Squeeze n Go | MTF System | Page 11 | Forex Factory

Options

Go to
Permalinks
Print Thread

Similar Threads

Spud's MTF FIB Breakout System 383 replies

H1Scalper System (MTF D1,H1,M5) 725 replies

MTF Trix system 3,697 replies

MTF Stochastics into MTF Stoch Histogram 8 replies

MTF Vajioo Scalping System 15 replies

Attachments: Squeeze n Go | MTF System
Exit Attachments

Squeeze n Go | MTF System

  • #201
  • Edited 7:00pm Jan 7, 2025 6:49pm | Edited 7:00pm
Quoting RickM
{quote} Hi pakeha That was a great post so thanks for sharing. I believe the EXIT is the hardest part of this strategy and one I struggled with for quite a while when I first started trading the Squeeze. Also I believe Exit strategy's differ from one market to another, for instance I use a set stop distance when trading shares with the Squeeze and use the 21 EMA as my Exit for Forex and Future Market setups. But even using the 21EMA as an Exit strategy is debatable by many traders because price has stalled and collapsing back to a loss when you...
The other option I am back-testing is when the RSI is above 75 after 6 candles (see green line on RSI on the chart below, or 25 if shorts), is to hold the trade until the blue Squeeze histogram bar displays... this way you can get more of the extended up moves... almost double the return in this example. Trying to find a way to get both the small and bigger moves.
Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: screenshot.png Size: 175 KB
  • #202
  • Jan 7, 2025 7:16pm Jan 7, 2025 7:16pm
Another example of two "hold longer" trades from earlier in 2024
Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: screenshot.png Size: 157 KB
  • #203
  • Jan 8, 2025 12:41am Jan 8, 2025 12:41am
Quoting RickM
{quote} Hi Merka I use VWAP if I am looking for Squeeze setups when trading on smaller timeframes with markets that do provide Level 2 data. No wise trader should go long if the VWAP value line is above a strong bearish move, unless it has moved out at least 2 deviations. Almost every single prop firm trader, hedge fund manager and banker these days is now trained to only BUY stock / Future contracts if price is over the daily VWAP line or SELL stock / Future contracts if price is under daily VWAP line.. A public confirmation of this trend was made...
Important information
I used BB-Keltner Squeeze-FVBO-2.0\EMA\ on tradingview
And then add what you said about vwap, a very useful weapon. Thank you.
  • #204
  • Jan 8, 2025 6:01am Jan 8, 2025 6:01am
Quoting driven18
{quote} I never look for quicker profits/exits. In trading, expression "you can not go wrong taking profits" is very wrong. You will go broke taking quick profits. I take full position, no add ons(do not like too much screen time and statistically it works better for me) and mark the furthest point that I believe PA can get to on whatever TF I am trading. And then Money Manage it without Fear and Greed.
If no fear involved means your edge is the "money managemen" and not the entry setup because no matter what price can go either directions hitting your TP/SL.
Isn't it?
It's clear you found your own nish edge over the market. Good on you.
Cheers
  • #205
  • Jan 9, 2025 6:00pm Jan 9, 2025 6:00pm
Hi, these are losing trades where I have lost full position, are they executed the right way?
Thanks.
Attached Image(s) (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: screenshot.png Size: 100 KB
Click to Enlarge Name: screenshot.png Size: 91 KB
  • #206
  • Edited 7:40pm Jan 9, 2025 6:06pm | Edited 7:40pm
My current position

Edit - Closed at BE
Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: Screenshot_20250109_190632_Photos.jpg Size: 330 KB
  • #207
  • Jan 10, 2025 8:15am Jan 10, 2025 8:15am
Quoting Ju4ara
Hi, these are losing trades where I have lost full position, are they executed the right way? Thanks. {image} {image}
Hi Ju4ara

My opinion is that was a C grade setup because the Squeeze Setup was occurring on a M1 chart and it was around the cross over of the London / New York Sessions.
I would forget trading Squeeze's on M1 because the Risk / Reward isn't great. I will trade M2 for A+ Setups or trade good setups on M5.

Lets see how it would have gone on M5 - if you had traded earlier, it would of been a great trade.

HINT - When trading Gold, forget taking any Squeeze sets Mid Session of London, they need to appear within 3 hours of London Open or DO NOT TRADE Them.
Look elsewhere.

