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  • #321
  • Edited 3:14pm Dec 30, 2007 3:02pm | Edited 3:14pm
Crapola, if I'm looking at that correctly, it opened on the last red bar.

Now, if that is one of the EAs that are U primary or V primary, that would be expected as the other two red bars look equal.

The date is also weird. I didn't release any EAs for TrendHugger before December 5...My first TrendHugger EAs came out Dec. 19.

My data (NorthFinance) says:

12/5/2007 at 01:00 OSMA = -0.256
12/5/2007 at 00:00 OSMA = -0.255
12/4/2007 at 23:00 OSMA = -0.255
12/4/2007 at 22:00 OSMA = -0.257

Equal bars there make an inverted "U" , Bollinger Squeeze says sell...

From what I can tell, it entered properly, it didn't stop and reverse like it should have.

Which EA are you using?
Also, are you using my version of Bollinger squeeze? I had to modify the original indicator in order for it to interface better with the EA.
  • #322
  • Dec 30, 2007 7:29pm Dec 30, 2007 7:29pm
Quoting Ronald Raygun
Crapola, if I'm looking at that correctly, it opened on the last red bar.

Now, if that is one of the EAs that are U primary or V primary, that would be expected as the other two red bars look equal.

The date is also weird. I didn't release any EAs for TrendHugger before December 5...My first TrendHugger EAs came out Dec. 19.

My data (NorthFinance) says:

12/5/2007 at 01:00 OSMA = -0.256
12/5/2007 at 00:00 OSMA = -0.255
12/4/2007 at 23:00 OSMA = -0.255
12/4/2007 at 22:00 OSMA = -0.257
I used a data feed from ODL Securities for backtesting. Clearly the data is different. Here are mine:

dec 5th 01:00 -.259
dec 5th 00:00 -.257
dec 4th 23:00 -.256
dec 4th 22:00 -.256

The only thing I can think of is the modeling quality of the data. I should probably just run it through forward testing to see how it does.

Quoting Ronald Raygun
Equal bars there make an inverted "U" , Bollinger Squeeze says sell...

From what I can tell, it entered properly, it didn't stop and reverse like it should have.

Which EA are you using?
Also, are you using my version of Bollinger squeeze? I had to modify the original indicator in order for it to interface better with the EA.

I was using the crapola version. Also, I didn't realize that the indicator was different. I'll try that one and let you know how it goes. Thanks again for spending the time putting this together.
crapola
  • #323
  • Dec 31, 2007 3:19pm Dec 31, 2007 3:19pm
OK with all the latest and greatest modifications and versions which ones should I load up or are they all neccessary?

thanks
T
  • #324
  • Dec 31, 2007 5:33pm Dec 31, 2007 5:33pm
I personally don't believe in the "U" formation entries, and I'm just running a plain vanilla system. Just the way TKimble likes it. (The first OSMA-based system)
  • #325
  • Jan 2, 2008 10:44am Jan 2, 2008 10:44am
Quoting Ronald Raygun
I personally don't believe in the "U" formation entries, and I'm just running a plain vanilla system. Just the way TKimble likes it. (The first OSMA-based system)
But your first EA was based on 3 bar formation which is 'V' shaped..So r u saying u go with that or maybe there is another EA i dont have...Please clarify....Thanx
  • #326
  • Jan 2, 2008 11:00am Jan 2, 2008 11:00am
I guess to not confuse anyone is to attach the EA with the required indicators so not to mix with others. And if the indicator was modified, maybe attach a version or something, and reference in the EA.
  • #327
  • Jan 2, 2008 4:31pm Jan 2, 2008 4:31pm
MMk, here's a rundown of the EAs.

Version 1:This version uses only the "V" formation

(Post 291)
http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...&postcount=291
(Post 293)
http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...&postcount=293

Version 2:This version looks for the Equal bar system. Either primarily a V formation, or primarily a U formation. (Based on the title).

(Post 311)
http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...&postcount=311

Version 3: This version uses the bollinger squeeze method to filter out any sideways movement.

(Post 319)
http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...&postcount=319

OSMA-BasedCrapolaU_Primary uses the U Primary method with the bolinger squeeze.

OSMA-BasedCrapolaV_Primary uses the V Primary method with the bollinger squeeze.

Bollinger Squeeze v7 is my version which is required for any of these EAs to work. Make sure that this is in the indicator folder.

OSMA-BasedCrapola is the V only method like version 1.




That should be a complete listing of all the versions I made.



I use the OSMA-Based EA as it works best for me. Quite minimal and easy to hunt for bugs when debugging. Just now I closed on a 250 pip gain, so. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
  • #328
  • Jan 2, 2008 4:36pm Jan 2, 2008 4:36pm
Nice work, kid!

Quoting Ronald Raygun
MMk, here's a rundown of the EAs.

Version 1:This version uses only the "V" formation

(Post 291)
http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...&postcount=291
(Post 293)
http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...&postcount=293

Version 2:This version looks for the Equal bar system. Either primarily a V formation, or primarily a U formation. (Based on the title).

(Post 311)
http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...&postcount=311

Version 3: This version uses the bollinger squeeze method to filter out any sideways movement.

(Post 319)
http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...&postcount=319

OSMA-BasedCrapolaU_Primary uses the U Primary method with the bolinger squeeze.

OSMA-BasedCrapolaV_Primary uses the V Primary method with the bollinger squeeze.

