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  • #8,621
  • Jun 5, 2025 10:29am Jun 5, 2025 10:29am
Can anyone help me? how qm qorks ? and how iqm works? and why ?
Market is Open University, Just have To Do PHD
  • #8,622
  • Jun 10, 2025 2:52am Jun 10, 2025 2:52am
Quoting bishnuNewar
Can anyone help me? how qm qorks ? and how iqm works? and why ?
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/444458-up-and-under-price-pattern
  • #8,623
  • Jun 19, 2025 2:05am Jun 19, 2025 2:05am
hello traders,
hope everyone is fine.
first i thank IF for starting this thread. without it we would never know its possible to make it. am back to charts to try and figure this out once and for all. am trying to get history data back in 2019 to reverse engineer selfcontrol's trades but i have a challenge with M1 data. most of the data i can access cant go back then, so anyone who can help me and direct me to a source, i will be glad.
i see the thread doesnt have much actvity now, i assume many guys have already figured and are on holiday somewhere, but hope they can comeback and give some nuggets. this will help use live data.
i know its frustrating like it has been to me to lose account to account yet it seems easy to the guys who have figured it(makes u feel stupid. i encourage you to come back here and post and even hit me with a msg to avoid spamming here just to encourage eachother and work as a team to try and share insights on telegram.
please dont give up am here to encourage you.
will welcome any insights on my trade and thinking
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  • #8,624
  • Jun 20, 2025 8:34pm Jun 20, 2025 8:34pm
Quoting kfx2016
hello traders, hope everyone is fine. first i thank IF for starting this thread. without it we would never know its possible to make it. am back to charts to try and figure this out once and for all. am trying to get history data back in 2019 to reverse engineer selfcontrol's trades but i have a challenge with M1 data. most of the data i can access cant go back then, so anyone who can help me and direct me to a source, i will be glad. i see the thread doesnt have much actvity now, i assume many guys have already figured and are on holiday somewhere,...
no body figured out anything, sometimes selfcontrol origine or qml level holds sometimes it breaks, as any other pattern, there is no secret trust me , just do your subjective analysis about market structure or environment and maybe direction, then mark your zones you see as good probabilty, then manage your risk and trade, and work on your mindset.
  • #8,625
  • Jun 20, 2025 10:19pm Jun 20, 2025 10:19pm
Quoting kfx2016
hello traders, hope everyone is fine. first i thank IF for starting this thread. without it we would never know its possible to make it. am back to charts to try and figure this out once and for all. am trying to get history data back in 2019 to reverse engineer selfcontrol's trades but i have a challenge with M1 data. most of the data i can access cant go back then, so anyone who can help me and direct me to a source, i will be glad. i see the thread doesnt have much actvity now, i assume many guys have already figured and are on holiday somewhere,...
RTM seems to be a mystery of sorts.
The ones with the knowledge are willing to share mysteries but nothing more.
  • #8,626
  • Edited 5:35pm Jun 21, 2025 4:29am | Edited 5:35pm
Quoting snf
{quote} RTM seems to be a mystery of sorts. The ones with the knowledge are willing to share mysteries but nothing more.
there are no mysteries my friend, this idea of smart money originated from Wyckoff a century ago, market profile (high volume nodes,low volume nodes,...) was from the 80s, even some traders use sophisticated tools in other markets footprints, heatmaps,..., at the end there are traders winning with these methods and also traders losing with these methods, and there are traders winning using so called classical technichal analysis,and others complaining about it, the secret is that strategy is only 20 percent of the equation, money management, trade management,daily routine,discipline, and psychology are 80 percent of the equation.
