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  • #141
  • Jun 13, 2008 8:23am Jun 13, 2008 8:23am
The rest of the charts
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  • #142
  • Jun 13, 2008 4:00pm Jun 13, 2008 4:00pm
not sure why it would nt have. I believe you wanted the close of the candle to be below the gold so it may not have. ALso, on the ma cross does it have to confirm with a complete closs or just have a touch cross?
hmm debate, debate debate....!!!
Also, I am leaning toward a 4 bar lookback as probably the best. I really like this sytem. thanks for all the input so far especially from endroute..i think I will go live next week with a micro .05 -.15 cts per pip to test it out on the 1 hour.
should be fun!
  • #143
  • Jun 13, 2008 5:22pm Jun 13, 2008 5:22pm
Hey guys I will try to begin posting charts as I take trades next week, this should help to clear up any confusion, I hope.
  • #144
  • Jun 13, 2008 8:55pm Jun 13, 2008 8:55pm
thanks, if there are any trades you don't take with a cross, I appreciate your feedback. I think this system is very good.
  • #145
  • Jun 13, 2008 9:38pm Jun 13, 2008 9:38pm
If you don't mind my asking, how did you fare this past week, endroute (wins vs. losses, net pips, and did you trade mainly 1H or 4H or a combination)?

Also, can you quantify how many bars back you will allow for a cross of the upper/lower green COG and it still be a valid signal? I see 4xWeezal thinks 4 bars makes the most sense. I had sort of planned to set my EA on 6 for next week to allow it a little more latitude. Do you have a recommendation?

Thanks,
Scott

Quoting endroute
Hey guys I will try to begin posting charts as I take trades next week, this should help to clear up any confusion, I hope.
Prices are never too high to begin buying or too low to begin selling.
  • #146
  • Jun 14, 2008 12:05am Jun 14, 2008 12:05am
As for non-trending (aka) ranging mkt..i suggest u should use ADX for filter out...



sonic
  • #147
  • Edited 9:53am Jun 14, 2008 6:14am | Edited 9:53am
Hi guys... just to add on some indi to this system... this works great for me... I'm using 1H chart... sometimes 15 min TF... I add 3 indi just work great when you combine with this system... 1) Gan HiLo (10)... (2) MACD color ( 5,13,1 )... (3) Lagguerre 0.6....

Rules still same...Sell when price closed over green line/orange line of COG.. may be to wait EMA crossed it's take time... so you can enter first lot when price closed below line Gan HiLo, Lagguere pointed down below 0.85, MACD red color pointed down or crossed zero... Normally when EMA crossed price sometimes retrace and try to test again swing high before... Enter 1 more lot when price goes same direction as EMA...

Exit strategy...
1) Close first lot when price closed below bottom green line/ orange line of COG
2) Remain lot exit when at divergence situation or reverse signal ... price closed over Gan Hilo/ Lagguerre pointed up from 0.15/ MACD crossed above 0 or EMA crossed opposite direction...

for Buy viceversa.. Here I attach the situation where to enter trade and exit trade... red line sell... blue line buy... sori my english...
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  • #148
  • Jun 14, 2008 6:18am Jun 14, 2008 6:18am
Whoa... you just took a very simple system and made it complicated.

Just how much better results are you getting with it?

Scott

Quoting Roselyn
Hi guys... just to add on some indi to this system... this works great for me... I'm using 1H chart... sometimes 15 min TF... I add 3 indi just work great when you combine with this system... 1) Gan HiLo (10)... (2) MACD color ( 5,13,1 )... (3) Lagguerre 0.6....

Rules still same...Sell when price closed over green line/orange line of COG.. may be to wait EMA crossed it's take time... so you can enter first lot when price closed below line Gan HiLo, Lagguere pointed down below 0.85, MACD red color pointed down or crossed zero... Normally when EMA crossed price sometimes retrace and try to test again swing high before... Enter 1 more lot when price goes same direction as EMA...

