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  • #1,121
  • Aug 28, 2025 2:09am Aug 28, 2025 2:09am
Hello everyone, it's been kind of challenging using tradovate. opposite order (SL) dont get cancelled automatically when my order reached TP. I'll have to be present to close it manually lest it reverse. Is there something i'm doing wrong guys?
  • #1,122
  • Aug 28, 2025 3:31am Aug 28, 2025 3:31am
Mission 1 completed.

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  • #1,123
  • Aug 28, 2025 8:56am Aug 28, 2025 8:56am
Couple of banger Deals......


50% off on FUNDINGTICKS

90% off on APEX>...... I'll be yolo'ing 50kx20 on NFP friday
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #1,124
  • Edited 9:17am Aug 28, 2025 8:59am | Edited 9:17am
Quoting montygoldy
Gents featured on Fundingticks leaderboard {image}
Congrats Monty! Way to beat bucket shops! Ahhhhh..fuck it, this trade is dedicated to you(Dow futures 5 Min TF)
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  • #1,125
  • Aug 28, 2025 9:22am Aug 28, 2025 9:22am
Quoting montygoldy
Couple of banger Deals...... 50% off on FUNDINGTICKS 90% off on APEX>...... I'll be yolo'ing 50kx20 on NFP friday
Is it 90% off and $37 activation fee ?
  • #1,126
  • Aug 28, 2025 9:24am Aug 28, 2025 9:24am
Quoting Noisy
{quote} You may have gotten the wrong impression. Yes, I am involved in many things related to trading, and admittedly, none of them have brought me closer to my goal so far, but to say that my head is not wired correctly is not accurate. If you have a concrete solution for how I can achieve my goal without continuing to search for help/information, please let me know. What I said is that if you can't even earn minimum wage consistently month after month with trading despite investing a lot of time, it's nothing more than a hobby, and my impression...
Why don't you simply get a job that pays you a salary every month. That way you will be happier and have a regular salary and we can go back to the objectives in Post one of the OP/
every Saint has a past. Every Sinner has a Future
  • #1,127
  • Aug 28, 2025 9:28am Aug 28, 2025 9:28am
Quoting MoHoSK
{quote} Is it 90% off and $37 activation fee ?
I think the activation fees only for 250k or 300k accounts not all of them....
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  • #1,128
  • Aug 28, 2025 10:29am Aug 28, 2025 10:29am
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} I think the activation fees only for 250k or 300k accounts not all of them....
Is there any time limit to pass that challenge ?
  • #1,129
  • Aug 28, 2025 10:50am Aug 28, 2025 10:50am
Quoting gab1503
Hello everyone, it's been kind of challenging using tradovate. opposite order (SL) dont get cancelled automatically when my order reached TP. I'll have to be present to close it manually lest it reverse. Is there something i'm doing wrong guys?
Doesn't work with group trades, unfortunately.
  • #1,130
  • Aug 28, 2025 11:24am Aug 28, 2025 11:24am
Quoting CableJ
Just when I thought I was out they drag me back in... 5%ers + FTMO CFD's here I come! This is nothing but bad news for the futures props... The US futures props greatly benefited from the exponential growth due to the stampede of banned former US CFD traders to their doorsteps, that growth has been over for quite some time... and Now here comes 2 of the oldest and most reputable CFD props with massive US mindshare back in the US prop market to reclaim their lost market share armed with static bal based drawdown & no payout buffer/safety net targets...
So.....has anyone looked at 5ers and FTMO? The costs are sky high, and the 2 step nonsense makes them unattractive. I have been funded at 5ers previously, but they have been greedier and greedier for years now. I was excited too, but once I looked into it - they aren't serious about getting US traders. They will never be able to claw that back, as they don't offer much in the way of fair terms. 15% over two phases by FTMO is wild, especially when 100k is over $600. The prices at 5ers are atrocious. They will not do well in the USA.
  • #1,131
  • Edited 12:08pm Aug 28, 2025 11:53am | Edited 12:08pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Well, to be fair, the "clear the buffer" of a futures prop is similar to the stage 2 of a CFD prop. But, yeah, FTMO is a giant, based on your latsest traffic updated, more traffic than the top 3 futures firms combined. I posted earlier this week, other than my Tradeify STFs, I am gravitating towards the no consistency, no payout cap, daily payout firms....perhaps other futures firms will be forced to offer the same to survive the new GIANT player in the market The good news is the FTMO US entity is following all of the US regulations as...
no consistency rules, no safety net, no payout caps, unlimited time to pass... i think the only plan that can realistically compete on the futures side is STF.

If I was starting fresh I would go with...

