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  • #35,221
  • Sep 29, 2008 2:40pm Sep 29, 2008 2:40pm
Quoting elfinchilde
true true.

and piptechnician, let me just say that personally, i'd have been against the bailout (imagine being innocent and having to foot the bill for the fat cats of wall street). as an investor though, it's time.

hehe. in any case, this is after the fact. just gotta be ready to react tomorrow and the days after, come what may.

cheers!

edit: DJIA down 674 and counting.
the stock market lost 1trillion dollars just today...that is 300billion more then the proposed plan which was intended to boost morale...tell me...which price is heavier?...a dark stain with a 1trillion tag on it or a 700b ray of hope with the intent of better things to come attached to it?
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  • #35,222
  • Sep 29, 2008 2:41pm Sep 29, 2008 2:41pm
Quoting psiholog
i apologize to all that are here...i realize i overreacted(which is what congress should do to this absurdity) and may have offended some...i am 22 years old and can be immature at times...my apologies again
non taken..being 22 myself..i understand..the fact that u apologize shows that ure more mature than what u claim to be..ure analysis have helped others in their quest to understand forex..it's normal to be mad if the market doesn't go the way u wanted it to be..pleasure knowing u
  • #35,223
  • Sep 29, 2008 2:41pm Sep 29, 2008 2:41pm
I'm thinking about going long on EUR.USD and considering also shorting EUR.JPY to form a hedge... Could you pls. share your views on this?
  • #35,224
  • Sep 29, 2008 2:44pm Sep 29, 2008 2:44pm
Quoting zeus_ares86
non taken..being 22 myself..i understand..the fact that u apologize shows that ure more mature than what u claim to be..ure analysis have helped others in their quest to understand forex..it's normal to be mad if the market doesn't go the way u wanted it to be..pleasure knowing u
honestly my outrage has nothing to do with forex...it has to do with the stability of the world which in serious jeopardy right now...psychology being my main asset it is also my main weakness when i lose control...its like i feel the weight of the mess we are put in with no attempt to get out of it...that saddens me
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  • #35,225
  • Sep 29, 2008 2:45pm Sep 29, 2008 2:45pm
Quoting emda
everything is pointing me to a new black monday this monday.....


well.... not sure it is black or not.. but.. it is something close to what I was telling you on friday...
  • #35,226
  • Sep 29, 2008 2:45pm Sep 29, 2008 2:45pm
Quoting psiholog
the stock market lost 1trillion dollars just today...that is 300billion more then the proposed plan which was intended to boost morale...tell me...which price is heavier?...a dark stain with a 1trillion tag on it or a 700b ray of hope with the intent of better things to come attached to it?
The one we will all pay now.
  • #35,227
  • Sep 29, 2008 2:48pm Sep 29, 2008 2:48pm
I will, in my end days, look back on this period in time as one of the best that were given me. You see...
I Don't Trade In A Grinder.

Last week I took Rieley {see my bio pic. he's almost 4 yrs old now} on a camping & fishing trip, Thank You Lord for the Times we had.
"Sorry Rieley, we have to go home now, Pop needs to get back to work."

@ Home...
Hmmm... Still not sure where these Markets are headed... Glad I didn't guess...

"OK Rieley, Let's load up some fresh supplies & get back out there! " {this time I think I'll pack the extra battery for the laptop too.}

Rieley!! Stop bouncing off the walls. I had fun too and we're going back...

There will be lots of time to Trade during Winter.

To the Powers that be... Thank you. You made me a Hero.
{at least in my grandson's eyes}

To Topic.
You Chart Posting wiz's.
I would be interested to see Overlays of
EUR/USD / Spot Gold
& USD/CAD / Crude.

To the woods, to the woods...
Let's go Rieley...
Tight Lines everybody..
  • #35,228
  • Sep 29, 2008 2:49pm Sep 29, 2008 2:49pm
Quoting emda
well.... not sure it is black or not.. but.. it is something close to what I was telling you on friday...
As a general rule I don't recall liking you.

