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  • #81
  • Edited 5:31am Sep 22, 2025 4:54am | Edited 5:31am
I just wanted to show the entry method. Otherwise, I didn't pay attention to the risk-to-reward ratio or what ratio it gave. It can be 1 to 1, 1 to 2, etc. Managing capital and trading style is up to you.

When a stop loss gets hit, I recommend waiting a bit for the market to form new highs and lows before trading again, because the market might be ranging
In the image below, the stop loss could have been adjusted slightly since it coincided with the close below the Kijun line. After that, you could monitor the market and exit the trade if another bearish candle appears. However, for now, I just want to explain the trading method and what might happen after the stop loss is triggered.

And it's not like we're supposed to just take a buy trade the moment the price goes back above the Tenkan and closes. Usually, the first trade after the price rises above the Kumo (the cloud) is considered "fresh" or new. After that, a positive close might happen, but the price could then reverse and give a bearish cross.
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  • #82
  • Sep 22, 2025 6:06am Sep 22, 2025 6:06am
This is the third trading opportunity based on the Tenkan since the price moved above the Kumo cloud, as I mentioned earlier. The first close of the Tenkan above or below the cloud usually offers the most reliable profit. Subsequent trades should be taken with smaller position sizes and more caution. In this trade, the range of candles closing below the Tenkan until it breaks again took several candles. I either avoid trades like this or reduce the trade size because there is a potential for reversal. Overall, the stop loss placement varies due to the price's close format; it can be set below the Kijun or below the reference candle itself.
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  • #83
  • Sep 22, 2025 6:44am Sep 22, 2025 6:44am
Quoting RaHaG0D
This is the third trading opportunity based on the Tenkan since the price moved above the Kumo cloud, as I mentioned earlier. The first close of the Tenkan above or below the cloud usually offers the most reliable profit. Subsequent trades should be taken with smaller position sizes and more caution. In this trade, the range of candles closing below the Tenkan until it breaks again took several candles. I either avoid trades like this or reduce the trade size because there is a potential for reversal. Overall, the stop loss placement varies due...
As I mentioned, it was a high-risk trade. Apart from the fact that gold was in a unique position (trading at a price level it had never seen before), and regardless of specific fundamental reasons and high volatility—which are not our primary criteria here—we are analyzing the reason for the stop-out from an Ichimoku perspective.
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  • #84
  • Sep 22, 2025 7:29am Sep 22, 2025 7:29am
As I mentioned, there is a possibility of a price reversal and a bearish cross. Why?
First: the Tenkan close at the start of the uptrend (when the price rises above the Kumo cloud and Span A) has occurred several times, and with each close, we get closer to the end of the trend and the beginning of a correction.
Second,: and more importantly, on the 1H, which is our reference, the price has not yet closed below the Tenkan. Also, the distance between the price and the Tenkan and Kijun lines is significant, which tends to pull the price back toward those lines.
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  • #85
  • Sep 22, 2025 10:36am Sep 22, 2025 10:36am
Tenkan and Kijun crosses and how to use them Part I

I am not focusing on flat or neutral crosses right now.
I want to talk specifically about bullish and bearish crosses, as well as crosses that occur inside the Kumo cloud.
To get faster entry signals, I set the period of the Kijun Slope to 1 instead of 26. This way, it essentially calculates the slope of the price itself and displays it as a color.

Whenever the price manages to break the specific zone I've marked on the chart, I will enter a sell trade. Again, I emphasize that you must analyze the past, present, and future market conditions. The past, present, and future must be broken.
Unlike conventional sources that say a bullish crossover above the Kumo cloud is a strong buy signal and that bearish crossovers should be avoided, I focus specifically on bearish crossovers. If my zone is breached (stopping me out), I then wait for a bullish crossover to occur.
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  • #86
  • Sep 22, 2025 10:53am Sep 22, 2025 10:53am
Tenkan and Kijun crosses and how to use them Part II

Crossover inside the Kumo Cloud: Firstly, I recommend avoiding these trades if you are not an experienced trader, especially crossovers that occur within a thick Kumo cloud. However, for me, they represent excellent entry points that I consistently use, contrary to what most sources suggest. Typically, a crossover inside the Kumo signifies a reversal from a resistance zone and a subsequent price pullback.

These crossovers often get reversed when they hit the other edge of the Kumo. In the example shown, the price reversed after touching Span A, which is the specific scenario I trade.
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  • #87
  • Sep 22, 2025 11:03am Sep 22, 2025 11:03am
Tenkan and Kijun crosses and how to use them Part II

Another example of a crossover inside the Kumo cloud.

Ultimately, the best advice for beginners regarding crossovers that occur inside the Kumo cloud is to wait for a counter crossover to form.

Because when a crossover occurs inside the Kumo cloud, it's still unclear from which level the price will reverse. If the Kumo cloud is thin, you can use its edge as a reference. However, in a thick Kumo cloud, there will be multiple support and resistance zones. In this case, the best approach is to be patient and wait for a counter crossover to form, then enter a trade based on the strategy I mentioned.
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  • #88
  • Sep 23, 2025 8:56pm Sep 23, 2025 8:56pm
Quoting RaHaG0D
Tenkan and Kijun crosses and how to use them Part II Another example of a crossover inside the Kumo cloud. Ultimately, the best advice for beginners regarding crossovers that occur inside the Kumo cloud is to wait for a counter crossover to form. Because when a crossover occurs inside the Kumo cloud, it's still unclear from which level the price will reverse. If the Kumo cloud is thin, you can use its edge as a reference. However, in a thick Kumo cloud, there will be multiple support and resistance zones. In this case, the best approach is to be...

what about Chikou Span?