400K FTMO = 1.7x DD to pass + 2% payout
100K 5ers = 1.5x DD to pass + 2% payout
5 25K take profit = 2x DD to pass & clear payout safety net
5 150K tradify STF = 1.5x DD to payout target
5 150K lucid STF = 1.5x DD to payout target
5 150K Day traders STF = 1.67x DD to payout target
  • #1,132
  • Aug 28, 2025 12:02pm Aug 28, 2025 12:02pm
Quoting tradingfool
{quote} So.....has anyone looked at 5ers and FTMO? The costs are sky high, and the 2 step nonsense makes them unattractive. I have been funded at 5ers previously, but they have been greedier and greedier for years now. I was excited too, but once I looked into it - they aren't serious about getting US traders. They will never be able to claw that back, as they don't offer much in the way of fair terms. 15% over two phases by FTMO is wild, especially when 100k is over $600. The prices at 5ers are atrocious. They will not do well in the USA.
You'll usually pay more for brand/reputation than for no-name providers. I think they know what they can charge, and if it doesn't work out, they'll probably adjust it.
  • #1,133
  • Aug 28, 2025 12:03pm Aug 28, 2025 12:03pm
Quoting MoHoSK
{quote} Is there any time limit to pass that challenge ?
its monthly fees so if you dont pass in a month you have pay again to continue...
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #1,134
  • Aug 28, 2025 12:32pm Aug 28, 2025 12:32pm
Quoting CableJ
{quote} no consistency rules, no safety net, no payout caps, unlimited time to pass... i think the only plan that can realistically compete on the futures side is STF. If I was starting fresh I would go with... 400K FTMO = 1.7x DD to pass + 2% payout 100K 5ers = 1.5x DD to pass + 2% payout 5 25K take profit = 2x DD to pass & clear payout safety net 5 150K tradify STF = 1.5x DD to payout target 5 150K lucid STF = 1.5x DD to payout target 5 150K Day traders STF = 1.67x DD to payout target
This is GOLD for anyone starting out....very knowledgeable source here.
Remeber, yiou can scale things, purchase 1, use payouts to fund the rest....initial risk can be kept extremely small.
I agree on the TPT, I love them, almost cleared the buffer, will get 4 more with 1st payout + refund (did that promo)......
No payout cap, no consistency, and withdrawal multiple times DAILY if you wish.
  • #1,135
  • Aug 28, 2025 12:43pm Aug 28, 2025 12:43pm
Quoting tradingfool
{quote} So.....has anyone looked at 5ers and FTMO? The costs are sky high, and the 2 step nonsense makes them unattractive. I have been funded at 5ers previously, but they have been greedier and greedier for years now. I was excited too, but once I looked into it - they aren't serious about getting US traders. They will never be able to claw that back, as they don't offer much in the way of fair terms. 15% over two phases by FTMO is wild, especially when 100k is over $600. The prices at 5ers are atrocious. They will not do well in the USA.
Same prices they had when they exited the market......FTMO was displayed in EUR, so once the conversion to USD, pretty damn close to what it is today.
Little known secret, if you go in to FTMO academy and take their lessons and exam, I believe it is 10%, maybe even 20% off.
  • #1,136
  • Aug 28, 2025 12:47pm Aug 28, 2025 12:47pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} This is GOLD for anyone starting out....very knowledgeable source here. Remeber, yiou can scale things, purchase 1, use payouts to fund the rest....initial risk can be kept extremely small. I agree on the TPT, I love them, almost cleared the buffer, will get 4 more with 1st payout + refund (did that promo)...... No payout cap, no consistency, and withdrawal multiple times DAILY if you wish.
do you remember whats the max payouts before they push to pro+. Is it 5k?
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #1,137
  • Aug 28, 2025 12:50pm Aug 28, 2025 12:50pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Same prices they had when they exited the market......FTMO was displayed in EUR, so once the conversion to USD, pretty damn close to what it is today. Little known secret, if you go in to FTMO academy and take their lessons and exam, I believe it is 10%, maybe even 20% off.
Hi pipmaster. When you told "little known secret", I wondered.

I have a FTMO swing account returning 550 USD per month and I made 200K account 206K within around 10 months. Is there a way to get payout faster without waiting the target? Do you have any tip? With that speed I will get paid after more than 2 years. What makes it faster, if I might ask?
  • #1,138
  • Aug 28, 2025 1:04pm Aug 28, 2025 1:04pm
Quoting MoHoSK
{quote} Is it 90% off and $37 activation fee ?
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  • #1,139
  • Aug 28, 2025 2:04pm Aug 28, 2025 2:04pm
Quoting deroty
{quote} Hi pipmaster. When you told "little known secret", I wondered. I have a FTMO swing account returning 550 USD per month and I made 200K account 206K within around 10 months. Is there a way to get payout faster without waiting the target? Do you have any tip? With that speed I will get paid after more than 2 years. What makes it faster, if I might ask?
to pass faster? no such thing exists.
The FTMO academy used to get you a discount on your challenge, not certain if still true.
  • #1,140
  • Edited 2:31pm Aug 28, 2025 2:09pm | Edited 2:31pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} This is GOLD for anyone starting out....very knowledgeable source here. Remeber, yiou can scale things, purchase 1, use payouts to fund the rest....initial risk can be kept extremely small. I agree on the TPT, I love them, almost cleared the buffer, will get 4 more with 1st payout + refund (did that promo)...... No payout cap, no consistency, and withdrawal multiple times DAILY if you wish.
if amazes me that some people still don't realize requiring the clearing of the safety net to get paid is basically the equivalent of the CFD prop 2nd step. The combined return on DD needed to pass + clear the threshold is much higher than it was with CFD props. It's the main reason Apex hands out 1 step evals for fast food money! Where they make their money is after the more expensive activation fee is payed and a significantly higher % of futures traders go down in a ball of flames due to trailing DD + consistency rules.
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