Exit strategy...
1) Close first lot when price closed below bottom green line/ orange line of COG
2) Remain lot exit when at divergence situation or reverse signal ... price closed over Gan Hilo/ Lagguerre pointed up from 0.15/ MACD crossed above 0 or EMA crossed opposite direction...

for Buy viceversa.. Here I attach the situation where to enter trade and exit trade... red line sell... blue line buy... sori my english...
Prices are never too high to begin buying or too low to begin selling.
  • #149
  • Jun 14, 2008 6:44am Jun 14, 2008 6:44am
Quoting thehenryfam
Whoa... you just took a very simple system and made it complicated.

Just how much better results are you getting with it?

Scott
I know this is simple system... for me before i use this system i'm also try auslanco's strategy that use Gan HiLo... Imran... Lagguerre and 4H MACD by Philips... so when i see i got early signal from gan hi lo and Lag i enter the trade... when ema crossed so i know i'm in the right track... so i add on one more lot... exit strategy... depends on person... just to share my strategy...
  • #150
  • Jun 14, 2008 9:11am Jun 14, 2008 9:11am
Quoting Roselyn
I know this is simple system... for me before i use this system i'm also try auslanco's strategy that use Gan HiLo... Imran... Lagguerre and 4H MACD by Philips... so when i see i got early signal from gan hi lo and Lag i enter the trade... when ema crossed so i know i'm in the right track... so i add on one more lot... exit strategy... depends on person... just to share my strategy...
Roselyn, the lag_exp_1b1.mq4 you attached is an EA not an indicator
  • #151
  • Jun 14, 2008 9:56am Jun 14, 2008 9:56am
Quoting shiva
Roselyn, the lag_exp_1b1.mq4 you attached is an EA not an indicator
Sorry... my mistake... already edit the indicator for Lagguere.... see my previous attachments...
  • #152
  • Jun 14, 2008 11:51am Jun 14, 2008 11:51am
Quoting Roselyn
Sorry... my mistake... already edit the indicator for Lagguere.... see my previous attachments...
Thank you Roselyn
  • #153
  • Edited 1:40pm Jun 14, 2008 1:02pm | Edited 1:40pm
thanks roselyn... i will be adding those into system.
ive never used gan/ hi/lo so that is something new....
wonderful thread.
also, i think lag would be under .60 or it might be late for a long / thoughts on that
--- lot of good confirming signals.
i think just a touch to the mov average with the rest will be great. the macd seems a little excessive as there are some big crosses. thoughts on the retrace of those
thanks again roselyn
  • #154
  • Jun 14, 2008 3:15pm Jun 14, 2008 3:15pm
Quoting Roselyn
Hi guys... just to add on some indi to this system... this works great for me... I'm using 1H chart... sometimes 15 min TF... I add 3 indi just work great when you combine with this system... 1) Gan HiLo (10)... (2) MACD color ( 5,13,1 )... (3) Lagguerre 0.6....

Rules still same...Sell when price closed over green line/orange line of COG.. may be to wait EMA crossed it's take time... so you can enter first lot when price closed below line Gan HiLo, Lagguere pointed down below 0.85, MACD red color pointed down or crossed zero... Normally when EMA crossed price sometimes retrace and try to test again swing high before... Enter 1 more lot when price goes same direction as EMA...

Exit strategy...
1) Close first lot when price closed below bottom green line/ orange line of COG
2) Remain lot exit when at divergence situation or reverse signal ... price closed over Gan Hilo/ Lagguerre pointed up from 0.15/ MACD crossed above 0 or EMA crossed opposite direction...

for Buy viceversa.. Here I attach the situation where to enter trade and exit trade... red line sell... blue line buy... sori my english...