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  • #89
  • Edited 2:20am Sep 24, 2025 1:26am | Edited 2:20am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} what about Chikou Span? {image}
There's no need to cover Chikou in the price section. When I explained the setup for Tenkan and Kijun, it was implied that Chikou is either above or below the Kumo, according to the standard rules. Chikou only plays a significant role when the trend is about to change or continue.
As I mentioned, for the price to change direction over time, it must break both its future and its past. In my explanations, I've said that the Kijun is very important: the Kijun represents the present, Senkou Span A represents the future, and Chikou represents the past. For a trend reversal to occur, these timeframes must be broken. According to my research and analysis, Chikou only becomes important here [in the context of trend change/continuation]. Otherwise, during events like a Kumo breakout or any other setup, its behavior changes along with the price.
The Chikou Span holds significant importance during crossovers; its range must be broken, otherwise, we will see a continuation of the current trend
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  • #90
  • Sep 24, 2025 3:01am Sep 24, 2025 3:01am
Quoting RaHaG0D
{quote} There's no need to cover Chikou in the price section. When I explained the setup for Tenkan and Kijun, it was implied that Chikou is either above or below the Kumo, according to the standard rules. Chikou only plays a significant role when the trend is about to change or continue. As I mentioned, for the price to change direction over time, it must break both its future and its past. In my explanations, I've said that the Kijun is very important: the Kijun represents the present, Senkou Span A represents the future, and Chikou represents...
hi RaHaGOD

I really like your thread. The way you present this system is clear and relevant. You clearly know your subject very well. Many authors have plagiarized each other to sell methods or books, and have copied the same errors as the authors they plagiarized. I admit I was a little scared when you started talking about Ichimoku crosses. We've read so many horror stories about that... But you do it very well. Congratulations on your efforts.
Dax only.
  • #91
  • Sep 24, 2025 3:59am Sep 24, 2025 3:59am
Quoting Tyross
{quote} hi RaHaGOD I really like your thread. The way you present this system is clear and relevant. You clearly know your subject very well. Many authors have plagiarized each other to sell methods or books, and have copied the same errors as the authors they plagiarized. I admit I was a little scared when you started talking about Ichimoku crosses. We've read so many horror stories about that... But you do it very well. Congratulations on your efforts.
Hi Tyross
I'm glad you found the content valuable. This material isn't available in any books or sources because the authors themselves didn't have a proper understanding of it. I spent months, day & night, examining every component of Ichimoku line by line and simulating them—to the point where I was analyzing and backtesting even in my dreams
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  • #92
  • Sep 25, 2025 11:39am Sep 25, 2025 11:39am
Gold 1H
Kijun Slope = Red
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  • #93
  • Sep 25, 2025 11:50am Sep 25, 2025 11:50am
Gold 1H
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  • #94
  • Sep 25, 2025 12:47pm Sep 25, 2025 12:47pm
If it can close above the range. The price could then move toward the resistances ahead of it. If it manages to break the first one, it will proceed to the next resistance level.
This is not a buy or sell recommendation. It is sent for analysis purposes only. You trade at your own risk
Gold 1H
The candle is still open with 15 minutes remaining
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  • #95
  • Sep 25, 2025 10:41pm Sep 25, 2025 10:41pm
Quoting RaHaG0D
If it can close above the range. The price could then move toward the resistances ahead of it. If it manages to break the first one, it will proceed to the next resistance level. This is not a buy or sell recommendation. It is sent for analysis purposes only. You trade at your own risk Gold 1H The candle is still open with 15 minutes remaining {image} {image}
Result +150p
Hitting the edge of the Como cloud
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  • #96
  • Sep 28, 2025 12:58pm Sep 28, 2025 12:58pm
Quoting RaHaG0D
{quote} Result +150p Hitting the edge of the Como cloud {image}
Do you always enter your trade on H1 or lower tf and how do you set your SL

Pls mate
  • #97
  • Oct 6, 2025 8:37am Oct 6, 2025 8:37am
Hi RahaGOD, how are you IchiGirl? I can't wait to keep reading your great thread. See you .

Bye
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  • #98
  • Oct 7, 2025 12:57am Oct 7, 2025 12:57am
Quoting Tyross
Hi RahaGOD, how are you IchiGirl? I can't wait to keep reading your great thread. See you . Bye
Hi Tyroos
I'll try to prepare some other topics for this week. It seems our friend isn't very interested in progressing. Let's not waste our time unnecessarily.
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  • #99
  • Oct 7, 2025 1:07am Oct 7, 2025 1:07am
Quoting Tunde4u
{quote} Do you always enter your trade on H1 or lower tf and how do you set your SL Pls mate
Hello, I apologize for the late reply. I haven't been active for a while.
I usually place my stop-loss below the breakout candle. I'm not sure if I mentioned the breakout candle here or somewhere else. The manner of the breakout in these setups is very important. At least 50% of the candle's body must be above the level, naturally, the less wick the candle has, the better. Please pay attention to this point as well
In all setups based on crossovers, the 1H itself is important. My lower timeframe is the M5 sometimes, on the lower timeframe, based on the breakout that occurs & the pullback it makes, I can set a tighter sl & a more precise entry point.
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  • #100
  • Oct 7, 2025 1:09am Oct 7, 2025 1:09am
Quoting Tunde4u
{quote} Do you always enter your trade on H1 or lower tf and how do you set your SL Pls mate
If you pay attention to the changing angle of Span A as well, it can help you in many setups
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