Edit - M1 only works well on US500 after New York Open, Check out Rocky's thread.
Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: gold m5 ff.png Size: 103 KB
Trading thin liquidity at the boundary of the charts
  • #208
  • Jan 10, 2025 10:25am Jan 10, 2025 10:25am
Quoting RickM
{quote} Hi Ju4ara My opinion is that was a C grade setup because the Squeeze Setup was occurring on a M1 chart and it was around the cross over of the London / New York Sessions. I would forget trading Squeeze's on M1 because the Risk / Reward isn't great. I will trade M2 for A+ Setups or trade good setups on M5. Lets see how it would have gone on M5 - if you had traded earlier, it would of been a great trade. HINT - When trading Gold, forget taking any Squeeze sets Mid Session of London, they need to appear within 3 hours of London Open or DO NOT...
Hi RickM,
thanks a lot for sharing your wisdom. Where would you locate your sl then, because there after a few candles there is a candle with big wick which would take stoploss if was located just under signal candle’s 21 ema, these long-wicked candles often take me out of position, so what is your opinion on that? Also, would you share some more knowledge for timing and timeframes recommended to use in those time periods? I usually trade gold, us500 and us30 in london session, what would be your advise for these pairs(when to trade and in what timeframe for london session)? Thanks a lot.
  • #209
  • Jan 11, 2025 8:39am Jan 11, 2025 8:39am
Quoting Ju4ara
{quote} Hi RickM, thanks a lot for sharing your wisdom. Where would you locate your sl then, because there after a few candles there is a candle with big wick which would take stoploss if was located just under signal candle’s 21 ema, these long-wicked candles often take me out of position, so what is your opinion on that? Also, would you share some more knowledge for timing and timeframes recommended to use in those time periods? I usually trade gold, us500 and us30 in london session, what would be your advise for these pairs(when to trade and...
Hi Ju4ara

I always wait for the candle to close before I worry about the 21EMA been taken out, those long wicks are just liquidity runs which I ignore.
In the above case, No exit was needed because the close was above the 21EMA on M5.
If you are going to trade M1, rather than use the 21EMA, try using the Keltner Channel set to 1.5 as your exit instead.
On M2 or higher, the 21EMA is good to use - therefore skip M1 unless you trade US500 30 minutes after New York open.

So I mostly trade ES / NQ / Gold / Oil Future's during the London session and if I can stay up to 3am, the start of the New York session.
I may trade BITCOIN & EU Future's if something exciting is happening there.
I normally trade on M2 (but keep an eye on M5) where I am looking for Squeeze setups on those pairs based around price leaving the 21EMA.
I also look for Volatility Contraction Patterns inside a Squeeze Setup PLUS trade another Strategy I'm keeping under wraps till I create a THREAD on it sometime this year. - TRADING SNOW MONKEYS -

Houston we have a problem.

The chart on Future's M5 Gold directly from COMEX is very different from the CFD Gold chart (Chart 2 posts back) and if you had traded off that CFD chart - YOU WERE TRADING BLIND. The breakout candle on Gold Future's chart was 12 times higher in volume than any other candle on the chart and this information
WAS VERY IMPORTANT.
To develop this into a setup that offered A+++ - you needed to know which candle it was first, then secondary how to apply this knowledge into creating this fantastic trade entry that A+++ which was about 20 minutes earlier than your traded (Trading Snow Monkeys Strategy).

It was on Gold M5 Futures Chart, not Gold M5 CFD Chart -

Cheers
Trading thin liquidity at the boundary of the charts
  • #210
  • Jan 11, 2025 1:05pm Jan 11, 2025 1:05pm
Hi RickM,
thanks for info, waiting for your new thread, would like to gain knowledge from you.
  • #211
  • Jan 11, 2025 6:25pm Jan 11, 2025 6:25pm
What is a VCP Pattern
Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: VCP.png Size: 74 KB
Trading thin liquidity at the boundary of the charts
  • #212
  • Jan 11, 2025 9:41pm Jan 11, 2025 9:41pm
Quoting RickM
What is a VCP Pattern {image}
Great model there. I started exploring this concept a bit more and stumbled upon something.

Lovely script on TradingView that actually was awarded Editors Picks called Revolution Volatility Bands With Range Contraction Signal VII.

As stated by its author it's essentially volatility bands with a technical analysis pattern, the triangle/wedge, which he has called "contraction signal".

