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  • #12,101
  • Sep 30, 2008 1:57pm Sep 30, 2008 1:57pm
Quoting ukvipersden
Dare I say it: another +150 and we are UP - yes UP - 600!!!
LOL... close +485

Very nice... Coz after the -777, when you see a +485 it means you have NO IDEA what to expect next!!!
  • #12,102
  • Sep 30, 2008 2:24pm Sep 30, 2008 2:24pm
Quoting cesarnc
1.38 is Euro's number of the beast... If it goes, it may pretty well crack a multi year channel.
I've been buying small lots since 1.44. Gisele knows EXACTLY what she's doing! We'll stay in that uptrend.
  • #12,103
  • Sep 30, 2008 2:55pm Sep 30, 2008 2:55pm
Jim Rogers on Bailout and Dollar http://www.bloomberg.com/avp/avp.htm...l1McjXM2JA.asf

a must listen!!
Trading is 80% Emotional, 20% Technical
  • #12,104
  • Sep 30, 2008 3:12pm Sep 30, 2008 3:12pm
Quoting fx local
Jim Rogers on Bailout and Dollar http://www.bloomberg.com/avp/avp.htm...l1McjXM2JA.asf

a must listen!!
Well, nice point-of-view...

But he refuses to throw an analysis on the overall economy. His scenario is a valid CHART scenario, but he seems to believe that the worst it can happen is a "sharp decline". Ok, he will sit tight and then fish the bottom, good for him.

But what happens if unemployment goes to 20%? He refuses to answer things like that...

That's the problem with those against the bailout plan: their alternative cannot be said in broader terms... Let banks fail!!! Well, several banks already did. If there is somebody else to fail, it is the average joe now.

Gotta tell you this. I'm glued to Bloomberg, CNN, BBC TVs and CNBC, Times websites for 5 days now. I've seen tens, maybe hundreds of commentaries. Most of them from former finance ministers, CEOs, economists, journalists, BSers, everything.

The only thing in common is the "I don't know" when they start to answer. Each one of them has different opinion.

To me, that's how bad that is: Nobody knows how bad that is. So bail out everybody and work your asses hard to profit from the $700bn.

That "tax payer is gonna pay" is bullshit. If Paulson / Bernanke are going to do exactly as they say? THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE CONGRESS SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT!! WATCH THEIR ASSES THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS!!!
  • #12,105
  • Sep 30, 2008 3:32pm Sep 30, 2008 3:32pm
Quoting cesarnc
Well, nice point-of-view...

But he refuses to throw an analysis on the overall economy. His scenario is a valid CHART scenario, but he seems to believe that the worst it can happen is a "sharp decline". Ok, he will sit tight and then fish the bottom, good for him.

But what happens if unemployment goes to 20%? He refuses to answer things like that...

That's the problem with those against the bailout plan: their alternative cannot be said in broader terms... Let banks fail!!! Well, several banks already did. If there is somebody else to fail, it is the average joe now.

Gotta tell you this. I'm glued to Bloomberg, CNN, BBC TVs and CNBC, Times websites for 5 days now. I've seen tens, maybe hundreds of commentaries. Most of them from former finance ministers, CEOs, economists, journalists, BSers, everything.

The only thing in common is the "I don't know" when they start to answer. Each one of them has different opinion.

To me, that's how bad that is: Nobody knows how bad that is. So bail out everybody and work your asses hard to profit from the $700bn.

That "tax payer is gonna pay" is bullshit. If Paulson / Bernanke are going to do exactly as they say? THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE CONGRESS SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT!! WATCH THEIR ASSES THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS!!!
it will be even worse if they keep proping up a flawed system,

a drug addict needs COLD TURKEY!! tough medicine, a year of pain to rebuild, not more and more shots of drugs when the buzz wears off

this will end with ultimate destruction of dollar as reserve currency and loss of US as global power... read George Soros latest book interesting read....
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  • #12,106
  • Sep 30, 2008 3:37pm Sep 30, 2008 3:37pm
Quoting fx local
Jim Rogers on Bailout and Dollar http://www.bloomberg.com/avp/avp.htm...l1McjXM2JA.asf

a must listen!!
Dr. Paul’s House floor remarks on the bailout

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zthleIslVLU

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog/?p=642
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  • #12,107
  • Sep 30, 2008 4:38pm Sep 30, 2008 4:38pm
Senate Expected to Vote on Financial Rescue Plan Wednesday Evening (story developing)
-CNBC

  • #12,108
  • Sep 30, 2008 4:44pm Sep 30, 2008 4:44pm
We have another supporter for the cause...

