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  • #33,581
  • Sep 24, 2008 6:26am Sep 24, 2008 6:26am
Im long @ 1,4690 from 8 hours at least. I'm wasting my time waiting a bullish movement. up up up
  • #33,582
  • Sep 24, 2008 6:32am Sep 24, 2008 6:32am
Quoting mikkom
This tells lot about what economists think about the bailout bill

http://faculty.chicagogsb.edu/john.c...ge_protest.htm

Very Nice...so I am not crazy after all.

The Bush admin is like the boy who cried wolf. Everything is a crisis with these people.
  • #33,583
  • Sep 24, 2008 6:33am Sep 24, 2008 6:33am
Quoting JgrB
US thinking about forbidding commodities 'naked Buying', i.e. buying commodities without willing to take delivery.
That would be fun... Seeing soybeans truck invading Wall Street to deliver to the trader

And her wife waking up in the morning with a 1,000 oil barrels being dumped in her garden
  • #33,584
  • Sep 24, 2008 6:34am Sep 24, 2008 6:34am
Quoting -TryToTrade-
Im long @ 1,4690 from 8 hours at least. I'm wasting my time waiting a bullish movement. up up up
I hope you make money, I am not confident enough to take any positions right now.
  • #33,585
  • Sep 24, 2008 6:36am Sep 24, 2008 6:36am
Quoting SpecialEd
Sorry to hear of your losses today Morton82. I've had the same hunch all night, that it's going up, but there's been more pressure down than up, I think. Take a look a the H4 and tell me if you think that is a descending triangle. If so, that would lean toward a downward breakout soon, wouldn't it?
4 hour just about to bounce off 20SMA (center BB) looks primed for bullish continuation, but hard to say with more than 60% confidence as MACD is rolling over.
  • #33,586
  • Sep 24, 2008 6:39am Sep 24, 2008 6:39am
Last week I bought into EURO and AUD and wanted to wait a week to see what would happen. My shortsightedness and over hyped messages I read got me second guessing myself and cost me a couple thousand is profit. I should have stuck to my guns. It's weird how the subconscience is affected....
  • #33,587
  • Sep 24, 2008 6:40am Sep 24, 2008 6:40am
Quoting TIckerShuffl
4 hour just about to bounce off 20SMA (center BB) looks primed for bullish continuation, but hard to say with more than 60% confidence as MACD is rolling over.
TickerShuffl, your response to my descending triangle question just about sums up the night for those of us foolish enough to watch. It looks like it's going up. It should go up, but then it crashes back down. 4643 has been some fierce support.

Thank you.
Ed
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  • #33,588
  • Sep 24, 2008 6:44am Sep 24, 2008 6:44am
Seriously, i have never seen such little movement from europe till us open. Big moves might occur later after us open.

The longer the consolidation, the faster the breakout. I hope i am on the right train to catch back all losses.

It's really a joke for me to lose more than the daily range. Reason is simple - I am over-gambling today.
  • #33,589
  • Sep 24, 2008 6:45am Sep 24, 2008 6:45am
well up to test 1.4700 again...took a nice little nap in the past 2 hours and got woken up by alarm..my stop loss almost got hit....thankfully this thing aint got enough steam in it not even to hunt sl

i wouldnt say this is a break up either until 1.4700 gets taken out decisively
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  • #33,590
  • Sep 24, 2008 6:46am Sep 24, 2008 6:46am
This is huge news if it's accurate. It seems EU will get past the worst without lowering interest rates.

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ECB's Bonello Says Economy to Be Past Worst in Fourth Quarter

Sept. 24 (Bloomberg) -- European Central Bank Governing Council member Michael Bonello said the euro region's economy will probably recover in the fourth quarter, suggesting he sees no need to lower interest rates after the global credit squeeze worsened.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...cLA&refer=home
  • #33,591
  • Sep 24, 2008 6:50am Sep 24, 2008 6:50am
Quoting mikkom
This tells lot about what economists think about the bailout bill

http://faculty.chicagogsb.edu/john.c...ge_protest.htm

Paulson and Brenanke are threatening a recession if congress doesn't intervene, but really their plan isn't to help the American people as it does nothing for people who cant pay their debts. This plan that Paulson and Brenanke are putting forth to congress and the American people is just using taxpayer dollars to prop up and clean up the balance sheets on Wall Street.

If it was up to me, I'd let most those companies crumble, clean up the balance sheets the old fashion way, while infusing that 700 billion dollars to the American people so they can pay off their debts. Its all freshly printed money anyways... really I think this is just another reason for Mr. Brenanke to prink a shit load of new money. Whats it at now like 1.4 trillion dollars in the past couple months?

The credit default swaps which got the housing and finacial market in this mess in the first place is like 50 trillion dollars, nearly doubled since last year... I cant see how 700 billion could help in the long run... unless their planing on looking to taxpayers for further help.