Bollinger Squeeze v7 is my version which is required for any of these EAs to work. Make sure that this is in the indicator folder.

OSMA-BasedCrapola is the V only method like version 1.




That should be a complete listing of all the versions I made.



I use the OSMA-Based EA as it works best for me. Quite minimal and easy to hunt for bugs when debugging. Just now I closed on a 250 pip gain, so. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
  • #329
  • Jan 2, 2008 5:00pm Jan 2, 2008 5:00pm
I just realized I went through 7 EAs, phew!

Although just to clarify, I'm using version 1 on a live account.

Just like I say: If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
  • #330
  • Jan 2, 2008 5:06pm Jan 2, 2008 5:06pm
Quoting Ronald Raygun
I just realized I went through 7 EAs, phew!

Although just to clarify, I'm using version 1 on a live account.

Just like I say: If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Are you using the MACD or the OSMA version? Or does it even make any difference?
  • #331
  • Jan 2, 2008 8:31pm Jan 2, 2008 8:31pm
Yep! MACD and OSMA are exactly the same thing. The only real difference is the position relative to 0

Since this trading system is looking for a particular shape, it doesn't matter which you use. Although I prefer OSMA primarily because it's easier to program with.
  • #332
  • Jan 3, 2008 9:20pm Jan 3, 2008 9:20pm
Hi Ronald,
What sort of results have you had with the OSMA version 1 EA?

What pairs are you trading live?

Just started testing last night with two small losses in a row so would be comforting to see how you have gone over a longer period of time

Thanks

Steve
  • #333
  • Jan 3, 2008 11:12pm Jan 3, 2008 11:12pm
I am trading with an $1000 account using the original EA I programmed.

My results are pretty modest myself. The Ea was active since 12/25/2007 and has since gone from $1000 to 1220.36. A very modest return, but certainly much better than other things I'm doing.

The profit factor thus far is 2.4 That means that for every dollar I lose, I make $2.40.

This is running on a 1 HR tf of GBPJPY and it's working fine for me. It seems to miss a few signals, but I'm guessing that's a result of repainting.
  • #334
  • Jan 4, 2008 12:06am Jan 4, 2008 12:06am
Hello Ronald,
I know it's only a short amount of time, but a 22% return in a little over a week, during the holidays, is hardly a modest return. But then what is one to expect from a former leader of the free world.
Roy
  • #335
  • Jan 4, 2008 5:31am Jan 4, 2008 5:31am
Quoting Ronald Raygun
I am trading with an $1000 account using the original EA I programmed.

My results are pretty modest myself. The Ea was active since 12/25/2007 and has since gone from $1000 to 1220.36. A very modest return, but certainly much better than other things I'm doing.

The profit factor thus far is 2.4 That means that for every dollar I lose, I make $2.40.

This is running on a 1 HR tf of GBPJPY and it's working fine for me. It seems to miss a few signals, but I'm guessing that's a result of repainting.
I use the same EA too on my live acct..givin me superb results,but i put it on a 30min chart instead..i glanced through the charts manualy with the Osma on both 1hr and 30min and noticed though the 30min gave u more frequent trades and hence liable to give me more whpsaw than the 1hr but on the other side it gave better entry points than the 1hr chart..so on the whole i think the 30min will still outperform the 1hr over a long period of time..just my opinion though....PLUS thanx for the EA ronald
  • #336
  • Edited 5:32pm Jan 4, 2008 1:58pm | Edited 5:32pm
Not a problem at all and you're all very welcome.

Just a reminder: I am not liable for any damages you may incur be it monetary, physical, emotional or otherwise.

USE THESE EAs AT YOUR OWN RISK

I am still demoing another setup where I put the EA on a 15 min chart and set up the OSMA as if it were a 1 hr chart. That way, the EA checks the 1 hr OSMA every 15 mins.

That account made only $110, but if you're right about the holidays, then I see greener pastures.


Quoting eroyh
Hello Ronald,
I know it's only a short amount of time, but a 22% return in a little over a week, during the holidays, is hardly a modest return. But then what is one to expect from a former leader of the free world.
Roy

I guess in forex, 22% is amazing, but is it sustainable?
  • #337
  • Jan 4, 2008 6:20pm Jan 4, 2008 6:20pm
What trailing stop, hard stop loss, and take profit are you all using for the 30 min and 1 hr time frames on the EA?
crapola
  • #338
  • Jan 4, 2008 6:37pm Jan 4, 2008 6:37pm
50 pip stop, no trailing, take profit at opposite signal and 1 Hr on my live account, 1 hr every 15 min on a demo.
  • #339
  • Jan 4, 2008 9:02pm Jan 4, 2008 9:02pm
Quoting Ronald Raygun
50 pip stop, no trailing, take profit at opposite signal and 1 Hr on my live account, 1 hr every 15 min on a demo.
Thanks Ronald. One thing.... if your exits are on opposite signal only, I found that there are several times (i.e. on a 400 pip profit) that signal will reach after quite a large drop which is why, I believe, TK recommended a 150 pip TS. Have you tried that with the EA?

Mark
crapola
  • #340
  • Jan 4, 2008 9:57pm Jan 4, 2008 9:57pm
I haven't run my Ea with a ts. If you feel it's necessary, then by all means. Go ahead. Frankly, I'll settle for any amount of consistent pips. It beats 0 or even negative.
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