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  • #541
  • Aug 27, 2007 7:49pm Aug 27, 2007 7:49pm
What is the average return on this strategy yearly? I have a managed account manager that hedges and I get 50-70% yearly on my money. Can this beat that?
  • #542
  • Aug 28, 2007 1:03am Aug 28, 2007 1:03am
Quoting gio9
What is the average return on this strategy yearly? I have a managed account manager that hedges and I get 50-70% yearly on my money. Can this beat that?

u get 50-70% a yr n u asking for more? lol invest in 1million n with ur hedging account, u dun haf to work anymore... wat manage account u using?
  • #543
  • Aug 28, 2007 3:15am Aug 28, 2007 3:15am
Cant post websites here.. pm me for traders info. I'm not asking for higher returns than that. .. just wondering what you could expect in returns from this strategy. I've been with the manager for 6 months personally. I am always looking into diversification no matter how good an investment is doing for me.......
  • #544
  • Aug 29, 2007 7:46pm Aug 29, 2007 7:46pm
Quoting gio9
What is the average return on this strategy yearly? I have a managed account manager that hedges and I get 50-70% yearly on my money. Can this beat that?
How much management fee is your account manager charging you? I'm assuming that the 50-70% yearly return is before management fees, but I could be wrong.

Personally I still don't like the idea of turning my money over to someone and relinquishing control. It just doesn't make me feel comfortable. I think you should always be 100% in control of your own trading capital, but that's just me.

-Dickens
  • #545
  • Aug 30, 2007 12:22am Aug 30, 2007 12:22am
Quoting Holypendant
got some question to ask some genius. You know people hedge currency like buy 1 lot gbp/yen sell 1 lot gbp/usd sell 1 lot usd/yen. becoz of price diff, end up it's actually usd/yen. so mind as well long usd/yen. swap will be much more also. correct me if i'm wrong. plus if i buy 1 mini lot with margin need is $50 per mini lot, i get $2.86 swap if i long gbp/usd alone. lets say i got balance wit $100000, i buy 1 lot everytime it drop 100 pip, wuldnt i be very safe? lets say i bought at highest which was 250.00 den it drop to lowest 220.00, i wuld haf entry about 30times which means 30lots. i use up margin $1500. avg bought wuld be ard 242.84. unrealised P/L 46500pip which is also $46500.

46500+1500= 48000. u still left 52k to play with it. plus the swap u take everyday is 61usd per day. 1 mth which means 1.8kusd. will tis work? isnt tis better than hedging here n there? any opinion?
I'm testing tis method of trading and i had some doubts. if ur profit is over 500pips, shld i close it and open another rate or shld i leave it open n collect swap? lol...
  • #546
  • May 30, 2008 3:43am May 30, 2008 3:43am
Am I missing something here?

I've found the ibfx mini & standard swap rates, and if you take this system with those rates you would have a negative swap.

I'm a newbie so if I didn't get it go easy on me
  • #547
  • Jun 22, 2008 10:53pm Jun 22, 2008 10:53pm
swaps change over time... this is an older thread

Quoting gekkowannabe
Am I missing something here?

I've found the ibfx mini & standard swap rates, and if you take this system with those rates you would have a negative swap.

I'm a newbie so if I didn't get it go easy on me
  • #548
  • Jul 10, 2008 10:14am Jul 10, 2008 10:14am
How can I get on this topic ? I'm interested in learning about the calculator. ther is any way I can get in to it?
there is any website? > Thanks for any respond.


Quoting Ghamm
Ok,
I just added Interest calculation.. Seems to work fine.. but again..its a beta..



Gordon
  • #549
  • Oct 8, 2009 4:25pm Oct 8, 2009 4:25pm
Quoting forexwoman
I have been doing carry trades live with real money since more than one year

My open positions are:
Buy GBPJPY 1 lot
Sell CHFJPY 2 lots
Sell GBPUSd 1 lots

I have seen a swing of negative as well as a positive difference of about 1000 pips i.e my account at a time was about -$ 10000 and another time was $ + $10000

Hi forexwoman!

Looks like you've changed your strategies from carry trades.
I wanted to start a strategy provided by neo1001
I'm curious to know why your not doing it anymore?
Too slow? Losses?
Any feedback would be greaty appreciated.

Thanks
  • #550
  • Oct 9, 2009 4:53pm Oct 9, 2009 4:53pm
Quoting neo1001
Hello Guys:

I wanted to share this strategy that I have been trading on my live account for about couple months. It has been very profitable and safe from all of the market movement and allows you to make daily swaps without having 2 broker accounts of risk a major drawdown. Anyone can start with this and gradually increase their position.

