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  • #781
  • Edited 11:21am Aug 15, 2025 11:06am | Edited 11:21am
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The leverage growth is similar to what Tradeday is doing.
  • #782
  • Aug 15, 2025 2:13pm Aug 15, 2025 2:13pm
What a mofo nq when i am selling its goes up hit sl and 3 times and already blown mffu evals and fundednext evals…

but fundingticks hits the daily target of 800 each
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #783
  • Aug 15, 2025 5:02pm Aug 15, 2025 5:02pm
Dr. FF is here to help.
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  • #784
  • Aug 15, 2025 5:08pm Aug 15, 2025 5:08pm
Quoting montygoldy
What a mofo nq when i am selling its goes up hit sl and 3 times and already blown mffu evals and fundednext evals… but fundingticks hits the daily target of 800 each
Can you show us where it hurt you?
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It takes a lot for me to IGNORE you, but you can try.
  • #785
  • Aug 15, 2025 5:55pm Aug 15, 2025 5:55pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} For full transparency, it works both ways..... signal account {image} actual Darwinex {image}
There is something about a triangular equity chart that is really sexy and delicious.
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  • #786
  • Aug 15, 2025 6:01pm Aug 15, 2025 6:01pm
Quoting procrude
TopStep TakeProfitTrader MyFundedFutures Tradify These are the only reputable firms I see.
Most don't like their offers but both OneupTrader and Earn2Trade have been around for 8-9 years and have solid reputations
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #787
  • Aug 15, 2025 7:07pm Aug 15, 2025 7:07pm
Quoting montygoldy
What a mofo nq when i am selling its goes up hit sl and 3 times and already blown mffu evals and fundednext evals… but fundingticks hits the daily target of 800 each
Seems like microscalping with funded next gets your account deleted but it's clearly defined, unlike futures elite.
  • #788
  • Aug 15, 2025 8:04pm Aug 15, 2025 8:04pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} Most don't like their offers but both OneupTrader and Earn2Trade have been around for 8-9 years and have solid reputations
Think Earn2Trade's evaluation period is probably too long. Interesting that they allow you to withdraw down to 100 of your profit, but hitting the daily drawdown seems to fail the account.
  • #789
  • Aug 15, 2025 8:05pm Aug 15, 2025 8:05pm
Got a payout from tradeify today. No complaints about IP even though all trades were executed on the same PC as fundingticks. They're solid so far.
  • #790
  • Aug 15, 2025 9:21pm Aug 15, 2025 9:21pm
Quoting Noisy
{quote} The way the Risk Engine affects your outcome isn’t so easy to understand. I’ve read through all the docs and watched some videos provided by Darwinex, explaining the calculations and formulas behind it but it’s still rather unclear to me. The main factors seem to be leverage, underlying volatility, time of the day, duration of your orders. How you control risk in your signal account in particularly if using a percentage based risk calculations in relevance to your account‘s balance and stop loss distances doesn’t seem to play any role at...
This statement sums it up as clearly as can be:


the risk engine adjusts the trade on the Darwin side (not your mt5) the risk multiplier does exactly that, ensures that all the traders operate in the same environment because if you risk, for example, 4% on a trade and I risk 0.25%, if both the strategy are valid, you would make more profits than me ALWAYS, but just because you risked more and not because you performed better, to avoid that, the risk engine does its work
  • #791
  • Edited 11:47pm Aug 15, 2025 11:37pm | Edited 11:47pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} This statement sums it up as clearly as can be: the risk engine adjusts the trade on the Darwin side (not your mt5) the risk multiplier does exactly that, ensures that all the traders operate in the same environment because if you risk, for example, 4% on a trade and I risk 0.25%, if both the strategy are valid, you would make more profits than me ALWAYS, but just because you risked more and not because you performed better, to avoid that, the risk engine does its work
I'm more in to accomplishing "valid strategy" that endures the test of time.
The 4%er will get there same as .25%er albeit at different speeds. (or one of them or both won't ever get there)
Personally I am against trying to convert a 4%er into a .25%er to appease that distinction between the quality and pureness of a trade. Not saying I'm a 4%er...but Sometimes it takes what it takes despite a set of formulated distinctions such as Darwine's.
Automated is even harder and more susceptible to 'tilt'.
But if all good and the equity keeps building in a Darwinex account without any additional risk assumption taken I assume the track is the right one to be one. . One needs to keep risk steady even with the continuing increase in equity. It is really tempting to increase risk when the good is going but then you are after too much good.
That in itself eases the danger of weight of risk on the overall system...hopefully just the 'survive and make some' action slowly but surely raises the multiplier.
Anyways, that's what I'm counting on. "Time and Health" applies to a Darwinex account to...if you get my drift.
  • #792
  • Aug 16, 2025 12:00am Aug 16, 2025 12:00am
I took my equity chart and superimposed it an a Bell curve to simulate wher I am and where I want to go.
It is all about climbing that line up.
The higher you go, the safer...unless you violate the rate of asscend.
Pipmaster is also on the same trajectory.
It's just time that needs to pass while alive and well.
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  • #793
  • Edited 5:34am Aug 16, 2025 5:19am | Edited 5:34am
Quoting pipmaster77
This statement sums it up as clearly as can be: the risk engine adjusts the trade on the Darwin side (not your mt5) the risk multiplier does exactly that, ensures that all the traders operate in the same environment because if you risk, for example, 4% on a trade and I risk 0.25%, if both the strategy are valid, you would make more profits than me ALWAYS, but just because you risked more and not because you performed better, to avoid that, the risk engine does its work
Yes. We understand that the Risk Engine tries to keep all traders within a range of 3.25% - 6.5% VaR in order to provide investors with a consistent level of risk and ensure that all DARWINs are comparable and on a level playing field.

