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  • #72,741
  • Mar 8, 2009 3:39pm Mar 8, 2009 3:39pm
[quote=england33;2588091]we'll see ...unless he leads us into a wwIV or an outright governmental society../quote]WW4 will not be fought on the usual Battlle Grounds.

In Fact it is already underway.
Monetry Survivale is key.

"MAN WE GOT THEM PUSHED DOWN & ON THE RUN...

HEY, Gimmiee Yours.
  • #72,742
  • Mar 8, 2009 3:41pm Mar 8, 2009 3:41pm
Quoting djambazov84
no it didnt
I show 2686 before it fell back again. I know it isn't a sustained break, but it does look like it got past 2685 briefly.
  • #72,743
  • Mar 8, 2009 3:45pm Mar 8, 2009 3:45pm
Quoting Jay Walker
...Seems to me like an underhanded attempt to divert the attention from the U.S. problems to Europe's.
Nice observation and couldn't agree more.

Quoting lloydblankfe
Where are those who told me Europes picture looks much rosier, in the long run Europe is finished.
Let me add that Europe does not print money on toilet paper.

The US does.

Longer term, you figure it out.

Enough said.
  • #72,744
  • Mar 8, 2009 3:51pm Mar 8, 2009 3:51pm
Quoting _tlk_
Traders!!!

You're so full of shit talking about nonsense allmost all of your time here.
No wonder that the majority of loosers are stuck to forums like this.

Please, when making a post. Make sure it's a one that could educate your fellow trader so the banks that control this game won't take as much money as they do. Please!!!!!!



Jay - are you pretending once again to be newbie nimrod, sarcasticly posting under another name.



  • #72,745
  • Mar 8, 2009 3:53pm Mar 8, 2009 3:53pm
Quoting albchr
That's an amazingly short sighted view for someone with "both eyes on it". Especially since dumping 180 billion into this bottomless black hole (AIG) in an attempt to help multiple economies puts our grandchildren in debt before they are even born!

It's a real shame the European like LIBERALS in the US are in charge now and for whatever reason, feel your ever failing model is better than ours.

Just nasty! http://www.forexfactory.com/images/icons/icon8.gif
The quote from that lawmaker is totally one-sided, in that it is focusing on the systemic risks that the failure of AIG posed to economies outside of the US. This is a short-sighted viewpoint, however, as it fails to give a balanced argument through also looking at the systemic risks posed to the US economy of allowing AIG to collapse.

In addition to this, one must remember that systemic risk is a two-way phenomenon. Let's take RBS as a hypothetical example. RBS is a far bigger entity than Lehman Brothers was and is also a mojor player in the financial markets, particularly in the bi-lateral OTC derivatives sphere. Therefore, a collapse of RBS would have caused enormous pain and suffering for the countless US institutions which were facing the UK bank as a counterparty. In simple terms, it would have been a disaster for the global economy.

However, the bankruptcy of RBS has been averted, due to massive amounts of UK taxpayers' money being injected into the firm. So, using the same logic applied on the AIG bailout, it could be argued that UK taxpayers are bailing out the US, which would be just as absurd and short-sighted.
  • #72,746
  • Mar 8, 2009 3:53pm Mar 8, 2009 3:53pm
Quoting NuckingFuts
Let me add that Europe does not print money on toilet paper.

The US does.

Longer term, you figure it out.

Enough said.

Well we have no choice but to print it when our Radical Liberal Leader seems to think that he has a bottomless bag of money to spend on his liberal/socialist spending extravaganza.
  • #72,747
  • Mar 8, 2009 3:57pm Mar 8, 2009 3:57pm
Quoting Doniboy
Well we have no choice but to print it...
Band-aid solutions will always come unstuck.

