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  • #541
  • Aug 10, 2025 2:54pm Aug 10, 2025 2:54pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Perhaps Amelia. Not sure. Vidvad is a legitimate trader. I will let all know right now, the BS about "prove it's live", "where does the $$$$ come form?" "how can they afford to do it?" will be pretty much immediately banned. We are not interested in "jobs" where you go to a trading desk in an office. This is remote funding opportunities....as long as the money going into YOUR bank account is real, I really can give two shits where it came from. Do we want to trade with the legitimate firms? Of course, I state that over and over. That is...
If the legitimate firm is claiming to provide a real account but you then trade a demo account, how legitimate would you rate such firm? …
  • #542
  • Aug 10, 2025 3:01pm Aug 10, 2025 3:01pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} I agree....I DCA often, as part of pre-determined risk. I discontinued using APEX due to this. I will not use a firm that does not allow it. You are correct, they forbid it because they know it works. Monty had payouts denied because he was stopped out on trades he moved to BE (not APEX). I mean how much more risk-adverse can you get other than a risk free trade? I believe they called it micro scalping.
the problem is, its risk free for you but for prop company its risk free when you do a losing trade or have SL set in bigger loss.
  • #543
  • Aug 10, 2025 3:11pm Aug 10, 2025 3:11pm
Quoting Noisy
{quote} If the legitimate firm is claiming to provide a real account but you then trade a demo account, how legitimate would you rate such firm? …
If they have no payout issues....I can name 4 futures firms oof top of my head
They don't impose BS rules on the fly...
I consider legit.
The firms I use fully disclose after passing you are on a "live SIM account", which means you are still being paid by the firm.
At some point, whether it may be a $$$ amount, number of payouts, or at their discretion, they may move you to an actual live account.
You mentioned using FTMO? They have NEVER, nor has ANY CFD firm to date put anyone on a live account. For years, they all misrepresnted as such.
Personally, Darwinex is my long term plan, it does get any more legitimate than that. Of course, then the argument becomes, they don't pay enough.
Folks must relaize, if you believe you are trading real live funds, what investor is giving up 80-90% for YOU to trade their money?
When and if the futures firms move you to live, it is generally with your OWN profit buffer you have built....you are simply being moved so you are no longer a liability on the balance sheet......
  • #544
  • Aug 10, 2025 3:15pm Aug 10, 2025 3:15pm
Quoting Noisy
{quote} Yeah sure… 2k/day on a 10k account = +20% return… This forum is better than comedy central… Everyone making 1-20% a day with just a little as a 10k account yet nobody can proof it and still writes to a prop trading topic because they are too bored sitting on the yacht and enjoy life. Can you show me your transparent track record where you made 2k a day for the last 90 days and what the max. risk used to be at any given point of trading that 10k account for 2k profits a day?
After trading futures for the better part of 8+ years, it is achievable. YMMV
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #545
  • Aug 10, 2025 3:22pm Aug 10, 2025 3:22pm
Quoting Noisy
{quote} Yeah sure… 2k/day on a 10k account = +20% return… This forum is better than comedy central… Everyone making 1-20% a day with just a little as a 10k account yet nobody can proof it and still writes to a prop trading topic because they are too bored sitting on the yacht and enjoy life. Can you show me your transparent track record where you made 2k a day for the last 90 days and what the max. risk used to be at any given point of trading that 10k account for 2k profits a day?
I've know crypto 7-8 years....we used to trade the same system in forex and I've learned quite a bit from him in futures.
I can't confirm or deny 10-20% daily, but he is an elite level trader.
  • #546
  • Aug 10, 2025 3:30pm Aug 10, 2025 3:30pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} I've know crypto 7-8 years....we used to trade the same system in forex and I've learned quite a bit from him in futures. I can't confirm or deny 10-20% daily, but he is an elite level trader.
Yeah buddy we go back a long time. The road traveled hasn't always been so smooth, but persistence eventually pays off.

