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  • #39,541
  • Jul 18, 2024 3:17pm Jul 18, 2024 3:17pm
Quoting youngD
I grabbed 10k account with FTMO with their current Cheap price and basically opened 10 Lots short with S&P and passed with one trade. I holded trade 3 days and didn't touch it. Lets see if FTMO Says anything about best short risky trade in this scary longterm uptrend just need Complete next 4 days. Its just 1 Phase so maybe they will not care much about it... Can i trade crypto on swing FTMO account during weekend on challenge?? Maybe this will speed up required 4 days {image}
Sounds like a smart idea…
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  • #39,542
  • Jul 18, 2024 3:48pm Jul 18, 2024 3:48pm
Quoting lddd
{quote} I hear this for the first time. Please refer me to where a „1% risk combined per trade/idea“ is written on FTMO‘s website. I talked to them a few days ago and they told me there is no specific percentage risk limit on a individual per trade base.
It's not written on their website, other than their suggestion in their tips on their blog: https://ftmo.com/en/gambling-is-not-...to-make-money/

However, they have frequently enforced this on funded accounts, just not on evals. They can enforce any rule they want to impose on you.
  • #39,543
  • Jul 18, 2024 4:22pm Jul 18, 2024 4:22pm
Quoting AaronPriest
{quote} It's not written on their website, other than their suggestion in their tips on their blog: https://ftmo.com/en/gambling-is-not-...to-make-money/ However, they have frequently enforced this on funded accounts, just not on evals. They can enforce any rule they want to impose on you.
Okay. I’ve personally never heard of a person who had to agree to new terms or a funded trader at FTMO affected by a risk per trade limit other than the 5% daily drawdown limit.
  • #39,544
  • Jul 18, 2024 5:19pm Jul 18, 2024 5:19pm
Quoting lddd
{quote} Okay. I’ve personally never heard of a person who had to agree to new terms or a funded trader at FTMO affected by a risk per trade limit other than the 5% daily drawdown limit.
Yeah, FTMO has often reduced overall risk % or leverage to reduce exposure on funded traders. They don't care if you use 1:100 leverage on the evals, but they don't like more than 1:5 or so on funded accounts. It's not written anywhere to my knowledge, but they will contact you and enforce it if you want to continue if you risk too much too often and look like a gambler to them. You either agree or lose the account.
  • #39,545
  • Jul 18, 2024 5:49pm Jul 18, 2024 5:49pm
Quoting lddd
I’ve personally never heard of a person who had to agree to new terms or a funded trader at FTMO affected by a risk per trade limit other than the 5% daily drawdown limit.
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  • #39,546
  • Jul 18, 2024 6:13pm Jul 18, 2024 6:13pm
Asia session trade hoping to tp hit before London open... this time aiming big 40 points which is totally against my 10-20 pointssecret sauce (PLus no more trailing can hold longer)... Reason being yesterday was huge selloff so gut feeling is asia will move it higher befoere NY make a new low or test the low . This is pure experience trades coz i have seen this DOW f**kery so many times....
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  • #39,547
  • Jul 19, 2024 12:13am Jul 19, 2024 12:13am
Quoting lddd
{quote} I didn’t see FTMO changed the rules. I‘m no lawyer but it you signed a legal binding contract saying x rules and you haven’t violated these rules i don’t see the problem. If you clearly violated a rule that you agreed to that’s another thing and you can be happy they didn’t terminate your funded account. However, if you intentionally risk 4% per trade, you should think about whether trading is right for you, especially for a prop company.
I seems you didn't understand what I said or you have made up your mind on what to say. If their rule says I can risk 5% per day and I risk 2.7% on Gold, is that a violation of the rule? How could you easily pass phase one challenge by risking 0.5% on each trade except you do not have any other job beside trading. I have paid job and I am only trading whenever I am off duty for side earning. I picked most of my trades on H4 chart and it's nearly impossible to trade Gold on that chart without risking up to 2% on a trade.

I copied part of their mail and showed you but you are still saying I was lucky they didn't ban me. How could you ban someone who hasn't violated written rules? Do you or they expect me to be checking what's in their mind before trading.

I've screen shot the entire mail and attached here (my name is covered in the mail because I've agreed to their suggestion) and you can point where I violated any of their rules. They have been paying directly into my bank account in England and their payments are so fast. I am only pointing out here for others who may still think that can have up to 4% floating loss (either on a single trade or cumulative positions).
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  • #39,548
  • Jul 19, 2024 12:33am Jul 19, 2024 12:33am
Quoting lddd
{quote} In his last message he was already talking about 4% risk on a trade. Maybe he doesn’t even know what he is doing or if he violated any rule he signed to or not? I am not here to defend FTMO. If he didn’t violate the rules there should be no problem and no reason for him to agree to a new individual agreement.
I would assume I never read that bolden part of your comment. I've seen over time that social media platforms make learners look like teachers in their speeches and that's only thing they do best TALK TALK & TALK and nothing more
  • #39,549
  • Jul 19, 2024 12:38am Jul 19, 2024 12:38am
Quoting navk
{quote} One can break down lots into small size so that no position will be in DD 0.5 to 1 % If a trader wishes to trade 4 lots, he can break the positions into 0.5 , 0.25 like that
It doesn't matter now. Your cumulative floating loss must not exceed 1% on funded account to be in their good book.
  • #39,550
  • Jul 19, 2024 12:58am Jul 19, 2024 12:58am
thank you everyone for posts about FTMO. Swing account is very good option nowadays. I will keep in mind if get funded account to not risk more than 1% anyway it will keep my account alive longer.

