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  • #721
  • Nov 19, 2008 9:59am Nov 19, 2008 9:59am
Quoting skyline
Cindy I took that short, actually I'm 70 pips up still going on, if one of black/purple stoch will turn against i'll be out.
Awesome Skyline good stuff
Time hides Nothing
  • #722
  • Nov 19, 2008 10:00am Nov 19, 2008 10:00am
Nice short skyline, please show us how you close it
thanks
  • #723
  • Nov 19, 2008 10:03am Nov 19, 2008 10:03am
up 74 pips and counting...
im going to ride this like an escalator to pips since the 5,15,30,1h all crossed 80 and heading down. the 4h started midway but is pointing down, so im looking for several stochs to cross the 20.
Just focus on the pips. The rest is insignificant.
  • #724
  • Nov 19, 2008 10:08am Nov 19, 2008 10:08am
I know that we are working with the 5m (rope), but the 15m looks rather nice itself. I know that we just experienced some super-volatility, but the 15m looks so clear.
  • #725
  • Nov 19, 2008 10:08am Nov 19, 2008 10:08am
Thx Guys & Gals
Ok closed at first sign of indecision on rope stoch (black line) that went slightly up (it's not so clear looking at chart) , at the end I racked +84 pips but I'm not sure if this was only lucky , Spud any comment on this trade ?
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  • #726
  • Edited 10:25am Nov 19, 2008 10:14am | Edited 10:25am
I know for some people that are new to The Ways of The Spud that the introduction of other methods is becoming confusing. So i dont want to make it even more complicated, but i think there is something worth mentioning. In Stochastic Elasticity we learned that we get warning signs when stochastics peak higher than previous highs or lower than previous lows. This can be an early indicator of the current trend failing. I felt this is a good tool to understand and have in our arsenal, as it helps predict change.


My short trade just hit the 150 pip mark
Just focus on the pips. The rest is insignificant.
  • #727
  • Nov 19, 2008 10:15am Nov 19, 2008 10:15am
Anyone know how to open those 2 MHTML files in the template file Spud provided earlier? Or are those to files not to be opened? Just thought maybe those were some instructions. One is 'Rope Scalps' and other Rope Trades'.

Thx,
Todd
  • #728
  • Nov 19, 2008 10:25am Nov 19, 2008 10:25am
Quoting ayaz
I know for some people that are new to The Ways of The Spud that the introduction of other methods is becoming confusing. So i dont want to make it even more complicated, but i think there is something worth mentioning. In Stochastic Elasticity we learned that we get warning signs when stochastics peak higher than previous highs or lower than previous lows. This can be an early indicator of the current trend failing. I felt this is a good tool to understand and have in our arsenal, as it helps predict change.


My short trade just hit the 100...
WE ARE MAKING $$$$ TODAY!! SPUD WILL BE PROUD
  • #729
  • Nov 19, 2008 10:31am Nov 19, 2008 10:31am
Quoting jdcompute
WE ARE MAKING $$$$ TODAY!! SPUD WILL BE PROUD
Good thing u didnt wait for the 5m to cycle back up to the top and come back down. It never looked like it had any intention of doing that!
Just focus on the pips. The rest is insignificant.
  • #730
  • Nov 19, 2008 10:32am Nov 19, 2008 10:32am
Quoting jdcompute
WE ARE MAKING $$$$ TODAY!! SPUD WILL BE PROUD
Yes JD ! This last trade that is still going down as far as I understand mtf predictive is a textbook trade. I'm looking at the slope and direction of M15/M30 and H1 they are all screaming 'stay in that short !!!' , for sure a trade that could worth around 200 pips , very nice
  • #731
  • Nov 19, 2008 10:38am Nov 19, 2008 10:38am
Hmmmm what i just said got me to thinking....

We learned that in order for the longer TFS to fall, the shorter ones NEED to go back up and get them. HOWEVER in this case that didnt happen- the shorter tfs went into over sold, and just stayed there as the longer TFS just continued to fall.

How can we discern wether the shorter tfs will stay at the extremeties, or if they will cycle back to the other end to "go get" the longer tfs????
Just focus on the pips. The rest is insignificant.
  • #732
  • Nov 19, 2008 10:43am Nov 19, 2008 10:43am
Quoting ayaz
Hmmmm what i just said got me to thinking....

We learned that in order for the longer TFS to fall, the shorter ones NEED to go back up and get them. HOWEVER in this case that didnt happen- the shorter tfs went into over sold, and just stayed there as the longer TFS just continued to fall.