What EMAs are you using in the indicator EMA Cross
  • #155
  • Jun 15, 2008 2:56am Jun 15, 2008 2:56am
On paper this is a really good system I like the cog giving an indication to the ema
Can I suggest that an exit point initially should be the other green line unless the crossover takes place before that point.
Looking at the relevant currencies they appear to bounce of the opposite green line.
This of course is looking at the static charts and have still to see what happens when the cog as be redrawn during active trading
  • #156
  • Jun 15, 2008 4:31am Jun 15, 2008 4:31am
Friends,
I'm writing my very own opinion, and you don't have to agree with me, but I think that we have a problem.
Lately,some people here, took a very simple yet profitable system, and before trading the system live for even a week, started hacking, "improving", customizing, adding indicators, etc, etc, etc.
I don't think that was the initial reason for endroute to establish this tread. He wanted the system to remain intact and asked for assistance building an EA for the system.
I think this is the way must of the subscribers of this thread want things to remain. Simple and profitable. If you want to build your own complicated yet non profitable proven system, go ahead. Create a new thread.
SeekingLight, One of the best writers in FF wrote about this phenomenon. Take a minute and read his excellent post http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=88957. read the first and the seventh posts.
As I said, this is my opinion and it represents my feeling, unless you share it and agree with me.
BR
Dani M
  • #157
  • Jun 15, 2008 11:29am Jun 15, 2008 11:29am
I was thinking the exact same thing, Dani. Out of respect for endroute and his original system, if people are going to be adding a bunch of indicators and other stuff, they need to start a new thread because at that point it becomes a NEW system and shouldn't be confused with the system originally presented in this thread. All it does is create confusion for everyone following the thread. The fact is that endroute says he has been successful for several months (live) with the system he presented in the first post, and we need to let THAT system run its course here before tampering with it. Just my $.02.

Scott

Quoting dan_mir
Friends,
I'm writing my very own opinion, and you don't have to agree with me, but I think that we have a problem.
Lately,some people here, took a very simple yet profitable system, and before trading the system live for even a week, started hacking, "improving", customizing, adding indicators, etc, etc, etc.
I don't think that was the initial reason for endroute to establish this tread. He wanted the system to remain intact and asked for assistance building an EA for the system.
I think this is the way must of the subscribers of this thread want things to remain. Simple and profitable. If you want to build your own complicated yet non profitable proven system, go ahead. Create a new thread.
SeekingLight, One of the best writers in FF wrote about this phenomenon. Take a minute and read his excellent post http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=88957. read the first and the seventh posts.
As I said, this is my opinion and it represents my feeling, unless you share it and agree with me.
BR
Dani M
Prices are never too high to begin buying or too low to begin selling.
  • #158
  • Jun 15, 2008 2:36pm Jun 15, 2008 2:36pm
Dear Thread,

Being an eSignal guy, can anyone point me in the right direction for the COG? And, if not, what is a proper replacement for it?

Thanks,

Lenoxer
  • #159
  • Edited Jun 16, 2008 1:14am Jun 15, 2008 11:42pm | Edited Jun 16, 2008 1:14am
I see your point guys but with all due respect I think Roselyn was just pointing out something that is working well for her/him(?).

Take it or leave it no one told you you had to use Roselyns ideas. I don't think you should jump Roselyns back until the creator of this thread has had time to respond to her ideas.

Have you even tested it yourself?

If you can't take this information in, test it yourself and then make your own opinion on what to do then why are you even trading?

Personally I haven't tested it either... for now I am sticking with the original idea to see how it goes. And guess what if it fails I know theres a post there with a fresh new approach to try.

If we are too scared to share our ideas for the fear of being shut down by posts such as yours then how can we ever be dynamic in this dynamic environment we work in.

Just my opinion I would be interested to know endroutes opinion on this.

Endroute?
Time hides Nothing
  • #160
  • Jun 16, 2008 1:10am Jun 16, 2008 1:10am
Quoting CindyXXXX
I see your point guys but with all due respect I think Roselyn was just pointing out something that is working well for her/him(?).

Take it or leave it no one told you you had to use Roselyns ideas. I don't think you should jump Roselyns back until the creator of this thread has had time to respond to her ideas.

Have you even tested it yourself?

If you can't take this information in, test it yourself and then make your own opinion on what to do then why are you even trading?

Personally I haven't tersted it either... for now I am sticking with the original idea to see how it goes. And guess what if it fails I know theres a post there with a fresh new approach to try.

If we are too scared to share our ideas for the fear of being shut down by posts such as yours then how can we ever be dynamic in this dynamic environment we work in.

Just my .02 cents I would be interested to know he endroutes opinion on this.

Endroute?
I'm inclined to disagree Cindy. I reckon we should let this system run its course before changing it beyond recognition. After all, if it as good as endroute appears to suggest, I would rather we ironed out any deficincies in the way we apply it rather than clutter it beyond recognition. Just an opinion.
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