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  • #61
  • Sep 20, 2025 7:47am Sep 20, 2025 7:47am
Quoting Praetorion
{quote} I'm good at documenting and translating things to a readable educational format.. i can document all that's sitting in ur head prior you dump them with examples in here.. ill take my time and if required ask questions and help you with it. I am of the opinion good material should be documented.. what say.
I would be grateful. Because I don't have much knowledge. I would be grateful if experts could help us. These materials can be found everywhere. I'm just repeating the ones that are better and looking at them a little from my own perspective. Like neutral crosses. There has been little talk about them and how they can be used and what they mean. Thank you again. My own kids have left me with no focus or peace of mind, and someone needs to help
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  • #62
  • Sep 20, 2025 9:56am Sep 20, 2025 9:56am
Quoting hedgehogx
Many thanks @Raha for starting this thread. I’m really interested in Ichimoku and looking forward to learning more on this. Also, appreciate @T721 for your great resources to get started. By the way, it seems missing first part (1-41?). It would be nice if you could share it too, if you don’t mind. Again, thanks for your kind sharing. This is my first post ever on ff. Regards,
I just saw your message now. Some messages don't load for me & I see them late!!
Thank you for taking the time to read. I am truly preparing very good materials—things I have spent months understanding myself. Materials that I know may not be found in references because I discovered them with my own eyes & understanding.
Anyway, I would be happy if you join us If the content was good and you were able to benefit from it, I just ask everyone to pray for the peace of my mother, brother, child, whom I recently lost.
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  • #63
  • Sep 20, 2025 10:13am Sep 20, 2025 10:13am
Quoting RaHaG0D
{quote} I would be grateful. Because I don't have much knowledge. I would be grateful if experts could help us. These materials can be found everywhere. I'm just repeating the ones that are better and looking at them a little from my own perspective. Like neutral crosses. There has been little talk about them and how they can be used and what they mean. Thank you again. My own kids have left me with no focus or peace of mind, and someone needs to help {image}...
asking the right questions is one of the most powerful ways to build knowledge and i have seen you do that and i agree that tons of material are there but asking the right questions credits the material and like i said you have it.. As for Kids, Dont worry, your kids aren’t stealing your peace of mind. They’re just borrowing it indefinitely, interest-free, and with no return policy.

you are a trader and you should know what you are trading
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  • #64
  • Sep 20, 2025 10:23am Sep 20, 2025 10:23am
Quoting T721
{quote} some of these might help you {image}
Thank you duck
Really appreciated.
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  • #65
  • Sep 20, 2025 10:57am Sep 20, 2025 10:57am
Quoting Praetorion
{quote} asking the right questions is one of the most powerful ways to build knowledge and i have seen you do that and i agree that tons of material are there but asking the right questions credits the material and like i said you have it.. As for Kids, Dont worry, your kids aren’t stealing your peace of mind. They’re just borrowing it indefinitely, interest-free, and with no return policy. you are a trader and you should know what you are trading
I definitely know this well, and that's why I am successful . Broooo

It's me
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  • #66
  • Sep 20, 2025 10:58pm Sep 20, 2025 10:58pm
XAU Sep19 Closed.

The next 26 days ... the next Fed rate cut if that happens.

Watching the next 26-Daily Close and the Green Chikou Span and the Kumo Cloud. Price will eventually catches up with one or the other.

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  • #67
  • Sep 21, 2025 3:00am Sep 21, 2025 3:00am
Quoting emmanuel7788
XAU Sep19 Closed. The next 26 days ... the next Fed rate cut if that happens. Watching the next 26-Daily Close and the Green Chikou Span and the Kumo Cloud. Price will eventually catches up with one or the other. {image} ...
Hi Emmanuel
Very interesting example.