  • #8,627
  • Jun 21, 2025 11:48pm Jun 21, 2025 11:48pm
Quoting benadil
{quote} there are no mysteries my friend, this idea of smart money originated from Wyckoff a century ago, market profile (high volume nodes,low volume nodes,...) was from the 80s, even some traders use sophisticated tools in other markets footprints, heatmaps,..., at the end there are traders winning with these methods and also traders losing with these methods, and there are traders winning using so called classical technichal analysis,and others complaining about it, the secret is that strategy is only 20 percent of the equation, money management,...
It's still a mystery to me.
I've never seen anyone about to explain RTM in a simplistic way.
  • #8,628
  • Edited 7:51am Jun 22, 2025 5:23am | Edited 7:51am
Quoting snf
{quote} It's still a mystery to me. I've never seen anyone about to explain RTM in a simplistic way.
because it is discretionary, what is fixed is only the past decision points, or fls , or kinks whatever you call them, but will you trade a reversal? a continuation? you have to decide what you see as higher probability, and this is subjective. so since decison points are fixed, what you can do is some top down analysis to have subjective bias about direction, and about the environment, is it a trending environment ? is it still a trend but it may reverse? and if it is still a trend what is the depth of retracement?is it a trading range? if it is i am in the middle of the range? will i trade in the middle of the range? did price tested the extreme of the range and is starting to reverse, and all this is time frame dependent, and all this is subjective. so the solution is to be selective, patient, embrace uncertainty, manage risk, manage trade, work on your mindset, journal,.... if you want simplicity go to sapari in youtube, but you will notice he doesnt address market structure, direction, top down analysis, because it is not possible to do, it is subjective. thats why you will never break the cycle, so analysis is not rigid what is fixed are the FLs because already they have happened in the past and they coud be a future support resistance areas thats all, if you accept that you are trading your beliefs about the market in terms of structure , directional bias, and areas that may bounce or reverse price, and these are only your personal beliefs, not the realities of market, and market can do whatever it fancies, and market doesnt care about you , your RTM method, your kinks, your subjective analysis, all what matters is to execute based on your beliefs , manage your risk and trade , in the long term you will be profitable.
so accept uncertainty my friend , markets are difficult to predict no matter how you try, it is not the fault of Ifmyante, or RTM, or anyone else, and you have volatility around news, rollover periods, and conditions do change, you think you are in a range suddenly market breaks and trends, you think you are in a trend suddenly market enters into a range or reverses the trend, you think market has reversed suddenly it continues the trend, you think it is a genuine breakout suddenly it is a fake breakout, you bet on a fake breakout, it turns into a true breakout, and on and on, if you accept uncertainty and you are only trading probabilities and your beliefs, you manage risk well, and the trades well, you can end up profitable.
  • #8,629
  • Jun 22, 2025 10:16am Jun 22, 2025 10:16am
Quoting benadil
{quote} because it is discretionary, what is fixed is only the past decision points, or fls , or kinks whatever you call them, but will you trade a reversal? a continuation? you have to decide what you see as higher probability, and this is subjective. so since decison points are fixed, what you can do is some top down analysis to have subjective bias about direction, and about the environment, is it a trending environment ? is it still a trend but it may reverse? and if it is still a trend what is the depth of retracement?is it a trading range?...
I fully understand that trading is all about probabilities and that nothing is guaranteed.