How can we discern wether the shorter tfs will stay at the extremeties, or if they will cycle back to the other end to "go get" the longer tfs????
Thats why we wait for things to get below 80 above 20 and point in our direction
Time hides Nothing
  • #733
  • Nov 19, 2008 10:49am Nov 19, 2008 10:49am
Quoting CindyXXXX
Thats why we wait for things to get above 80 below 20 and point in our direction
??? Could you clarify/elaborate?

The way I see it is we want them to cross BELOW 80 and ABOVE 20...or perhaps im totally confused.
Just focus on the pips. The rest is insignificant.
  • #734
  • Nov 19, 2008 10:52am Nov 19, 2008 10:52am
Quoting ayaz
??? Could you clarify/elaborate?

The way I see it is we want them to cross BELOW 80 and ABOVE 20...or perhaps im totally confused.
OOps typo sorry above 20 below 80! my bad
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  • #735
  • Nov 19, 2008 10:55am Nov 19, 2008 10:55am
Quoting CindyXXXX
OOps typo sorry above 20 below 80! my bad
lol ok glad we got that cleared up. imagine how that could mess up a newbie trying to learn this!! hahaha it sent me for a loop for a minute! lol
Just focus on the pips. The rest is insignificant.
  • #736
  • Nov 19, 2008 10:59am Nov 19, 2008 10:59am
Guys , I opened a new chat room so that we can met there instead of posting all our conversations here and keep this thread more readible.
To use it there's no need to download anything , it is a javascript chat browser.
Here's the link : http://www.chatzy.com/576273330576

Hope to met you all there
  • #737
  • Nov 19, 2008 11:15am Nov 19, 2008 11:15am
Quoting skyline
Guys , I opened a new chat room so that we can met there instead of posting all our conversations here and keep this thread more readible.
To use it there's no need to download anything , it is a javascript chat browser.
Here's the link : http://www.chatzy.com/576273330576

Hope to met you all there
i think the problem with the chat is that its TOO real-time. its hard to keep up with live chat while ur analysing your charts and trading. On the thread, we can check back and reply to specific messages at our own time and pace. Factor in time zones and the fact that ppl trade at different hours and it becomes even harder. Suppose we are analyzing a trade and Spud is sleeping but might have valuable input. In the chat he misses it, but in the thread he can reply when he gets online.

Im willing to try it and particpate, but thats my 2 pips on it.
Just focus on the pips. The rest is insignificant.
  • #738
  • Nov 19, 2008 11:23am Nov 19, 2008 11:23am
Quoting ayaz
i think the problem with the chat is that its TOO real-time. its hard to keep up with live chat while ur analysing your charts and trading. On the thread, we can check back and reply to specific messages at our own time and pace. Factor in time zones and the fact that ppl trade at different hours and it becomes even harder. Suppose we are analyzing a trade and Spud is sleeping but might have valuable input. In the chat he misses it, but in the thread he can reply when he gets online.

Im willing to try it and particpate, but thats my 2 pips...
Yes I see your point Ayaz, well there's no problem the chat is always available and it's free for all, if you are in an annoying ranging days (as yesterday), from time to time you can jump there for some chit-chat
  • #739
  • Nov 19, 2008 11:26am Nov 19, 2008 11:26am
Quoting ayaz
i think the problem with the chat is that its TOO real-time. its hard to keep up with live chat while ur analysing your charts and trading. On the thread, we can check back and reply to specific messages at our own time and pace. Factor in time zones and the fact that ppl trade at different hours and it becomes even harder. Suppose we are analyzing a trade and Spud is sleeping but might have valuable input. In the chat he misses it, but in the thread he can reply when he gets online.

Im willing to try it and particpate, but thats my 2 pips on...
Actually I think the problem is the real questions posted in this thread get trashed and burried with rubbish posts (like this one) and so Spud misses them as he's wading through the swamp of meaningless posts (like this one) I know I've had a few burried today

I mean to be brutally honest no one really cares if you just made a quick 20 pips unless you post a chart and explain why , whats the point 3 hours later when the moments passed its not gonna mean a thing to someone reading through the thread.

Just my 2 pips
Time hides Nothing
  • #740
  • Nov 19, 2008 11:37am Nov 19, 2008 11:37am
I closed my short trade at +114 pips. Altho i could have kept riding the 1h down into oversold, i didnt liek the way the stochs were moving. As a further confirmation, we are repeatedly bouncing off a support line so thats enough for me to get out.
Just focus on the pips. The rest is insignificant.
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