I still think I don't but your call was correct.

This is a black Monday indeed.

By the way... guess what day the great depression crash landed on.

October 29th.

Same day... only a month off.
  • #35,229
  • Sep 29, 2008 2:50pm Sep 29, 2008 2:50pm
Quoting psiholog
the stock market lost 1trillion dollars just today...that is 300billion more then the proposed plan which was intended to boost morale...tell me...which price is heavier?...a dark stain with a 1trillion tag on it or a 700b ray of hope with the intent of better things to come attached to it?
Investors trading the stock market made the choice to put their money there.

The problem is we give them 700 billion today, they come back a couple of months from now and ask 1.4 trillion. Where does it end?
Remember Bear Stearns? Give us the bailout and everything will be fine, is that not what they told us?
  • #35,230
  • Sep 29, 2008 2:50pm Sep 29, 2008 2:50pm
Quoting emda
well.... not sure it is black or not.. but.. it is something close to what I was telling you on friday...
yea i was reffering to your post.....i feel so foolish for not considering that the plan may not pass...if that thought crossed my mind...when i was looking at the voting i would have used 50% risk in my account....buy at the low...so much for faith in a broken system..
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  • #35,231
  • Sep 29, 2008 2:54pm Sep 29, 2008 2:54pm
Quoting Russell
Investors trading the stock market made the choice to put their money there.

The problem is we give them 700 billion today, they come back a couple of months from now and ask 1.4 trillion. Where does it end?
Remember Bear Stearns? Give us the bailout and everything will be fine, is that not what they told us?
what happened is a clear reflection of the sentiment at the moment, thast what i was trying to point out...i would be against that 1.4trillion more myself ..this is a one time deal ...it works or it doesnt...just the fact that it would be attempted to at least try to levitate the current situation is what i think should have happened...we would have seen 500points up..the bailout plan paying for itself on this very first day
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  • #35,232
  • Sep 29, 2008 2:58pm Sep 29, 2008 2:58pm
Quoting Russell
Investors trading the stock market made the choice to put their money there.

The problem is we give them 700 billion today, they come back a couple of months from now and ask 1.4 trillion. Where does it end?
Remember Bear Stearns? Give us the bailout and everything will be fine, is that not what they told us?
Investor don't trade... they invest.

Traders trade...hence the name... trader.

No one said everything would be fine.

I can see you're a sage with this stuff... a real economist.
  • #35,233
  • Sep 29, 2008 3:00pm Sep 29, 2008 3:00pm
Quoting Bemac
I will, in my end days, look back on this period in time as one of the best that were given me. You see...
I Don't Trade In A Grinder.

Last week I took Rieley {see my bio pic. he's almost 4 yrs old now} on a camping & fishing trip, Thank You Lord for the Times we had.
"Sorry Rieley, we have to go home now, Pop needs to get back to work."

@ Home...
Hmmm... Still not sure where these Markets are headed... Glad I didn't guess...

"OK Rieley, Let's load up some fresh supplies & get back out there! " {this time I think I'll pack the extra battery for the laptop too.}

Rieley!! Stop bouncing off the walls. I had fun too and we're going back...

There will be lots of time to Trade during Winter.

To the Powers that be... Thank you. You made me a Hero.
{at least in my grandson's eyes}

To Topic.
You Chart Posting wiz's.
I would be interested to see Overlays of
EUR/USD / Spot Gold
& USD/CAD / Crude.

To the woods, to the woods...
Let's go Rieley...
Tight Lines everybody..
There are days I read your posts and think... this guys very well informed.

Other days... this guy is the first seat on the short bus.
  • #35,234
  • Sep 29, 2008 3:04pm Sep 29, 2008 3:04pm
Quoting acumen
There are days I read your posts and think... this guys very well informed.

Other days... this guy is the first seat on the short bus.

LOL,

I always look for a cryptic message that may or may not exist. I recently started riding the short bus and know it.