The problem with this is that if you don't understand exactly how and why Trader 1 with one strategy receives a risk multiplier of 1x while Trader 2 with another strategy only receives 0.45 (even if the latter takes even less risk than Trader 1 in his signal account), you have no way of knowing how to achieve the same or even better results in terms of profit and drawdown with your DARWIN in relation to your signal account.

If I know that my car takes 20 minutes to get to work every day when I drive it, but then I decide to spend 38 € a month on a "Super-duper Risk Engine 3.12" and suddenly arrive at work in 18 minutes the next day (everything else remains the same, same driving style, no external influences), the next day it took me 30 minutes, and the day after that 23 minutes again, it is difficult for me to estimate my travel time to work (although my fuel costs remain the same)!

Back to Darwinex. I constantly see traders everywhere who are constantly buying new Darwinex Zero accounts for this very reason because they absolutely cannot understand how they can achieve a reasonably consistent or better result with their DARWIN than with their signal account. They pay 38 € month for this!!! Then, after 3 months, they might realize that they have no idea how the risk engine affects their own trading in DARWIN and why they only have a risk multiplier of 0.88 instead of the expected/hoped-for 1x. Then they throw their subscription overboard and start all over again (They could have donated the 114 € better or deposited them into their own trading account) Anyhow, now they start paying another 38 € per month again for 2 months, only to find that they still have no idea why the DARWIN is still only at a risk multiplier of 0.91.

In the meantime, Darwinex has earned a CONSTANT 38 € every month from these desperate traders (subscribers), but Darwinex couldn't explain to you in advance how you can ensure that you get a constant risk multiplier of at least 1x with your signal account. Do you see the problem?

If it is so unpredictable how the risk engine affects your result in DARWIN in relation to your own trading / signal account, then they should at least provide free demo accounts with the risk engine so that you can test it properly instead of charging money for it every month. In Montygoldy's words (These clever MOFOs...)

  • #794
  • Aug 16, 2025 5:47am Aug 16, 2025 5:47am
Quoting Noisy
{quote} Yes. We understand that the Risk Engine tries to keep all traders within a range of 3.25% - 6.5% VaR in order to provide investors with a consistent level of risk and ensure that all DARWINs are comparable and on a level playing field. The problem with this is that if you don't understand exactly how and why Trader 1 with one strategy receives a risk multiplier of 1x while Trader 2 with another strategy only receives 0.45 (even if the latter takes even less risk than Trader 1 in his signal account), you have no way of knowing how to achieve...
I have asked questions along same lines from Louis (The bald guy in some of Darwinex's vids). He basically said that depends on what you are doing in the unserlying account and it is your own IP and Darwinex has no way of accessing it or analyzing it. So where do you go from there? It is up to the individual trader to trade their accounts in a certain way that the RE will like and nurture.
When you really think about it, he has a point.
  • #795
  • Aug 16, 2025 6:03am Aug 16, 2025 6:03am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} I have asked questions along same lines from Louis (The bald guy in some of Darwinex's vids). He basically said that depends on what you are doing in the unserlying account and it is your own IP and Darwinex has no way of accessing it or analyzing it. So where do you go from there? It is up to the individual trader to trade their accounts in a certain way that the RE will like and nurture. When you really think about it, he has a point.
Brokers (Darwinex) have access to the data flowing through the trading platform, including your trading activity. So that’s BS…

If they can’t tell you why 10 executed orders in your signal account where you risked 1% per order (in what ever way you decided to control this) made a 3% profit for your signal account with a max. drawdown of -1.5% but resulted in your DARWIN showing a 0.5% profit and a -2% max. drawdown, they should stop doing business.