PS: Good job putting this thread together. Was sorely needed.
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  • #547
  • Edited 4:17pm Aug 10, 2025 3:51pm | Edited 4:17pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} I've know crypto 7-8 years....we used to trade the same system in forex and I've learned quite a bit from him in futures. I can't confirm or deny 10-20% daily, but he is an elite level trader.
i would say he dont has 20% each day in average, thats bullshit. he is not so good how you think he is, maybe he is a profitable trader a little bit on the end, this nobody knows. but lets be realistic and dont trust total stupid words (then you can also trust navk with his fake stories)... this would make this thread Comedy.
  • #548
  • Aug 10, 2025 3:55pm Aug 10, 2025 3:55pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} Yeah buddy we go back a long time. The road traveled hasn't always been so smooth, but persistence eventually pays off. PS: Good job putting this thread together. Was sorely needed.
I tell my wife all of the time....if we didn't live in the US, I'd be comfortably retired long ago with profits from trading.
So frustrating when you know you have the skill set, but external forces prevent your success.
Truly, between hindering my personal accounts early on and my prop accounts later, I can literally blame EVERYTHING on one government agency.
As you said, persistence and determination will win in the end.
  • #549
  • Aug 10, 2025 4:13pm Aug 10, 2025 4:13pm
Quoting Noisy
Hello. What is the best possible/reliable futures remote prop trading provider currently that would also allow automated trading systems, Topstep? Do they also have such dubious, ridiculous rules alongside risk management rules?
I see nothing but good about Topstep on the YouTube, huge payouts, multiple payout, everyone gets a payout. Risky to post links but user Opinicus is a name to search.

They are a bit touchy on their Discord however.
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  • #550
  • Aug 10, 2025 5:41pm Aug 10, 2025 5:41pm
Quoting Erebus
{quote} I see nothing but good about Topstep on the YouTube, huge payouts, multiple payout, everyone gets a payout. Risky to post links but user Opinicus is a name to search. They are a bit touchy on their Discord however. {image}
Yes, you cannot go wrong with Topstep. Very reliable, 13+ years in biz. It is not mentioned much here, because you can get the same thing for about half the cost.....Tradeify, MFFU, TakeProfit and yes, I'll throw Tradeday in there.......all reliable, have never seen/heard a single payout issue at any of them.
  • #551
  • Edited 7:04pm Aug 10, 2025 5:47pm | Edited 7:04pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Yes, you cannot go wrong with Topstep. Very reliable, 13+ years in biz. It is not mentioned much here, because you can get the same thing for about half the cost.....Tradeify, MFFU, TakeProfit and yes, I'll throw Tradeday in there.......all reliable, have never seen/heard a single payout issue at any of them.
If Tradeday did not have the automatic position sizing algo that allows a 5 contract limit to expand up 25 contracts without firm intervention, then Topstep would be my choice, because it would come down to cost, as both are reliable. However, when you consider that for Topstep you will pay [($49*5) + (5*$149)] = $990 to get access to the same size that Tradeday will give you for $99 + your solid and consistent effort, it is a no brainer for me.
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  • #552
  • Aug 10, 2025 6:01pm Aug 10, 2025 6:01pm
Anyone using tradesyncer here? Wonder if IP becomes an issue for non US customers?

Also, submitted a payout request with fundingticks. Let's see if it gets approved.

Thinking about going with fundednext rapid, blusky, or tradeday. No luck with TPT so far. Failing their Pro stage due to the intraday DD.

Tradeday certainly seems interesting now with more accounts. Makes the 8 day to pass more palatable.
  • #553
  • Aug 10, 2025 6:31pm Aug 10, 2025 6:31pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} I've know crypto 7-8 years....we used to trade the same system in forex and I've learned quite a bit from him in futures. I can't confirm or deny 10-20% daily, but he is an elite level trader.
He must be able to buy the world. Without withdrawing his profits daily, his account would be worth $370,000 just after 20 days.

I should stop with my own trading (while not even making $10/day) and give him 10k to trade with? I’ll give him 90% of the profits made and he can open a few more 10k accounts. No-brainer to me!
  • #554
  • Aug 10, 2025 8:08pm Aug 10, 2025 8:08pm
Quoting Noisy
Without withdrawing his profits daily, his account would be worth $370,000 just after 20 days.
-To be fair, 2K/day on a 10K account is not the same as compounding 20%/day. I think you may have turned one into the other:

Quoting Noisy
Yeah sure… 2k/day on a 10k account = +20% return…
There are different approaches to trading. Making 2K/day or whatever amount does not mean that you do that consistently, in perpetuity. There are bound to be losses. But that does not mean that it is not a viable strategy.

