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  • #26,381
  • Nov 18, 2023 4:17am Nov 18, 2023 4:17am
Quoting wansiman
If you breach a Daily DD rule you don't get your profits paid by Ryze Funding and MyFlashFunding. What if you worked for months to build your account ? {image} {image}
Hardly seems fair doesn't it?
  • #26,382
  • Nov 18, 2023 4:26am Nov 18, 2023 4:26am
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} Now he is launching some king of live training or so.... https://twitter.com/LiveMicTrader1/s...10832124993582
The typical scammer. So he cannot trade for a living and therefore needs to sell education, trainings and courses, etc...
  • #26,383
  • Nov 18, 2023 4:26am Nov 18, 2023 4:26am
Quoting CableJ
MFF Update... Having considered the matter, THE COURT FINDS that there is good cause to extend the time for Defendants to answer, move or otherwise respond to the complaint from November 22, 2023, to January 22, 2024. This extension will allow the Parties to address pending disputes with the Court-appointed special master. Therefore, the Court GRANTS the parties’ joint request. Accordingly, Defendants shall answer, move or otherwise respond to the Complaint no later than January 22, 2024. IT IS SO ORDERED. MFF is also asking court to force the CFTC...
Oh dear...this is taking forever, not good...
  • #26,384
  • Nov 18, 2023 4:28am Nov 18, 2023 4:28am
Quoting TrAndy1
The typical scammer. So he cannot trade for a living and therefore needs to sell education, trainings and courses, etc...
-He's offering it for free.
  • #26,385
  • Nov 18, 2023 4:34am Nov 18, 2023 4:34am
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-He's offering it for free.
That is a trick. Just to get most of attention and subscribed users. Then after a certain point, there will be paid options. It is the old trick...

If you had found an edge, would you tell this everybody for free and publish this all over the internet ? The edge could erase and exploited soon. Then no money could be further made from. No way anyone would do this. It is much too hard to find such an edge.
  • #26,386
  • Nov 18, 2023 4:43am Nov 18, 2023 4:43am
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} That is a trick. Just to get most of attention and subscribed users. Then after a certain point, there will be paid options. It is the old trick... If you had found an edge, would you tell this everybody for free and publish this all over the internet ? The edge could erase and exploited soon. Then no money could be further made from. No way anyone would do this. It is much too hard to find such an edge.
Your edge was so good that you feel from great heights as a supposed Future’s baller to talking on a FX forum.

Scamming is something you also know well after your non stop shilling of FXProp scammers.

Self awareness is lacking with you.
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #26,387
  • Edited 6:22am Nov 18, 2023 5:47am | Edited 6:22am
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-He's offering it for free.
when you are some time in Business you know that doing it for free says nothing about how big you can earn from something.

the typical scam is like this:
you do it for free and create a big base of followers, not showing your account data , so you never prove you are a winner or loser , you just show some trades so enough people will believe you.

then 2 possibilities to get money out of this:
1. after some time you bring the people to a bad or half good broker and get paid by any trade they by do or one time fee.
2. you start trading real money now and start doing smaller futures like Dax and because many follow you, you frontrun the people and take only some points and go out and earn by this big.

best is do 1. and 2. together, so you can show big wins and same time earn big double.

when someone from a prop account will do it, it is also a good chance that he is simple working for the prop company (intern or extern connected), because on the company server they can create any trade for him (same like MT4 server buyer did cheat people with scams about presenting crazy good trading systems and trades in own fake broker), no loss happens and no win because all is not for real money (just some numbers on a screen), so they can make him very big money wins and get paid out papers what never happens of course (or even pay out for commercial and get back with crypto or other business or just give him the money for all his commercial work done). and they make big education around this as direct commercial how good is this trader (who dont know anything about trading) and how good is this prop company. its a old done scam because its the most easy and best commercial props can do , people are obsessed for big wins and big numbers even when they calculate they cant happen so easy very short-term. i would not even guess the number how many of the big winner from props are commercial agents, showing such winners is best commercial you can do.

