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  • #12,141
  • Dec 20, 2023 11:26pm Dec 20, 2023 11:26pm
Quoting aptx
{quote} LOL currently I am just too busy admiring it so really not looking at staying in positions or targets ! Honestly its like a work of art which you dont think of "using" but just "admiring" :-)
I was looking at this bitcoin swing trade, where the channels are suggesting price may have topped but the focal point is suggesting higher to $48750 ish. In this situation the MM square is supporting the focal point projection. So in this situation, that extra confirmation may keep you in the trade (for better or worse)
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  • #12,142
  • Dec 21, 2023 12:07am Dec 21, 2023 12:07am
there is a reason why GANN square price and time.

GANN made it simple to apply and learn, but everyone after him complicated everything he stand for.

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"the public is not yet ready for it" W.D. GANN
  • #12,143
  • Dec 21, 2023 12:22am Dec 21, 2023 12:22am
Quoting Kwt4x
there is a reason why GANN square price and time. GANN made it simple to apply and learn, but everyone after him complicated everything he stand for. {image} {image} {image}
Not so simple to apply, that's why there's so many doing it incorrectly and why Murrey's division or multiplication of 3125 to calculate octaves has been popular
  • #12,144
  • Dec 21, 2023 12:35am Dec 21, 2023 12:35am
Quoting tmpascoe
{quote} Not so simple to apply, that's why there's so many doing it incorrectly and why Murrey's division or multiplication of 3125 to calculate octaves has been popular
thank you for proving my point

GANN says it's simple, you say it's not
"the public is not yet ready for it" W.D. GANN
  • #12,145
  • Dec 21, 2023 2:34am Dec 21, 2023 2:34am
Hi, Parisboy, the legend, I have a problem, please, maybe you have pag. 149, 150,153, 154 of this book MSJ, Day Trading for 50 years.
Thank you
  • #12,146
  • Dec 21, 2023 3:21am Dec 21, 2023 3:21am
assuming that the intersection of MA 16 and 32 constitutes a middle. Where are we on the graph below in real time? we have a high and a low with which I can calculate a midpoint. if we take up the hypothesis that this medium must be the crossing of an MA 16 and 32 we currently see that the MA 16 in red is above our medium. so there will be no crossover in this area and prices can currently only go up. the current highest will therefore exceed... right?

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  • #12,147
  • Dec 21, 2023 3:55am Dec 21, 2023 3:55am
Quoting tmpascoe
{quote} I was looking at this bitcoin swing trade, where the channels are suggesting price may have topped but the focal point is suggesting higher to $48750 ish. In this situation the MM square is supporting the focal point projection. So in this situation, that extra confirmation may keep you in the trade (for better or worse){image}
Yes, I would rather wait for price to hit the 8/8 or book only partial profits in this scenario
  • #12,148
  • Dec 21, 2023 4:01am Dec 21, 2023 4:01am
Quoting Fractales
assuming that the intersection of MA 16 and 32 constitutes a middle. Where are we on the graph below in real time? we have a high and a low with which I can calculate a midpoint. if we take up the hypothesis that this medium must be the crossing of an MA 16 and 32 we currently see that the MA 16 in red is above our medium. so there will be no crossover in this area and prices can currently only go up. the current highest will therefore exceed... right? {image}
Fractales- you need to read Hurst and understand the basic properties of MA. Understand what it means when the MA changes direction- where is price at that time and where its headed. As PB mentions, stick to one instrument - switch to one minute time frame and only observe. What you see will fascinate you.
  • #12,149
  • Dec 21, 2023 4:05am Dec 21, 2023 4:05am
Terry some tests today:

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  • #12,150
  • Edited 5:38am Dec 21, 2023 4:26am | Edited 5:38am
Quoting Kwt4x
there is a reason why GANN square price and time. GANN made it simple to apply and learn, but everyone after him complicated everything he stand for. {image} {image} {image}
could you enlightened us on this reason and on how Gann make it simple to apply and learn?