When I read this I thought he said that he thinks that the EURUSD is going to go back to where it was this past winter.
Redefining Reality
  • #35,235
  • Sep 29, 2008 3:07pm Sep 29, 2008 3:07pm
Quoting piptechnician
LOL,

I always look for a cryptic message that may or may not exist. I recently started riding the short bus and know it.

When I read this I thought he said that he thinks that the EURUSD is going to go back to where it was this past winter.
Put a helmut on him... to the front line short bus candidate.

m
  • #35,236
  • Sep 29, 2008 3:08pm Sep 29, 2008 3:08pm
Quoting acumen
Put a helmut on him... to the front line short bus candidate.

m

medication would help also
Redefining Reality
  • #35,237
  • Sep 29, 2008 3:10pm Sep 29, 2008 3:10pm
Quoting psiholog
what happened is a clear reflection of the sentiment at the moment, thast what i was trying to point out...i would be against that 1.4trillion more myself ..this is a one time deal ...it works or it doesnt...just the fact that it would be attempted to at least try to levitate the current situation is what i think should have happened...we would have seen 500points up..the bailout plan paying for itself on this very first day
How long is a 'moment' in your view?

Not slammin', just gathering.
btw. I apprieciate your dedication to this thread & also how you can let the 'conflicts' slide off your back without deviation from topic.

Well done psiholog.
  • #35,238
  • Sep 29, 2008 3:11pm Sep 29, 2008 3:11pm
coming back to forex....we are in the downtrend channel before the breakout....logic says the full volume of that spike wil get filled...sentiment is too chaotic to read right now so i will not trade..in fact...im going to buy some ciggs and get some sleep...good luck to all trying to trade this market

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  • #35,239
  • Sep 29, 2008 3:17pm Sep 29, 2008 3:17pm
Quoting acumen
Investor don't trade... they invest.

Traders trade...hence the name... trader.

No one said everything would be fine.

I can see you're a sage with this stuff... a real economist.
No need to be snippy.

I'm not claiming to be an expert. I'm just dicussing the issues, maybe I'm
a 1,000 miles wrong. I don't trade based on fundies so this all an academic
exercise.

Now regardless of nit picky definitions. There are both investors and traders
in the stock market, they both made the choice to be there.

I was talking to a friend a while back about his 401K. He was worried and was not sure what to do, so I told why not cash it out and put in treasury's or cash untill things become clear.

Bottom line is if someone is taking some losses in the stock market it's not my problem. If people would pay attention they would have seen this coming. I know I did.

Frankly, I don't think throwing billions or trillions of dollars at the people who
helped create this problem is the answer. Maybe I'm wrong, after all I'm just
a dumb 25 year old that happens to know how to trade. I don't possess any fancy degrees or anything like that. The only experience I have is owning a
business a while back and trading.

So in summary don't take me to seriously because Im likely just talking out my rear
The End.
  • #35,240
  • Sep 29, 2008 3:18pm Sep 29, 2008 3:18pm
Quoting Bemac
How long is a 'moment' in your view?

Not slammin', just gathering.
btw. I apprieciate your dedication to this thread & also how you can let the 'conflicts' slide off your back without deviation from topic.

Well done psiholog.
this is how i view it...this whole plan has been built up all of last week...it was the headline news last week and the markets stood still for it...stock market and eur/usd...we were all led to believe it would come to pass..in preparation for it the stock market gained friday and the dollar got stronger today(may be because of bad euro news who knows anymore)....so for the vote to not pass...it was quite a shock not only to me but traders in general who had their buy the stock market buy the dollar orders set ready...when that didnt happen....massive panic...the vix(volatility indicator) jumped from a low of 36 all the way to 47...the highest level in years and major panic set in.


how long is a moment?....i am still shocked...how long will the effects be seen?...if nothing is done this is just the beggining



on that note....i am leaving now and the best to you all no matter what side of the fence you are on
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