Question is not if, it's when.
  • #72,748
  • Mar 8, 2009 4:02pm Mar 8, 2009 4:02pm
Quoting Doniboy
Well we have no choice but to print it when our Radical Liberal Leader seems to think that he has a bottomless bag of money to spend on his liberal/socialist spending extravaganza.
While simultaneously talking about this being a time for fiscal responsibility (do as I say not as I do) and then bailing out those who were not fiscally responsible and punishing those that were. Brilliant.
  • #72,749
  • Mar 8, 2009 4:02pm Mar 8, 2009 4:02pm
Quoting Doniboy
Well we have no choice but to print it when our Radical Liberal Leader seems to think that he has a bottomless bag of money to spend on his liberal/socialist spending extravaganza.
so Bush had nothing to do with the current terrible state of public finances in the US, when he seemed to think he had a bottomless bag of money to spend on his neo-con idealogue solutions to foreign affairs?

wasn't it record surplus to record deficit in 8 years?
  • #72,750
  • Mar 8, 2009 4:11pm Mar 8, 2009 4:11pm
Quoting gammase1
so Bush had nothing to do with the current terrible state of public finances in the US, when he seemed to think he had a bottomless bag of money to spend on his neo-con idealogue solutions to foreign affairs?

wasn't it record surplus to record deficit in 8 years?
It's all Ronald Reagans fault !
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  • #72,751
  • Mar 8, 2009 4:12pm Mar 8, 2009 4:12pm
Quoting KillerWhale
It's all Ronald Reagans fault !
Personally, I blame Lincoln! A very overrated president!!!
  • #72,752
  • Mar 8, 2009 4:17pm Mar 8, 2009 4:17pm
Quoting gammase1
Personally, I blame Lincoln! A very overrated president!!!
No, Reagan hired Alan Greenspan, the big de-regulator that through all the rules overboard. Thought that the big greedy bastards had enough responsibility to regulate themselves.
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  • #72,753
  • Mar 8, 2009 4:17pm Mar 8, 2009 4:17pm
Spicy Meatball?
  • #72,754
  • Mar 8, 2009 4:19pm Mar 8, 2009 4:19pm
I blame the illuminati and the Rothschild family.

I also blame "they". Whoever "they" is.
Not all sins are created equal
  • #72,755
  • Mar 8, 2009 4:22pm Mar 8, 2009 4:22pm
Quoting KillerWhale
No, Reagan hired Alan Greenspan, the big de-regulator that through all the rules overboard. Thought that the big greedy bastards had enough responsibility to regulate themselves.

A lot of people shared Greenspan's view that you highlight above, namely other western governments. With the benefit of hindsight, we now have many retrospective critics coming out of the woodwork. Sadly, their discerning voices weren't so audible at the time, particularly in the 1990's.
  • #72,756
  • Mar 8, 2009 4:22pm Mar 8, 2009 4:22pm
  • #72,757
  • Mar 8, 2009 4:23pm Mar 8, 2009 4:23pm
I don't trust the euro at the moment, short term only.
  • #72,758
  • Mar 8, 2009 4:24pm Mar 8, 2009 4:24pm
Quoting Jay Walker
I blame the illuminati and the Rothschild family.

I also blame "they". Whoever "they" is.
hahahaha.......

Let's get some wild conspiracy theories going. After all, isn't that the very purpose of the internet?

I've actually seen someone post on the Cable thread a rant about the jewish conspiracy that controls EVERYTHING and is totally to blame for sub-prime ...
  • #72,759
  • Mar 8, 2009 4:25pm Mar 8, 2009 4:25pm
Quoting gammase1
hahahaha.......

Let's get some wild conspiracy theories going. After all, isn't that the very purpose of the internet?

I've actually seen someone post on the Cable thread a rant about the jewish conspiracy that controls EVERYTHING and is totally to blame for sub-prime.
It's on the internet so it must be true
Not all sins are created equal
  • #72,760
  • Mar 8, 2009 4:26pm Mar 8, 2009 4:26pm
Quoting TIckerShuffl
I don't trust the euro at the moment, short term only.
Same here...
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