A large distance between the Tenkan and Kijun lines, as seen here, is considered an overbought signal. Very often, the price struggles to make new higher highs and tends to revert back toward the Kijun, whose mathematical calculation will raise its price level. Without a major macroeconomic event, the first Ichimoku level to watch for in an overbought market is a return to the Kijun.
The Tenkan guarantees the flow when it exists, while the Kijun is the balance point in a trend. The price always returns to it during profit-taking moments.
A very important indicator: when the space between the Tenkan and Kijun is wider than the future Kumo, the price is exhausted and moves into a sideways drift. The trend can then resume or reverse abruptly if macroeconomic factors come into play. This is a dangerous moment when you should secure profits or exit your position.


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  • #68
  • Sep 21, 2025 3:16am Sep 21, 2025 3:16am
Anticipating the future position of the Kijun allows you to know in advance where the forecasted equilibrium of the price is. There are indicators on MT4 that trace the calculation range of the Kijun, and even the Senkou Span B (SSB). It's very useful. I'm on MT5, I don't have those indicators. But I no longer use Ichimoku for intraday trading. I just look at it for fun, now.
Dax only.
  • #69
  • Sep 21, 2025 5:31am Sep 21, 2025 5:31am
Regarding crosses, I think there’s nothing more to add, but I want to emphasize again to pay close attention to the behavior of Tenkan and Kijun during a cross and ask yourself why. Also consider the state of the other Ichimoku parameters at the time of the cross. (This might seem trivial to some, but this why-and-answer is what forms the structure of Ichimoku.) The meaning and location of crosses are important.
Now, let’s move on to the topic of price in Ichimoku.
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  • #70
  • Sep 21, 2025 5:46am Sep 21, 2025 5:46am
Price in Ichimoku Part I

Price in Ichimoku is another important tool. According to the sources, when the price is above the Kumo cloud, it indicates buying; when it is below the Kumo cloud, it indicates selling; and when the price is inside the Kumo cloud, it signals danger.
The sources :
If the current price is above the Kumo, the trend is considered bullish.
If the current price is below the Kumo, the trend will be considered bearish.
If the current price is within the Kumo, the trend is said to be consolidating.

I want to start with something simple first, then move on to a much more important point
According to the sources: when the price is above the Kumo cloud and Span A is above Span B, the trend is bullish (OK) and we can profit from it.
Try to take advantage of every single event that happens. Don’t focus on catching the very beginning of a wave and riding it for 10 kilometers. Every component of Ichimoku gives signals during the day, and you can profit from each one individually.

Whenever the price is above the Kumo cloud, you can wait for it to close below the Tenkan line, and if the price then reverses and closes again above the Tenkan, you can set a buy trade. The opposite applies when the price is below the Kumo cloud, where you can set a sell trade.
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  • #71
  • Sep 21, 2025 5:51am Sep 21, 2025 5:51am
Price in Ichimoku Part II

The example was for Tenkan, but you can use Kijun in the same way.

Now, you can also analyze and trade reversal trades, though I won’t go into detail. Failure or success in closing can be signs of either a reversal or continuation of the trend (Pay close attention to the behaviors)
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  • #72
  • Sep 21, 2025 6:02am Sep 21, 2025 6:02am
Price in Ichimoku Part III

Are you ready to make the topic more complex?!

I am sending a chart image for gold, where the price has moved below the Kumo cloud. Sources say that price below the Kumo cloud means a bearish trend... so should I sell?!
This is where the nature and behavior of Tenkan and Kijun become important.

Notice: if you missed the initial cross and are waiting for another setup to enter, you must carefully watch how Tenkan and Kijun behave.
What does this mean?
It means when the price is below the Kumo cloud, you should wait for the price to close above Tenkan for the first time. Where this close happens can give us a signal — a signal about whether to sell or to change our direction.
Next, look at the behavior of Kijun.
Is Kijun flat or does it have an angle/slope?
Kijun’s behavior itself can be another sign of what might happen next.
Check your own chart. All these factors give us hints about whether to sell, buy, or wait. Paying attention to the close above or below Tenkan, Tenkan's place in the trend, and whether Kijun is flat or angled can help decide the next trading move more accurately.