What I am saying is that the ones with the RTM knowledge don't share anything other than mysterious text.

I've yet to see someone explain in objective terms how to pick proper FLs/FTRs/kinks etc., far more for explaining the actual method.
  • #8,630
  • Jun 22, 2025 7:15pm Jun 22, 2025 7:15pm
RTM is way too subjective and too many terminologies. I can't imagine doing analysis trying to look for all that, it's exhausting and very pointless.

There is no mystery because it is not a strategy; it's just a bunch of concepts you learn and go about trying to use them to come up with trade ideas. There are no rules and we don't know if they are even profitable doing all that.

Sure you can pick up some concepts like FLs and Engulfs and come up with your own style and rules.

I suggest keeping your trading as objective as possible. Yes, there will still be discretion involved but knowing what to look for every time and having the same criteria for every trade just makes it so much better.
  • #8,631
  • Jun 23, 2025 10:54pm Jun 23, 2025 10:54pm
hello traders,
thank you for you reply. i believe everyone has their journey. regardless of the terminology, this thing works and i believe if we put time to it, its figurable. trust me no one is going to come and just give it to you. we should focus on ourselves and also achieve financial independence. i know it gets frustrating and its easy to say it doesnt work but these guys have done it over and over, u can see charts of many guys here.....it doesnt matter if they cherry pick but its only one trade that covers all losses due to high rr. anyone with more knowledge on scales and fractals will be welcome to share any chart coz its vague to me and i believe thats the gist of the matter. goodluck
  • #8,632
  • Jun 25, 2025 7:06am Jun 25, 2025 7:06am
Its darkness is lower ... than the next settlement, but I need so much for the Prague pass.
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  • #8,633
  • Jun 25, 2025 5:23pm Jun 25, 2025 5:23pm
Quoting Alisina1iran
Its darkness is lower ... than the next settlement, but I need so much for the Prague pass. {image}
explain this chart is possible tnx
  • #8,634
  • Jun 25, 2025 11:12pm Jun 25, 2025 11:12pm
I re-entered the trade because of the high time form diamond and eating into the high time form DP. Why did the first SL happen because it did not hit the main high time form levels and got FOMO hahaha.
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  • #8,635
  • Edited Jun 26, 2025 12:08am Jun 25, 2025 11:52pm | Edited Jun 26, 2025 12:08am
Quoting Alisina1iran
Its darkness is lower ... than the next settlement, but I need so much for the Prague pass. {image}
hello bro, good to see you here. please keep posting we can learn from you. thats crazy RR. kindly share how u engineer your set ups for sl entry and tp. we shall be glad to learn from you. just a question
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  • #8,636
  • Jun 26, 2025 12:45am Jun 26, 2025 12:45am
comments welcome
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  • #8,637
  • Edited 8:38am Jun 26, 2025 7:57am | Edited 8:38am
Quoting kfx2016
comments welcome {image}
Ok, you could have bet on continuation and tried an entry on the filled areas of either chart 1 or 2 with a tiny stop loss and precise entry. That’s hindsight, but a reasonable trade.
So, people asking for secrets — there are none. The possible direction is still up. The best areas to place trades are at the demand origins. We manage risk and trade. Is it a good probability setup? Well, yes. If it didn’t work, it’s ok — we don’t beat ourselves up; we move to the next reasonable setup and remain graceful. If it works, then ok, good — we should be thankful to the market that we landed on the right side of probability. Next, we move on humbly, waiting patiently for the next setups we identify as good probability, and always manage risk and our expectations.
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  • #8,638
  • Jun 26, 2025 8:07am Jun 26, 2025 8:07am
Well, this is my last entry on the Euro. I can say that the first and second trades I placed were stopped because I chose the wrong level when the price wanted to touch the higher level. The second one was stopped because the EXY correlation did not reach its level, which I had to wait until the market opened to enter the next level. Of course, I realized my second trade and exited quickly, and it was not stopped. Now we are on the third trade on the Euro. Ladies and gentlemen, wait for the space R. The target R is R. Wait until the market settles below R8 or R9. Engelf is for the upper scale because the upper scale trade. Engelf is for the upper scale. Follow it on the upper scale.
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  • #8,639
  • Jul 3, 2025 11:22pm Jul 3, 2025 11:22pm
Quoting Afgg
RTM is way too subjective and too many terminologies. I can't imagine doing analysis trying to look for all that, it's exhausting and very pointless. There is no mystery because it is not a strategy; it's just a bunch of concepts you learn and go about trying to use them to come up with trade ideas. There are no rules and we don't know if they are even profitable doing all that. Sure you can pick up some concepts like FLs and Engulfs and come up with your own style and rules. I suggest keeping your trading as objective as possible. Yes, there will...
I saw you say that the RTM system is too subjective.

This is very perplexing to say the least. How can a system that is supposed to be able to read the market to the exact pip be subjective?

Similarly I ask, how can there be no rules? A system that reads the market to the pip must have rules.
  • #8,640
  • Jul 4, 2025 4:08am Jul 4, 2025 4:08am
Anyone up for testing and learning my methods? I don't seem to be able to open a thread
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