so many red flags, when you know props and the markets for years you would see its near best possibility for a prop to do a scam like this all the time. anyone would scam like this when we would have such companies, because its the crazy best marketing ... showing fake winners, showing fake high wins, lets this fake traders do commercial for me with education and bring new clients or trades..... anyone would do because its so total easy to do with such a big result on your marketing and reputation , and so its done!
same like in any games (props are only this), you can always give money to connected winners for best commercial without any cost. when people understand that the props we speak here about are just simple trading games, they can recognize more easy how you would increase your profit with such a company (or just have to behave that there is even a profit) and how you do your marketing easy and effective.
  • #26,388
  • Nov 18, 2023 5:55am Nov 18, 2023 5:55am
Today I purchased an order on FX2 Funding and the cost for 10k was 95 dollars. I will begin my challenge on Monday when the market is resumed In Sha Allah
  • #26,389
  • Nov 18, 2023 8:32am Nov 18, 2023 8:32am
Quoting CableJ
MFF Update... Having considered the matter, THE COURT FINDS that there is good cause to extend the time for Defendants to answer, move or otherwise respond to the complaint from November 22, 2023, to January 22, 2024. This extension will allow the Parties to address pending disputes with the Court-appointed special master. Therefore, the Court GRANTS the parties’ joint request. Accordingly, Defendants shall answer, move or otherwise respond to the Complaint no later than January 22, 2024. IT IS SO ORDERED. MFF is also asking court to force the CFTC...
and it begs the question.........did they unjustly freeze MFF simply for the desired outcome.......FX props do not survive and they only needed one action......freeze MFF. They are the CFTC, so even if found in the wrong, what will happen? Absolutely nothing.
So, the best firm is frozen and most of the others will simply fail to survive. How many lives were impacted? Who's responsible?
  • #26,390
  • Edited 10:41am Nov 18, 2023 8:44am | Edited 10:41am
Quoting TrAndy1
That is a trick. Just to get most of attention and subscribed users. Then after a certain point, there will be paid options. It is the old trick...
-Maybe. But I prefer to give people the benefit of the doubt in lieu of making judgments based on assumptions. For example, I could have joined in when so many here have made judgments about you, but I do not know you or anything about your experience, so better not to judge. Right?

Quoting TrAndy1
If you had found an edge, would you tell this everybody for free and publish this all over the internet ? The edge could erase and exploited soon. Then no money could be further made from. No way anyone would do this. It is much too hard to find such an edge.
-Some people genuinely want to help others succeed by paying it forward. I also do not think that having many people trading the same way as I do would cause me to lose money. Even if I could fully-articulate every aspect of my trading, it would be difficult for everyone to trade exactly the way that I do. But even if they could, it would not worry me. If anything, it would help since whatever direction I am going will only be amplified by an army of traders.
  • #26,391
  • Nov 18, 2023 9:10am Nov 18, 2023 9:10am
Quoting pipmaster77
and it begs the question.........did they unjustly freeze MFF simply for the desired outcome
-As you know, this tactic is part of their playbook. They will not be held accountable. All they needed was reasonable suspicion, and even that can be fabricated. But good luck proving anything.

The trading community here in the states is already relatively small, comparatively speaking. And many of those that do trade, have some delusional ideas about the supposed benevolent nature of the various regulatory groups that operate within this country.

The war on crypto has, more often than not, provided a false sense of justification for these regulatory groups to continue operating unchecked, but things are slowly changing. The more that the SEC and CFTC overstep and/or have slip-ups like what we have seen with Binance and MFF, the more unwanted attention that they may bring onto themselves by exposing their true nature and intentions. It can take time.

Politicians are calling for reform within the SEC and the removal of Chair Gensler. These are positive developments that will hopefully bring more awareness to some of the problems that we are seeing. This will be critical for invoking any real change in a space where our voices are few and often go unheard.