In this chart, you see a close above Tenkan occurred when the price had penetrated the Kumo cloud, and the market did not allow Tenkan to dive too far below the cloud. Kijun was also inside the cloud at that time.
You can enter based on your own risk preference. Sometimes I wait for a bullish cross against this trend to occur, so my risk to reward ratio improves.
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  • #73
  • Sep 21, 2025 6:04am Sep 21, 2025 6:04am
I am quickly covering very important topics. I hope the reader does not skip over them. Even if you are a beginner, spending a few months learning your tools and system will be very valuable for you. With respect
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  • #74
  • Sep 21, 2025 8:46am Sep 21, 2025 8:46am
Quoting RaHaG0D
Price in Ichimoku Part III Are you ready to make the topic more complex?! I am sending a chart image for gold, where the price has moved below the Kumo cloud. Sources say that price below the Kumo cloud means a bearish trend... so should I sell?! This is where the nature and behavior of Tenkan and Kijun become important. Notice: if you missed the initial cross and are waiting for another setup to enter, you must carefully watch how Tenkan and Kijun behave. What does this mean? It means when the price is below the Kumo cloud, you should wait for...
What is more important is what is actually happened. Breakout failed and trapped shorts.
How many people saw horizontal line ? Most.
How many saw inside candle ? Most.
How many saw outside candle that covered last 3 candles ? Most.
How many use Ichimoku ? Small minority.
Majority moves price and the fact that the price happened to be in the clouds is just a coincidence.
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  • #75
  • Sep 21, 2025 9:09am Sep 21, 2025 9:09am
Quoting Mandariin
{quote} What is more important is what is actually happened. Breakout failed and trapped shorts. How many people saw horizontal line ? Most. How many saw inside candle ? Most. How many saw outside candle that covered last 3 candles ? Most. How many use Ichimoku ? Small minority. Majority moves price and the fact that the price happened to be in the clouds is just a coincidence. {image}{image}
thanks for the enlightment. The Bukakke Pattern is wildly known among Trading experts!
  • #76
  • Sep 21, 2025 12:06pm Sep 21, 2025 12:06pm
Quoting CogAlpha
{quote} thanks for the enlightment. The Bukakke Pattern is wildly known among Trading experts!
Nice, triple mocking. That's okay.
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  • #77
  • Sep 21, 2025 6:21pm Sep 21, 2025 6:21pm
My personal experience with ichimoku was on m5 charts, I tried using it on high times and something definitely didn't fit, just commenting on my personal experience, it's a good tool if you know how to use it, great topic.
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  • #78
  • Sep 21, 2025 10:40pm Sep 21, 2025 10:40pm
Support and Resistance in Ichimoku Part I

In Ichimoku, there are several types of support and resistance zones, all of which become more important based on how long that Ichimoku parameter has remained flat. These zones, besides acting as support and resistance, have two other roles:

  1. They can attract the price toward themselves.
  2. They can be our trade targets depending on crosses or breakouts.

  1. Areas where the Kumo cloud has flattened.
  2. Flat Tenkan and Kijun crosses.
  3. Flat Kijun line.

As you can see, there are many zones. If nothing else remains, next I will explain how to use these concepts.

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  • #79
  • Sep 21, 2025 10:48pm Sep 21, 2025 10:48pm
Quoting Mandariin
{quote} What is more important is what is actually happened. Breakout failed and trapped shorts. How many people saw horizontal line ? Most. How many saw inside candle ? Most. How many saw outside candle that covered last 3 candles ? Most. How many use Ichimoku ? Small minority. Majority moves price and the fact that the price happened to be in the clouds is just a coincidence. {image}{image}
Candlesticks are also very important, but even more important is where the price came from before that. I am referring to the Ichimoku structure. The price did not just retrace to the previous candle. Again, thank you very much for your excellent message. Another important part of Ichimoku is the candlesticks.
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  • #80
  • Sep 21, 2025 10:54pm Sep 21, 2025 10:54pm
There is one more topic left about price in Ichimoku that I will also send. I think I have explained the overall concept completely, and what remains is how to use them. I have shared usage methods in some cases, and I believe everything has become quite clear.
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