How can they charge money for something as a reputable regulated Broker but can’t tell you how and why you end up with something.

If your DARWIN is ultimately responsible for what you get (points, capital accumulations, investors, payouts etc.) but YOU have no idea how to expect at least a certain consistent minimum result, you could as well just pay for lottery tickets every month and hope/pray for the best?

You are paying 38 € a month for monopoly money where you expect a certain performance. Yes, your performance might be influenced by uncertainty that comes with trading the markets but not only that here it also comes from their „risk engine“. You then not only fight the markets but also some risk engine because that is what controls over your potential outcome too.
  • #796
  • Aug 16, 2025 6:44am Aug 16, 2025 6:44am
Quoting Noisy
{quote} Brokers (Darwinex) have access to the data flowing through the trading platform, including your trading activity. So that’s BS… If they can’t tell you why 10 executed orders in your signal account where you risked 1% per order (in what ever way you decided to control this) made a 3% profit for your signal account with a max. drawdown of -1.5% but resulted in your DARWIN showing a 0.5% profit and a -2% max. drawdown, they should stop doing business. How can they charge money for something as a reputable regulated Broker but can’t tell you...
Actually only Juan and his brother have access to the trades in the underlying accounts. From talking to both of them, they are really unwilling to look at Darwins trades. They have made a machine (RE) that does that for all accounts apparently in an equal and unbiased manner.
It is funny that I at times ask same types of questions you ask and have similar concerns but now here I am with (attempted) answers to your questions.
I guess for me it is a little bit of been there, done that thing.
  • #797
  • Aug 16, 2025 7:03am Aug 16, 2025 7:03am
Quoting Noisy
{quote} Brokers (Darwinex) have access to the data flowing through the trading platform, including your trading activity. So that’s BS… If they can’t tell you why 10 executed orders in your signal account where you risked 1% per order (in what ever way you decided to control this) made a 3% profit for your signal account with a max. drawdown of -1.5% but resulted in your DARWIN showing a 0.5% profit and a -2% max. drawdown, they should stop doing business. How can they charge money for something as a reputable regulated Broker but can’t tell you...
I don't have Telegram and am not the type to join groups but Pipmaster belongs to a chat group where they discuss methods of trading that the RE responds positively to. Why don't you join and learn the tricks and come tell us all how to work the RE to our benefits?
  • #798
  • Aug 16, 2025 7:40am Aug 16, 2025 7:40am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} I don't have Telegram and am not the type to join groups but Pipmaster belongs to a chat group where they discuss methods of trading that the RE responds positively to. Why don't you join and learn the tricks and come tell us all how to work the RE to our benefits?
I’ll wait to see what my DARWIN will look like after the calibration stage and then keep trading it the same way for 2 more months. If the results won’t be satisfying or I don’t see how to achieve similar or better results with my DARWIN as compared to the signal account I’ll cancel my subscription. I won’t keep buying new accounts (driving blindly while spending money on it).

Like said, they should offer demo accounts with demo DARWINS if it takes people months of work just to find out how the risk engine will affect the results.
  • #799
  • Aug 16, 2025 7:53am Aug 16, 2025 7:53am
I know it is truly hard to grasp and it is even harder to explain. I keep seeing statements like "trying to get your signal account to a good risk multiplier".......the point is, you don't need to.
If myself and someone else trade the same strategy....same instrumets, same tp, same sl.......I use a lot size of .01 and the use a lot size of 10.....
If I earn 2% after the RE "gets a hold of me", the other trader earns 2% as well.
I truly wish I could explain it better as my multiplier NEVER moves....one is at a 0.8, one is at a 1.94 and one is at a 1.32
My rough patches where I over exposed or held too long it has decreased slightly and then went back to normal after those trades drop from the look back window.
It's simply consistency, if you are trading too large(above average risk) ....that's OK
If you are trading too small (below average risk)...that's OK too
Where trouble insues is when you hit a rough patch and your multiplier goes down and then you INCREASE size to make it back...the lower the multiplier goes, obviously the MORE you must make back.
Just keep doing it the same......
Even when I add or DCA that additional size gets cut quick.
I personally love the risk engine, as I do not have to adjust my position size, it does it for me. I simply have to keep my size the same and execute my set ups.
To me, it's one less thing I have to think about
  • #800
  • Aug 16, 2025 8:01am Aug 16, 2025 8:01am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} I don't have Telegram and am not the type to join groups but Pipmaster belongs to a chat group where they discuss methods of trading that the RE responds positively to. Why don't you join and learn the tricks and come tell us all how to work the RE to our benefits?
It's the Darwinex discord.......it's not like a prop firm discord. There are some extremely intelligent folks there that are very knowledgable on how Darwinex works.
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