thanks in advance
  • #12,151
  • Dec 21, 2023 4:36am Dec 21, 2023 4:36am
Quoting aptx
Terry some tests today: {image} {image} {image}
Hi APTX, your MML is hidden on these ones. I hope they did well.
  • #12,152
  • Dec 21, 2023 5:20am Dec 21, 2023 5:20am
No one has these pages from the MSJekins book please
149, 150,153, 154 of this book MSJ, Day Trading for 50 years.
Thank you
  • #12,153
  • Dec 21, 2023 5:54am Dec 21, 2023 5:54am
Quoting tmpascoe
FLD's are not just useful for pattern recognition & targeting, they can also be used as support/resistance. This is a smoothed 32 day FLD providing excellent support for Bitcoin since the bottom.{image}
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  • #12,154
  • Dec 21, 2023 7:44am Dec 21, 2023 7:44am
Quoting tmpascoe
FLD's are not just useful for pattern recognition & targeting, they can also be used as support/resistance. This is a smoothed 32 day FLD providing excellent support for Bitcoin since the bottom.{image}
Hi tmpascoe,

I agree about the FLD's. Of all that is shared here I see they are some of the best for doing what you describe. Would you share you settings for those you use? Thank you.

Everything is simple for those that know what they are doing.
  • #12,155
  • Dec 21, 2023 7:57am Dec 21, 2023 7:57am
Quoting acetrader
{quote} Hi tmpascoe, I agree about the FLD's. Of all that is shared here I see they are some of the best for doing what you describe. Would you share you settings for those you use? Thank you. Everything is simple for those that know what they are doing.
This is the FLD indicator I use. https://www.tradingview.com/script/6c5lRGEg-FLDs/
  • #12,156
  • Dec 21, 2023 8:32am Dec 21, 2023 8:32am
Quoting aMario
No one has these pages from the MSJekins book please 149, 150,153, 154 of this book MSJ, Day Trading for 50 years. Thank you
these pages do not exist in the PDF's

may be available for 5.000 $ in a private mentoring lesson ?
  • #12,157
  • Dec 21, 2023 9:06am Dec 21, 2023 9:06am
NQ1:
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Stick to the plan!
  • #12,158
  • Dec 21, 2023 2:55pm Dec 21, 2023 2:55pm
Quoting tmpascoe
{quote}This is the FLD indicator I use. https://www.tradingview.com/script/6c5lRGEg-FLDs/
tmpascoe,
Thank you for sharing that. I forgot to mention I only use MT4 & MT5 charts. How might I achieve the FLD's set to octaves using MT4 & MT5? Is that possible?
  • #12,159
  • Dec 21, 2023 3:17pm Dec 21, 2023 3:17pm
Hi Parisboy,

When you return to the scene of trading I have a few questions that I would like your views on.

1. Do you find any merit in anything Gann shared as I know you have posted much info about him? If so, what do you consider to be the best of what he shared?

2. Do you think our friend Murrey derived his MM from Gann's Square of Nine?

3. Do you think The Delta Phenomenon is derived from Gann? If so, could it also come from the Square of Nine?

5. How can a trader using MT4 or MT5 duplicate the FLD's that you post from time to time? When I say duplicate, I mean as far as what to use...
are they MA's. I have one chart on a currency pair that I use SMA 20 off set ahead by 10. Is that a correct start? The SMA seem to offer good support & resistance. Please enlighten me.


I have a totally different method of trading than what is shared on your thread & you & others might say, well what are you doing on this thread. Well, ever since I discovered your great thread I have followed along as I have always had a keen interest in Gann, Cycles, FLD's & other related matters. Last but certainly NOT LEAST I have found no one that holds & willingly shares the vast amount of knowledge pertaining to Gann, Cycles as you do. For that I THANK YOU.

Looking forward to your thoughts & views on these questions. Thank you.
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  • #12,160
  • Dec 21, 2023 3:20pm Dec 21, 2023 3:20pm
Quoting parisboy
{quote} these pages do not exist in the PDF's may be available for 5.000 $ in a private mentoring lesson ?
0005 numerologically speaking. Ok Ok Do not worry
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