Can we trade crypto during weekend on swing account??
  • #39,551
  • Jul 19, 2024 3:17am Jul 19, 2024 3:17am
Quoting lddd
{quote} Okay. I’ve personally never heard of a person who had to agree to new terms or a funded trader at FTMO affected by a risk per trade limit other than the 5% daily drawdown limit.
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  • #39,552
  • Jul 19, 2024 3:26am Jul 19, 2024 3:26am
Quoting stirmatt
{quote} It doesn't matter now. Your cumulative floating loss must not exceed 1% on funded account to be in their good book.
cumulative floating loss rule says different.

It is strange what you mention here.
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Intraday only.
  • #39,553
  • Jul 19, 2024 3:38am Jul 19, 2024 3:38am
Quoting stirmatt
{quote} I seems you didn't understand what I said or you have made up your mind on what to say. If their rule says I can risk 5% per day and I risk 2.7% on Gold, is that a violation of the rule? How could you easily pass phase one challenge by risking 0.5% on each trade except you do not have any other job beside trading. I have paid job and I am only trading whenever I am off duty for side earning. I picked most of my trades on H4 chart and it's nearly impossible to trade Gold on that chart without risking up to 2% on a trade. I copied part of...
They talk of same side betting without risk management.

As long as you do not violate loss rules, they should not stop payouts.
Intraday only.
  • #39,554
  • Jul 19, 2024 3:40am Jul 19, 2024 3:40am
Quoting navk
{quote} cumulative floating loss rule says different. It is strange what you mention here. {image}
Cumulative floating loss and maximum daily loss aren’t the same thing. They don’t want more than 1% risk in open trades at once essentially. You can still lose 5x in a day on 5 different trade ideas if each had a cumulative 1% risk (regardless how many individual trades each idea was to break that 1% into smaller trades). I use 1% of my drawdown and not the account size and no one has ever complained about that.
  • #39,555
  • Jul 19, 2024 3:51am Jul 19, 2024 3:51am
Quoting AaronPriest
{quote} Cumulative floating loss and maximum daily loss aren’t the same thing. They don’t want more than 1% risk in open trades at once essentially. You can still lose 5x in a day on 5 different trade ideas if each had a cumulative 1% risk (regardless how many individual trades each idea was to break that 1% into smaller trades). I use 1% of my drawdown and not the account size and no one has ever complained about that.
Got it.

In open trades, they do not want more than 1 % DD.

However in a day 5 % dd and 10 % over all dd rule is fine.

Intraday only.
  • #39,556
  • Jul 19, 2024 3:52am Jul 19, 2024 3:52am
Quoting stirmatt
{quote} I seems you didn't understand what I said or you have made up your mind on what to say. If their rule says I can risk 5% per day and I risk 2.7% on Gold, is that a violation of the rule? How could you easily pass phase one challenge by risking 0.5% on each trade except you do not have any other job beside trading. I have paid job and I am only trading whenever I am off duty for side earning. I picked most of my trades on H4 chart and it's nearly impossible to trade Gold on that chart without risking up to 2% on a trade. I copied part of...
This has been discussed in the past here. I had received a similar email as well.
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  • #39,557
  • Jul 19, 2024 3:55am Jul 19, 2024 3:55am
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} This has been discussed in the past here. I had received a similar email as well.
good info
Intraday only.
  • #39,558
  • Edited 8:18pm Jul 19, 2024 3:56am | Edited 8:18pm
The Models so far:

Model 1. The Darwinex model, everything is good, except profit sharing should be at least 1/2 (50%) for traders (because Darwinex have a good risk engine system and it helps a lot) and the monthly subscription fee could be cheaper than 38 euros per month. Allocation start is good at 30K. Rating start is good at 75.

Model 2. The Axi model with 6 stages is too many and not necessary. It becomes failed model. It should have a single evaluation stage like Darwinex and monthly fee. The 500 USD deposit is expensive. However, the profit sharing is very good at 90% but this too excessive. It should be 2/3 (67%) for traders. No more account less than 30K.

Model 3. The average model of all proprietary firms and brokers should only have a single evaluation phase with the best score scale and monthly fee. The standard profit target should be 5.95% (a month). The maximum total balance loss is okay fix at 10%. Profit sharing is excellent at up to 90%, but this is excessive. It should be 2/3 (67%) for traders. No more account less than 30k.
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  • #39,559
  • Jul 19, 2024 4:14am Jul 19, 2024 4:14am
Quoting T721
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Did they show you how to make funny memes in the nursing home? I am impressed. Are you losing followers here or why are you suddenly quoting me again, I thought you had put me on your ignore list. Come on, go feed the ducks in the park and leave me alone.
  • #39,560
  • Jul 19, 2024 4:19am Jul 19, 2024 4:19am
Quoting AaronPriest
{quote} Cumulative floating loss and maximum daily loss aren’t the same thing. They don’t want more than 1% risk in open trades at once essentially. You can still lose 5x in a day on 5 different trade ideas if each had a cumulative 1% risk (regardless how many individual trades each idea was to break that 1% into smaller trades). I use 1% of my drawdown and not the account size and no one has ever complained about that.
I'm sorry, but FTMO doesn't communicate this anywhere and it's not in the rules. Can you provide some facts/evidence instead of just making such claims?
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