Basically you will set the following order and they have to be in the same ratio and placed within seconds of each other for maximize stability. I usually do this at 4:55 PM EST just before the swap being...
Hi neo.
I saw your website about trading when news releases.
I recently took a big dip (drawdown) the other day because of an economic meeting... G20 ?
I hope your still profiting from "the safe hedging system"
I want to do this for a long time... long term.
Do you think it's possible... Are you still using this system?
Any feedback would be helping me to succeed. Thanks
  • #551
  • Oct 10, 2009 3:02am Oct 10, 2009 3:02am
Quoting roy.jr
Hi forexwoman!

Looks like you've changed your strategies from carry trades.
I wanted to start a strategy provided by neo1001
I'm curious to know why your not doing it anymore?
Too slow? Losses?
Any feedback would be greaty appreciated.

Thanks
The strategy is no longer working as swaps are very little for these pairs
  • #552
  • Oct 11, 2009 1:07am Oct 11, 2009 1:07am
Quoting forexwoman
The strategy is no longer working as swaps are very little for these pairs
what about usd/zar pair?

Nice to hear from you!
  • #553
  • Oct 27, 2009 5:44pm Oct 27, 2009 5:44pm
if you want to try this system then

using status monitor to see if broker will pay you swap.

however most of broker do not paid swap, they want you to paid for it.
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  • #554
  • May 3, 2012 6:41pm May 3, 2012 6:41pm
Quoting mtuppers
if you want to try this system then

using status monitor to see if broker will pay you swap.

however most of broker do not paid swap, they want you to paid for it.
Hi every body

Can some one explain how they calculate swap
they must be changing swap + to - and - to +! Or If any broker give swap $1 one day then are they paying $1 all months how it work
sorry for english
thanks
  • #555
  • May 4, 2012 12:26am May 4, 2012 12:26am
Quoting himnoor
Hi every body

Can some one explain how they calculate swap
they must be changing swap + to - and - to +! Or If any broker give swap $1 one day then are they paying $1 all months how it work
sorry for english
thanks
At a set time every night your broker will add or subtract the swap. The interest rates for aud at the moment is 3.75. The interest rate for jpy is 0.1. If you have bought audjpy and you are holding it overnight you will recieve your position size + 3.75% for the aud you own and pay 0.1% on the jpy you are selling.

Brokers are well known for manipulating this figure and I'm sure they don't all pay you exactly what they should but an honest broker will pay you something in the ballpark of the above calculation.

Of course if you are selling aud and buying yen then you pay them the interest.
  • #556
  • May 4, 2012 12:30am May 4, 2012 12:30am
An interesting hedge at the moment is to wait until audjpy and nzdjpy have made a swing down and look like moving up then buy audjpy and nzdjpy and sell usdjpy and chfjpy. You are more or less hedged on the pairs you own, you will collect positive swap for every day you hold it open and as audjpy and nzdjpy appreciate the hedge goes positive due to imperfect correlations. The downside risk is fairly small and you can set yourself a limit you are willing to risk on the hedge and close out if it hits it. Rarely does, I do this every now and then when the conditions look right.
  • #557
  • Nov 4, 2012 7:13pm Nov 4, 2012 7:13pm
Quoting Hugh Briss
An interesting hedge at the moment is to wait until audjpy and nzdjpy have made a swing down and look like moving up then buy audjpy and nzdjpy and sell usdjpy and chfjpy. You are more or less hedged on the pairs you own, you will collect positive swap for every day you hold it open and as audjpy and nzdjpy appreciate the hedge goes positive due to imperfect correlations. The downside risk is fairly small and you can set yourself a limit you are willing to risk on the hedge and close out if it hits it. Rarely does, I do this every now and then when...
sounds interesting.
  • #558
  • Nov 28, 2012 3:36pm Nov 28, 2012 3:36pm
Quoting Hugh Briss
At a set time every night your broker will add or subtract the swap. The interest rates for aud at the moment is 3.75. The interest rate for jpy is 0.1. If you have bought audjpy and you are holding it overnight you will recieve your position size + 3.75% for the aud you own and pay 0.1% on the jpy you are selling.

Brokers are well known for manipulating this figure and I'm sure they don't all pay you exactly what they should but an honest broker will pay you something in the ballpark of the above calculation.

Of course if you are selling...
Thx Hugh I got it
  • #559
  • May 4, 2013 9:42am May 4, 2013 9:42am
''Another thing to watch out for when doing this trade is to do it on Wednesday, which is triple interest day. So it will pretty much cover your spread...''

-This comment was posted some time ago by Neo, he may not be around now, but can anyone
comment on what this top quote means ?

-Thank you, Gk.
  • #560
  • Feb 27, 2014 9:03am Feb 27, 2014 9:03am
Too bad, non of the hedge work for today market...
Patience, let the market come to you!
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