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  • #11,641
  • Nov 28, 2023 8:09am Nov 28, 2023 8:09am
Quoting tmpascoe
{quote} Perhaps that's the point that the square should radiate from - possible answer to where to start the square
It is a Possibility too. It would be useful to check this option on a Daily or Weekly Chart

Having 2 or 3 Charts to follow as a long term investor is not a real problem.
  • #11,642
  • Nov 28, 2023 8:14am Nov 28, 2023 8:14am
Quoting parisboy
Chart Center of Gravity / Inflexion Point {image}
Its good sitting back and watching you two guys debating
as I have to admit your both above my pay grade
But happy to sit at the back of the classroom
So please keep it coming
  • #11,643
  • Nov 28, 2023 8:20am Nov 28, 2023 8:20am
Quoting OAPDave
{quote} Its good sitting back and watching you two guys debating as I have to admit your both above my pay grade But happy to sit at the back of the classroom So please keep it coming
I'm in the back row with you Dave, just occasionally shouting out something that by pure chance makes sense

Alain is the school master up the front at the blackboard .
  • #11,644
  • Nov 28, 2023 8:52am Nov 28, 2023 8:52am
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  • #11,645
  • Nov 28, 2023 9:28am Nov 28, 2023 9:28am
Looks like
Black Friday & Santa
are keeping Microsoft happy ?
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  • #11,646
  • Nov 28, 2023 10:23am Nov 28, 2023 10:23am
Doubling of the Price Range
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  • Nov 28, 2023 10:34am Nov 28, 2023 10:34am
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  • #11,648
  • Edited 11:32am Nov 28, 2023 10:43am | Edited 11:32am
Quoting tmpascoe
{quote} I'm in the back row with you Dave, just occasionally shouting out something that by pure chance makes sense Alain is the school master up the front at the blackboard .
Terry I am just cloning some colored Horizontal Lines on charts and writing some description with Paint.
  • #11,649
  • Nov 28, 2023 10:49am Nov 28, 2023 10:49am
BTCUSD 5 mn

A Parabolic Move at work
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  • Edited 12:15pm Nov 28, 2023 11:43am | Edited 12:15pm
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  • Nov 28, 2023 4:38pm Nov 28, 2023 4:38pm
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  • #11,652
  • Nov 28, 2023 7:42pm Nov 28, 2023 7:42pm
Just a thought, but, if bitcoin has a rhythm based on an octave of its previous swing, then that previous swing also moved to potentially the same octave and all of bitcoin's price history must also have moved to that same octave, or a smaller octave of that octave. Additionally, due to commonality, every stock, future, FX pair & any other entity is also swinging to the exact same rhythm.
Quite amazing when you think about it - sorry just thinking out loud.
  • #11,653
  • Nov 28, 2023 7:43pm Nov 28, 2023 7:43pm
Quoting parisboy
{quote} Terry I am just cloning some colored Horizontal Lines on charts and writing some description with Paint.
haha - if only it was that simple.
  • #11,654
  • Nov 29, 2023 2:07am Nov 29, 2023 2:07am
DAX m1:
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Stick to the plan!
  • #11,655
  • Nov 29, 2023 2:16am Nov 29, 2023 2:16am
Cable daily, i took profit because it hit the monthly range high. Now waiting for a retrace in December to reentry:
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  • #11,656
  • Nov 29, 2023 2:25am Nov 29, 2023 2:25am
Parisboy, Dave & others willing to respond.

What is your view on Gann's Square of 9 for trading? I feel it has some connection to our friend Murrey's Math.

If you use one of the freely available Square of Nine software's & allow a 5-point difference in when the software tells you to enter long or short the results seem to be very reasonable especially if you take the trend into consideration.

Your views & comments are most welcome.
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  • #11,657
  • Nov 29, 2023 2:46am Nov 29, 2023 2:46am
[quote=tmpascoe;14670956]Just a thought, but, if bitcoin has a rhythm based on an octave of its previous swing, then that previous swing also moved to potentially the same octave and all of bitcoin's price history must also have moved to that same octave, or a smaller octave of that octave. Additionally, due to commonality, every stock, future, FX pair & any other entity is also swinging to the exact same rhythm. Quite amazing when you think about it - sorry just thinking out loud. [/quot


That's why I am having a look at Shares
but mt4 does not give me enough history to really help
  • #11,658
  • Nov 29, 2023 3:34am Nov 29, 2023 3:34am
Quoting acetrader
Parisboy, Dave & others willing to respond. What is your view on Gann's Square of 9 for trading? I feel it has some connection to our friend Murrey's Math. If you use one of the freely available Square of Nine software's & allow a 5-point difference in when the software tells you to enter long or short the results seem to be very reasonable especially if you take the trend into consideration. Your views & comments are most welcome. ___________________________________________
Only played with it for a short time, on Forex, found it OK
but
a little tiresome having to keep using the internet based ones
At the time I could not find a good
MT4 one so gave up
Summary
I think like most things it as its merits
ps
Have you got a MT4 chart based one
and if so can you post a few examples as I would like to see how it preforms on Shares ?
Thanks
  • #11,659
  • Nov 29, 2023 4:34am Nov 29, 2023 4:34am
Quoting OAPDave
{quote} Only played with it for a short time, on Forex, found it OK but a little tiresome having to keep using the internet based ones At the time I could not find a good MT4 one so gave up Summary I think like most things it as its merits ps Have you got a MT4 chart based one and if so can you post a few examples as I would like to see how it preforms on Shares ? Thanks
Hi Dave,
I agree totally it is tiresome using a non MT4 indicator. The one I use is code into Excel. Would like to have one in MT4 format that looks like the one I use but have been unable to locate one. No sure one could be coded in MT4 format. Thank you for your response.
  • #11,660
  • Nov 29, 2023 4:55am Nov 29, 2023 4:55am
Quoting acetrader
Parisboy, Dave & others willing to respond. What is your view on Gann's Square of 9 for trading? I feel it has some connection to our friend Murrey's Math. If you use one of the freely available Square of Nine software's & allow a 5-point difference in when the software tells you to enter long or short the results seem to be very reasonable especially if you take the trend into consideration. Your views & comments are most welcome. ___________________________________________
As Dave I invested a lot of time and effort but ended nowhere !

IMHO it is a dead end road. It has no analysis capability, no predictive capability, and no trading capability - even in hindsight.

Gann never showed us ONE trade done with a Square of X. Gann never described a trade with a Square of Y.

No people I know has ever done that on a regular basis.

The best you can get is to show that if your Square of X is tuned with the right Initial Point (how do you select this Zero Point ?) and with the operative interval between 2 successive numbers of your Square (how do you choose this interval ?), in this case there will be a relationship between say 2 Lows or 2 Tops or one Low and one Top. In the best case both points will be on the same axis.

To improve your success rate you can try to show that both points are located on 2 axis making an angle of Z° (45, 90, 135,180, 225 etc

This methodology does not suit to me. More important in 25 years working with "Gann tools" I never saw somebody or a thread using Squares of XYZ with reasonable positive results.
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