As an example, I know of a few traders that start each month with 1K balance. They trade aggressively for the entire month and pull out all profits at the end of the month. The next month, they repeat the process.

If your win-rate is good enough, then you can do this over and over again, even while sustaining the occasional losses and blown accounts. You do not need to aim for millions to live comfortably, either. It is not realistic to compound the account forever, and this keeps your risk low.
  • #555
  • Aug 10, 2025 8:14pm Aug 10, 2025 8:14pm
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-To be fair, 2K/day on a 10K account is not the same as compounding 20%/day. I think you may have turned one into the other: {quote} There are different approaches to trading. Making 2K/day or whatever amount does not mean that you do that consistently, in perpetuity. There are bound to be losses. But that does not mean that it is not a viable strategy. As an example, I know of a few traders that start each month with 1K balance. They trade aggressively for the entire month and pull out all profits at the end of the month. The next month,...
Ahhh....all my long lost intelligent friends are stopping by...........Thank God. By the way, everyone, this is another elite level trader.
  • #556
  • Aug 11, 2025 12:45am Aug 11, 2025 12:45am
Hello Prop Firm Brains trust! Looking for some advice/recommendations on prop firms for a specific need. I scrolled through this forum and see there is a lot of very tech smart traders... that is not me and so I couldn't quite find what I was looking for.

I am looking for a recommendations for a prop firm company that will let me keep trades open for weeks or even months, through all news events ect. Basically big, long term swing trades, with simple manual entries and exits.

I know FTMO have this option. Any others people think are worth a look?
Thanks in advance!
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  • #557
  • Aug 11, 2025 2:16am Aug 11, 2025 2:16am
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-To be fair, 2K/day on a 10K account is not the same as compounding 20%/day. I think you may have turned one into the other: {quote} There are different approaches to trading. Making 2K/day or whatever amount does not mean that you do that consistently, in perpetuity. There are bound to be losses. But that does not mean that it is not a viable strategy. As an example, I know of a few traders that start each month with 1K balance. They trade aggressively for the entire month and pull out all profits at the end of the month. The next month,...
compounding gets for sure more difficult in bigger accounts, but with 2000/day you dont need to compound, you win with same trading amount same day (no compounding) the 2000/day and get near half a million USD each year with just 10.000 invested - so a very easy 5000% return for 1 year and same time you reduce risk near any day (and lets be realistic , increasing trading amount soft over the year would be without any problem, so real result should be around 1-10 million minimum if this trader existed). thatswhy many would call this talk from cryptosurf beginner level talk and far from anyone near elitetrader.

lets be realistic: of course you can have 2000 USD win when you trade very high risk to blow the 10.000 account , but this you need to mention (without this its simple bullshit talk) and the result will not look this impressive any more.

about this beginners who restart each month with very small amount of 1000 i cant say anything... someday they will trust their strategies more or find other strategies that dont blow up accounts so easy, so they can invest more and earn more than a normal worker (with 1000 invest the chance to earn more than a worker is not that big - when they blow even some of this accounts its extrem low chance ).
  • #558
  • Aug 11, 2025 3:57am Aug 11, 2025 3:57am
Everyone Futureselite is a pure BS'er now...
I received this.......

Mofo i took 9 trades none of them is tick scalped..... Every trade i held is more than 5 mins where the f**k is tick scalped
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  • #559
  • Aug 11, 2025 4:09am Aug 11, 2025 4:09am
sorry to post over here but experienced traders over here seem alot so asking it over here..im from india and use ic markets for trading and my withdrawl got reversed by my bank in india..any suggestions what can i do ? as banks are mostly clueless regarding this issue over here
  • #560
  • Aug 11, 2025 4:12am Aug 11, 2025 4:12am
Quoting Trader191
someday they will trust their strategies more or find other strategies that dont blow up accounts so easy, so they can invest more and earn more than a normal worker
-In my experience, the people that trade aggressively like this are not looking to compound their accounts over any meaningful period of time; they are looking to withdraw profits regularly, while maintaining very low risk.

The mindset and psychology are very different when your risk is negligible, and with each winning trade, you further-insulate your initial investment. You must have some confidence in your strategy in order to trade this way, I would say. Certainly, it is not for everyone.

As far as earning what a normal worker can, I am reluctant to speak about such things because I understand that some people will never believe what is possible, no matter what.
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