"Keep your eyes on the helpers" - Mr. Rogers
  • #45
  • Mar 20, 2009 11:02pm Mar 20, 2009 11:02pm
Gentlepersons: If the ea no longer represents the Slingshot methodology, what is the concept of trading that we are testing?

Steve
  • #46
  • Mar 21, 2009 7:28am Mar 21, 2009 7:28am
Quoting damonl
Welcome aboard...

Damon
Hi, happy to help. Have seen some tutorials on youtube of the slingshot method, and have experience in backtesting and optimising the Firebird system (in the Semiautomatic EA thread). Have read the well written documentation, understand the full detail and excited if i could be part of this. Yet to open a demo with FXDD (their website seems down today), but that shouldn't take long. Please let me know if i can help and on what currency and timeframe.

Fredella.
  • #47
  • Mar 21, 2009 12:03pm Mar 21, 2009 12:03pm
Thanks and welcome. I will get back to you regarding optimization and pairs, TF's etc.

Thanks.

Damon

Quoting Fredella
Hi, happy to help. Have seen some tutorials on youtube of the slingshot method, and have experience in backtesting and optimising the Firebird system (in the Semiautomatic EA thread). Have read the well written documentation, understand the full detail and excited if i could be part of this. Yet to open a demo with FXDD (their website seems down today), but that shouldn't take long. Please let me know if i can help and on what currency and timeframe.

Fredella.
"Keep your eyes on the helpers" - Mr. Rogers
  • #48
  • Edited 5:01pm Mar 21, 2009 4:50pm | Edited 5:01pm
Okay Guys -

I have spent the entire day testing different periods. I tested 1 week periods, 2 week periods and 3 week periods. I did testing for a week where we had a nice winning week and a week where we had a losing week.

Here are my results:

1 week Backtest Optimization:

  1. Did not offer more profits then either the 2 or 3 week test.
  2. Offered larger losses then the 2 week and 3 week test
  3. Conclusion: 1 week optimization is out.

2 Week Backtest Optimization:

  1. Offered slightly more profit then the 3 week
  2. Offered slightly more loss then the 3 week
  3. Conclusion: Toss up between this and the 3 week.

3 Week Backtest Optimization:

  1. Offered slightly less profit then the 2 week
  2. Offered slightly less loss then the 2 week
  3. Conclusion: Toss up between this and the 2 week.

My personal conclusion is to use the 3 week and back test for 3 weeks every week, as I would rather see slightly less profit in a winning week and slightly less loss in a lossing week rather than more profit with greater losses.

What do all of you feel about this? What this means is that we would backtest for each new week using the results of the previous 3 weeks. This is my vote.

Damon

P.S. This is avery time consuming thing to do and I only tested this way on the GbpUsd M30 TF. It would be an assumption that it would work the same for the other pairs and TF's, and another reason for using the safer 3 week back test. Perhaps later I will try it for the H1 TF, but I am willing to go this way for now.

"Keep your eyes on the helpers" - Mr. Rogers
  • #49
  • Mar 21, 2009 5:14pm Mar 21, 2009 5:14pm
silverngold, will you handle EurUsd M30 TF?

I think that we have GbpUsd covered for the moment? I will put you down, and if you don't want it, please let me know.

Damon

Quoting silverngold
Count me in on cable 30!
"Keep your eyes on the helpers" - Mr. Rogers
  • #50
  • Mar 21, 2009 5:17pm Mar 21, 2009 5:17pm
Hey Nynyusa -

We already have some people who have volunteered for GbpUsd and that pair is pretty full. We will need some more people on EurUsd though.

Will you mind telling me your optimizing experience?

Thanks...Damon

Quoting Nynyusa
I have been reading and following the threat since the slingshot days. Finally i decided to join last night and just now received posting privileges.

I will be testing and optimizing EURUSD and GBPUSD.

I am at work now, but will start posting results tonight.

Just be patient with me since I do most of my manual trading in the night. When I get home, besides spending time with family, school work and trading FX for profit, it leaves very little time to play with, but i am up for the challenge.

Take care all.
"Keep your eyes on the helpers" - Mr. Rogers
  • #51
  • Mar 21, 2009 5:18pm Mar 21, 2009 5:18pm
Hey Steve -

It does still represent the SlingShot method.

Quoting Steveg100
Gentlepersons: If the ea no longer represents the Slingshot methodology, what is the concept of trading that we are testing?

Steve
"Keep your eyes on the helpers" - Mr. Rogers
  • #52
  • Mar 21, 2009 5:19pm Mar 21, 2009 5:19pm
Hey Fredella -

I will put you down for optimizing the EurUsd M30 TF for the CSF Filter.

If this does not work for you please let me know.

Damon

Quoting Fredella
Hi, happy to help. Have seen some tutorials on youtube of the slingshot method, and have experience in backtesting and optimising the Firebird system (in the Semiautomatic EA thread). Have read the well written documentation, understand the full detail and excited if i could be part of this. Yet to open a demo with FXDD (their website seems down today), but that shouldn't take long. Please let me know if i can help and on what currency and timeframe.

Fredella.
"Keep your eyes on the helpers" - Mr. Rogers
  • #53
  • Mar 21, 2009 5:22pm Mar 21, 2009 5:22pm
Hello everyone -

We have put together a good group of testers. I will post the names of those who have volunteered on the first post of this thread as well as other pairs that I would like to add to this mix. This way people can see what is available and what isn't.

So far, I am up to day here.

Thanks again....Damon
"Keep your eyes on the helpers" - Mr. Rogers
  • #54
  • Mar 21, 2009 5:29pm Mar 21, 2009 5:29pm
I have no experience optimizing, but I can follow directions and I usually pick up things quickly. If you don't mind a newbie, I am more than willing to help out.

Mary
  • #55
  • Mar 21, 2009 5:36pm Mar 21, 2009 5:36pm
Hey Mary -

Welcome and thanks for you help. It is very welcome. How about Optimizing EurUsd H1 for the SLF Filter? We will be here to help you if you have any questions.

Thanks again, and I will put you down.

Have a great day...Damon

Quoting marisialb
I have no experience optimizing, but I can follow directions and I usually pick up things quickly. If you don't mind a newbie, I am more than willing to help out.

Mary
"Keep your eyes on the helpers" - Mr. Rogers
  • #56
  • Mar 21, 2009 5:41pm Mar 21, 2009 5:41pm
Sounds good to me!

Quoting damonl
Hey Mary -

Welcome and thanks for you help. It is very welcome. How about Optimizing EurUsd H1 for the SLF Filter? We will be here to help you if you have any questions.

Thanks again, and I will put you down.

Have a great day...Damon
  • #57
  • Mar 21, 2009 5:45pm Mar 21, 2009 5:45pm


Quoting marisialb
Sounds good to me!
"Keep your eyes on the helpers" - Mr. Rogers
  • #58
  • Mar 21, 2009 6:42pm Mar 21, 2009 6:42pm
i tested the slingshot ea in different broker,FXDD,FXPRO,and odl,they show different results .i checked the ea setting all the same including GMT time(because this 3 brokers give different time which should be consolidated).i don't know what's the reason,who can tell me, or you can test it like me, maybe they show the same result in your hands.

i really like to join u EA Optimization Group,hah
  • #59
  • Mar 21, 2009 10:19pm Mar 21, 2009 10:19pm
Hi, Damon: Thanks for the clarification. I apparently over-interpreted Gary's message (1298) on the former board.

Steve
  • #60
  • Mar 22, 2009 2:02am Mar 22, 2009 2:02am
hi Demonl，I trade eur/usd for many years,if u need i volunteer to test eur/usd. thanks a lot
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