Put simply: When price is written in blue, volatility overall is falling. When the outer bands start to fatten up in blue, a contraction signal is forming. Works with any length of your choosing.

I've tested and this indicator produces squeezes that accurately align with TTM Squeeze Pro. Combined with the 21 EMA, it's another powerful tool to add to the arsenal.

Wait for price and bands to be blue then follow typical squeeze and go methodology. Works quite nicely.
Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: Screenshot_20250111_224647_Photos.jpg Size: 374 KB
  • #213
  • Jan 11, 2025 11:13pm Jan 11, 2025 11:13pm
Quoting RickM
What is a VCP Pattern {image}
aren’t we supposed to enter on break of range?
  • #214
  • Jan 12, 2025 1:14am Jan 12, 2025 1:14am
BTCUSD M10

Squeezy confluence.

Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: screenshot.png Size: 47 KB
Its all just one persons opinion
  • #215
  • Jan 12, 2025 6:26am Jan 12, 2025 6:26am
Quoting Ju4ara
{quote} aren’t we supposed to enter on break of range?
Yes if its a normal Squeeze.
If its a Squeeze + VCP Setup, get in early.
Trading thin liquidity at the boundary of the charts
  • #216
  • Jan 12, 2025 6:33am Jan 12, 2025 6:33am
Quoting RickM
What is a VCP Pattern {image}
Looks similar to Patrick Wieland's flag patterns........
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication - Leonardo da Vinci
  • #217
  • Edited 7:53am Jan 12, 2025 7:42am | Edited 7:53am
My observation and experience. I do not probe and do not split positions.

It is at most importance for this technique to come in full force on the very first retracement to EMA 21 and then burst away from 21.

Expression: ""The early bird gets the worm". This way you come in for a better Entry and better Stop loss.

If there was a squeeze before that first burst, that would make that set up A+, but if there is a strong push away from 21, squeeze is not that relevant.

Second, Third. etc. push is not as favorable statistically.
Attached Image (click to enlarge)
Click to Enlarge Name: screenshot.png Size: 41 KB
  • #218
  • Jan 12, 2025 4:13pm Jan 12, 2025 4:13pm
I have uploaded a couple of tools for this strategy. In this moment there have been 550 downloads. So there are many people that find an interest in this strategy. I think you guys should make a post saying hello to everybody and tell that you are following the thread. It is much more satisfying for OP and and other wise people if they know that there is an interest.
MetaTrader 4 - so many advantages.
  • #219
  • Edited 6:48pm Jan 12, 2025 6:20pm | Edited 6:48pm
Quoting heispark
{quote} Looks similar to Patrick Wieland's flag patterns........
Hi Heispark

I think you can draw parallels between many pattern shapes but the VCP Pattern was made popular by a Market Wizard who had the best yearly returns of any trader inviewed by Jack Schwager. Mark Minervini used it to twice win the US Investment Championship as an amateur and went on to run his own Hedge fund producing eye popping returns.

Minervini emphasizes that specific entry points are needed before you can enter a trade - this way you can be in profit almost straight away rather than suffer long periods of drawdown that destroys traders mindsets. My biggest trade size (Future's or Forex) I ever take is 10 contracts on ES (US500) which is about $120 per tick. A single candle can throw you into the Red $1,000 in under 10 seconds. Hell NO I want accurate entry if I trade that large otherwise the mental pain is very very painful.

The Volatility Contraction Pattern works because it creates an IMBALANCE of ASK'S on a Bullish Trend or an IMBALANCE of BID's on a Bearish Trend which creates an breakout.at the expense of reversal traders equity.
Trading thin liquidity at the boundary of the charts
  • #220
  • Jan 12, 2025 9:32pm Jan 12, 2025 9:32pm
Quoting RickM
{quote} Hi Ju4ara My opinion is that was a C grade setup because the Squeeze Setup was occurring on a M1 chart and it was around the cross over of the London / New York Sessions. I would forget trading Squeeze's on M1 because the Risk / Reward isn't great. I will trade M2 for A+ Setups or trade good setups on M5. Let's see how it would have gone on M5 - if you had traded earlier, it would have been a great trade. HINT - When trading Gold, forget taking any Squeeze sets Mid Session of London, they need to appear within 3 hours of London Open or DO...
So, is this basically a vcp pattern? And you enter right before a breakout when the squeeze appears and put your stop loss right below the 21ema, which makes your position more efficient, is that right?
0 traders viewing now