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  • #28,521
  • Sep 9, 2008 10:41am Sep 9, 2008 10:41am
Quoting kasper
okay .. board opinion time.

should the US government spend the taxpayers' money to save the big financial institutions?
I want to extend this question: Will this be enough to get back stability? I don't think so... It's just another money drain.
  • #28,522
  • Sep 9, 2008 10:44am Sep 9, 2008 10:44am
Quoting Xaron
I want to extend this question: Will this be enough to get back stability? I don't think so... It's just another money drain.
How can they save money which have been never existed at all ?
  • #28,523
  • Sep 9, 2008 10:46am Sep 9, 2008 10:46am
Quoting kasper
okay .. board opinion time.

should the US government spend the taxpayers' money to save the big financial institutions?

I would say no. otherwise we wont get the market correction we need. With the exception of Fanny and Freddie, i think the goverment should have stayed out of it.

Atlas Shrugged

"Who's John Galt?"
Redefining Reality
  • #28,524
  • Sep 9, 2008 10:47am Sep 9, 2008 10:47am
Quoting Xaron
I want to extend this question: Will this be enough to get back stability? I don't think so... It's just another money drain.
I agree. it'll just push our deficit higher and eventually have the same result as if we didnt help.
  • #28,525
  • Sep 9, 2008 10:50am Sep 9, 2008 10:50am
Phoney and Fraudie are probably responsible for the majority of the housing bubble, so what do we do? We bail them out(For now). They were giving loans to anybody and everybody. They have 5.3 trillion dollars worth of debt
at 80:1 leverage. If 1% of those loans go bad they will be wiped out.
Never fear when Hank Paulsons near!
Help!
  • #28,526
  • Sep 9, 2008 10:53am Sep 9, 2008 10:53am
Citigroup announces that Lehman might issue today their quartely results... take care, these might be NOT that negative.

EDIT: I've read it here: http://www.serenitymarkets.com/index.asp.

I'm seeking for the news in English.
  • #28,527
  • Sep 9, 2008 10:54am Sep 9, 2008 10:54am
Quoting 5ysfx
How can they save money which have been never existed at all ?

I know where you get these thoughts. I can agree, but it is not a question of whether the money is "real", it is perceived real as long as you can exchange it for food, clothing and shelter.

The question is how much time do you have to spend to earn a loaf a bread, time is real to us mortals, the only thing of true value is time, and thats what your true basis is.

Then some question if time is real, lol, but that is not the topic of discussion.
Redefining Reality
  • #28,528
  • Sep 9, 2008 11:01am Sep 9, 2008 11:01am
Quoting piptechnician
I know where you get these thoughts. I can agree, but it is not a question of whether the money is "real", it is perceived real as long as you can exchange it for food, clothing and shelter.

The question is how much time do you have to spend to earn a loaf a bread, time is real to us mortals, the only thing of true value is time, and thats what your true basis is.

Then some question if time is real, lol, but that is not the topic of discussion.

Agree this is not proper thread to discuss this matter.
Im still buying my future time trading on fx market.





"Never fear when Hank Paulsons near!"

good one
  • #28,529
  • Sep 9, 2008 11:03am Sep 9, 2008 11:03am
Quoting piptechnician
Atlas Shrugged

"Who's John Galt?"

I've been 'shrugging' at that question for a long time.
  • #28,530
  • Sep 9, 2008 11:05am Sep 9, 2008 11:05am
i just stepped out for a class and before i came back those euro bulls had eaten my money.is this a confirmed bull run or just a minor retracment.i am really crying here.
  • #28,531
  • Sep 9, 2008 11:06am Sep 9, 2008 11:06am
Quoting oolides
i just stepped out for a class and before i came back those euro bulls had eaten my money.is this a confirmed bull run or just a minor retracment.i am really crying here.
Retracement!! Hopefully. . .

We bounced from the 38.2 from 4428 to 4046. We're going after that low again--let's break it this time!!
  • #28,532
  • Sep 9, 2008 11:16am Sep 9, 2008 11:16am
Quoting 4xisfun
Retracement!! Hopefully. . .

We bounced from the 38.2 from 4428 to 4046. We're going after that low again--let's break it this time!!
so is it possible to still stay shorts
  • #28,533
  • Sep 9, 2008 11:17am Sep 9, 2008 11:17am
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  • #28,534
  • Sep 9, 2008 11:20am Sep 9, 2008 11:20am
possible double top on 5minute

edit:nevermind..
  • #28,535
  • Sep 9, 2008 11:21am Sep 9, 2008 11:21am
Quoting oolides
i just stepped out for a class and before i came back those euro bulls had eaten my money.is this a confirmed bull run or just a minor retracment.i am really crying here.
First of all, not forgetting long term down trend (on hourly) still intact. So likely a retracement....as of now.
Now for short term, Triple bottom formed on Hourly chart, possible short term bullrun. Might test 1st resistance 1.42. Break it might carry it further up to ard 1.43.
  • #28,536
  • Sep 9, 2008 11:23am Sep 9, 2008 11:23am
he has made the second retest to the daily pivot today...



bounce bounce bounce.....
  • #28,537
  • Sep 9, 2008 11:25am Sep 9, 2008 11:25am
whenever this does drop it should drop hard and fast...
  • #28,538
  • Sep 9, 2008 11:35am Sep 9, 2008 11:35am
The upward move was caused by a spike in oil prices. Let's see how this develops....

I see a bullish flag on the minute charts


http://www.livecharts.co.uk/MarketCharts/crude.php
  • #28,539
  • Sep 9, 2008 11:35am Sep 9, 2008 11:35am
Quoting akirax
whenever this does drop it should drop hard and fast...
you and many other people are hoping. i'm just patiently watching. might be done for the day, hit my daily quota.
  • #28,540
  • Sep 9, 2008 11:35am Sep 9, 2008 11:35am
Quoting boardslide
he has made the second retest to the daily pivot today...



bounce bounce bounce.....
Could you tell me where the pivot is, please?
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