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y28...olie_check.jpg

Smoking hot
  • #12,109
  • Sep 30, 2008 4:46pm Sep 30, 2008 4:46pm
Quoting cesarnc
Senate Expected to Vote on Financial Rescue Plan Wednesday Evening (story developing)
-CNBC

lets hope they rip up the check and shove it down wall streets throat!
Trading is 80% Emotional, 20% Technical
  • #12,110
  • Sep 30, 2008 4:51pm Sep 30, 2008 4:51pm
Quoting fx local
lets hope they rip up the check and shove it down wall streets throat!
hahaha.. you know what's gonna be the first headline AFTER the bailout plan is approved, right?

"Asian stocks slump, Europe tanks, US Futures plunge on concerns the bailout plan is not enough"

  • #12,111
  • Sep 30, 2008 4:59pm Sep 30, 2008 4:59pm
[quote=cesarnc;2251738]hahaha.. you know what's gonna be the first headline AFTER the bailout plan is approved, right?

"Asian stocks slump, Europe tanks, US Futures plunge on concerns the bailout plan is not enough"


yep after main street wakes up to realise the cheque will be signed to bail out Bonehead Paulsons friends on Wall Street and ZERO benefit will go to Joe Public... especially when the bonehead is exempt from any repercussions when he leaves his post in DC in a few weeks/months and goes back to wall street.. this is beyond a joke now!
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  • #12,112
  • Sep 30, 2008 5:17pm Sep 30, 2008 5:17pm
Let us not forget that we have the NFP on Friday. When it comes out -150k job loss, unemployemtn at 6.3%, everything will change.
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  • #12,113
  • Sep 30, 2008 5:40pm Sep 30, 2008 5:40pm
Quoting Ash
Let us not forget that we have the NFP on Friday. When it comes out -150k job loss, unemployemtn at 6.3%, everything will change.
not really since them figures will not that much of a surprise, since every1 talking down US econo hence bailout??
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  • #12,114
  • Edited 6:21pm Sep 30, 2008 6:09pm | Edited 6:21pm
Looks like they are gonna try to ram it through tomorrow. Only change to the bill will be to add the raising of the FDIC insurance cap. My mistake...Senate is voting.
  • #12,115
  • Oct 1, 2008 2:21am Oct 1, 2008 2:21am
This sign or no sign is getting my nerves. Lets help out a bit..
I'm helping with the "table"..
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  • #12,116
  • Oct 1, 2008 3:14am Oct 1, 2008 3:14am
Morning all...

A group of House Republicans is cobbling together a proposal to stabilize financial markets that can serve as an alternative to the prior rescue plan, legislative sources said.

Here we go for another nervous +400 / -400 Dow day
  • #12,117
  • Oct 1, 2008 3:15am Oct 1, 2008 3:15am
Quoting dd33
This sign or no sign is getting my nerves. Lets help out a bit..
I'm helping with the "table"..
I'd need seatbelts to ride all of these turns
  • #12,118
  • Oct 1, 2008 4:03am Oct 1, 2008 4:03am
this is the best roller coaster ride inthe park!!!! if we sold tickets to the roller coaster freaks of the world, we would have enough money to bail out everyone!!!! they would never get off!!

as for the seatbelt, i think i will pass. i want to get all the hot, mostly naked females posted in this thread, put them all on a big waterbed and lay in the middle of them and enjoy the turbulence
  • #12,119
  • Oct 1, 2008 4:06am Oct 1, 2008 4:06am
After the failed Lonmin bid, will somebody please tell Vale to bid for Xstrata. C'mon!!!
  • #12,120
  • Oct 1, 2008 4:23am Oct 1, 2008 4:23am
Quoting ukvipersden
After the failed Lonmin bid, will somebody please tell Vale to bid for Xstrata. C'mon!!!
Man, I'm not seeing anything about that Vale x Xstrata deal anymore. Not even my bank, which is recommending heavy buy on Vale, mentions the deal as a reason to.
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