Im worried that if congress gives these men the funds they seek, that they will just create a hollow shell within a years time slowly extracting all their money out of whatever companies they helped bailout, leaving that shell to be filled up by the poor American taxpayers. This situation needs to be closely watched over and monitored so America doesn't suffer in the long run, but rather prospers. But I dont think thats going to happen since their current proposal still wants to pay the dumb CEO's of these companies compensation... what do they need compensation for... what about compensation for the people who are losing their jobs and home cause of this mess?

Let the Markets crumble and buy out these investment and insurance companies for 70 billion in two three months time... Right now... we're just putting lipstick on a pig... but its still a pig. lol
  • #33,592
  • Sep 24, 2008 6:58am Sep 24, 2008 6:58am
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  • #33,593
  • Sep 24, 2008 7:01am Sep 24, 2008 7:01am
Quoting mikkom
This is huge news if it's accurate. It seems EU will get past the worst without lowering interest rates.

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ECB's Bonello Says Economy to Be Past Worst in Fourth Quarter

Sept. 24 (Bloomberg) -- European Central Bank Governing Council member Michael Bonello said the euro region's economy will probably recover in the fourth quarter, suggesting he sees no need to lower interest rates after the global credit squeeze worsened.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...cLA&refer=home
This mean that will be worse than expected
  • #33,594
  • Sep 24, 2008 7:03am Sep 24, 2008 7:03am
Quoting 5ysfx
This mean that will be worse than expected
Sorry I don't follow you, what will be worse?
  • #33,595
  • Sep 24, 2008 7:06am Sep 24, 2008 7:06am
Quoting mikkom
Sorry I don't follow you, what will be worse?

I think he means their all liars... lol and their trying to trick us.
  • #33,596
  • Sep 24, 2008 7:14am Sep 24, 2008 7:14am
Quoting Praafit
I think he means their all liars... lol and their trying to trick us.
got my point

Quoting mikkom
Sorry I don't follow you, what will be worse?
"European Central Bank Governing Council member Michael Bonello said the euro region's economy will probably recover in the fourth quarter"

worse than expect meant = eurozone economy wont recover and will be worse than they "expect"
  • #33,597
  • Sep 24, 2008 7:14am Sep 24, 2008 7:14am
Quoting Praafit
Paulson and Brenanke are threatening a recession if congress doesn't intervene, but really their plan isn't to help the American people as it does nothing for people who cant pay their debts. This plan that Paulson and Brenanke are putting forth to congress and the American people is just using taxpayer dollars to prop up and clean up the balance sheets on Wall Street.

If it was up to me, I'd let most those companies crumble, clean up the balance sheets the old fashion way, while infusing that 700 billion dollars to the American people so they can pay off their debts. Its all freshly printed money anyways... really I think this is just another reason for Mr. Brenanke to prink a shit load of new money. Whats it at now like 1.4 trillion dollars in the past couple months?

The credit default swaps which got the housing and finacial market in this mess in the first place is like 50 trillion dollars, nearly doubled since last year... I cant see how 700 billion could help in the long run... unless their planing on looking to taxpayers for further help.

Im worried that if congress gives these men the funds they seek, that they will just create a hollow shell within a years time slowly extracting all their money out of whatever companies they helped bailout, leaving that shell to be filled up by the poor American taxpayers. This situation needs to be closely watched over and monitored so America doesn't suffer in the long run, but rather prospers. But I dont think thats going to happen since their current proposal still wants to pay the dumb CEO's of these companies compensation... what do they need compensation for... what about compensation for the people who are losing their jobs and home cause of this mess?

Let the Markets crumble and buy out these investment and insurance companies for 70 billion in two three months time... Right now... we're just putting lipstick on a pig... but its still a pig. lol
America could reinvent it's who energy infrastructure with that kind of money, this bailout is PURE BS!! It's awful to think USA is just a bunch of f'n liars who want to screw over the next guy.
  • #33,598
  • Sep 24, 2008 7:26am Sep 24, 2008 7:26am
Funny how that felt like such a large move after today's "volatility".

Yay for large lot sizes, I suppose.
  • #33,599
  • Sep 24, 2008 7:27am Sep 24, 2008 7:27am
Trying to get through the 50% fib from yesterday's range (1.4724). Also broke through the upper wall of my downward channel, which started on 9/22 (two hole days!). Is that a real breakout, or do the bears get their turn real soon, consistent with what we've seen the past 8 hours?

WTFKs?
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  • #33,600
  • Edited 7:43am Sep 24, 2008 7:32am | Edited 7:43am
Correction - actually, looking at the M30 timeframe, it has not yet broken the upper wall. Looks like Algirdas' most recent post (which was consistent with his position of 15 hours ago) might be the most accurate prediction of the future at this time.

The grass is still very short and the paint is still very sticky.

Edit: 1.4748 is 61.8% Fib from yesterday's hi-lo. Bounce down from there? Probably news- or helicopter-dependent.
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