Short of creating a change.org petition and blasting it out to anyone that will listen, or writing directly to State congressmen/women etc., all we can do is wait and hope for the best, I suppose. Talking about these issues, bringing awareness to them and educating others etc. can also help.
  • #26,392
  • Nov 18, 2023 10:32am Nov 18, 2023 10:32am
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} The typical scammer. So he cannot trade for a living and therefore needs to sell education, trainings and courses, etc...
Can you?
  • #26,393
  • Nov 18, 2023 10:54am Nov 18, 2023 10:54am
Hi guys, have a questions toward people with ACG and trade copying accounts.
I wanted to ask are you able to trade from your personal account sending signals to ACG? I'm asking because they have the min lot of 0.1 instead of 0.01. I'm guessing you can't do it via lot multiplier because if you place a 0.53 lot on your account then it won't go through with ACG, but If you were to do risk multiplier by balance would it work then? Like if the risk is multiplied so I risk the 250$ on the acg account will it go through by rounding the number to 0.1 or also not go through if that would mean in reality it would have to be 2.13 lot or whatever.
  • #26,394
  • Nov 18, 2023 12:17pm Nov 18, 2023 12:17pm
Guys hi! What about infinity forex funds, they pay ?
  • #26,395
  • Nov 18, 2023 12:22pm Nov 18, 2023 12:22pm
Quoting rehmatkhan00
Today I purchased an order on FX2 Funding and the cost for 10k was 95 dollars. I will begin my challenge on Monday when the market is resumed In Sha Allah
Strange choice but good luck and let us know about your experience.

There are several other props with better prices for a 10K one-step with the same rules and a reputation as good or better than FX2.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #26,396
  • Nov 18, 2023 12:26pm Nov 18, 2023 12:26pm
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} That is a trick. Just to get most of attention and subscribed users. Then after a certain point, there will be paid options. It is the old trick... If you had found an edge, would you tell this everybody for free and publish this all over the internet ? The edge could erase and exploited soon. Then no money could be further made from. No way anyone would do this. It is much too hard to find such an edge.
I've been offering my system for free for several years and I'm not a scammer.

Of course my system sucks, so there's that.....
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #26,397
  • Edited 2:18pm Nov 18, 2023 1:58pm | Edited 2:18pm
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} That is a trick. Just to get most of attention and subscribed users. Then after a certain point, there will be paid options. It is the old trick... If you had found an edge, would you tell this everybody for free and publish this all over the internet ? The edge could erase and exploited soon. Then no money could be further made from. No way anyone would do this. It is much too hard to find such an edge.
Well -hope you don't mind be popping in again but some people here are more interested in their own perceptions or follow the herd of opinion makers on this thread. I am denigrated if I post sites for Props I think might be considered ( not that I use any prop firm) FTP and 5%percenters for example. For some reason it seems
( reading peoples questions on prop discord sites and FF) that candidates are simply gamblers who are underfunded to trade via non prop channels ( Futures firms like Tradestation or AMP Futures or CFD trading outside of America or spread betting in the UK) so they treat their benefit cheques as a grub stake in the cheapest prop firm and blow it all , or they are simply lazy. Yes - some more successful traders may get a payout after jumping through the various hoops to get a live account. Save your money and get a normal broker acccount with no challenges to pass except to manage your money and know how to treat trading as a business. Now - Edge - Think "Turtle Traders." They were given an "edge" but results were different for each of those individuals involved. Some had varying degrees of success, others failed. The system is well known all over the internet yet the market has not collapsed because of the activities of "Turtle Traders." So what you write is not correct.
every Saint has a past. Every Sinner has a Future
  • #26,398
  • Nov 18, 2023 2:12pm Nov 18, 2023 2:12pm
Quoting turnip15
{quote} Well -hope you don't mind be popping in again but some people here are more interested in their own perceptions or follow the herd of opinion makers on this thread. Now - Edge - Think "Turtle Traders." They were given an "edge" but results were different for each of those individuals involved. Some had varying degrees of success, others failed. The system is well known all over the internet yet the market has not collapsed because of the activities of "Turtle Traders." So what you write is not correct.
An Exception. Good luck on your search then. I would not care about public educators, etc.. Over the years from time to time looking I could never find anything here.
  • #26,399
  • Nov 18, 2023 2:26pm Nov 18, 2023 2:26pm
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} An Exception. Good luck on your search then. I would not care about public educators, etc.. Over the years from time to time looking I could never find anything here.
Do you actually read what people write ? I am not searching but commenting. Visiting FF is for amusement in the main. But you are almost write when you write "over the years" - a lot of FF threads are garbage albeit entertaining and in a morass of FF literary manure one can sometimes ( only sometimes but rarely) find an idea of interest to assist one's own approach to trading.
every Saint has a past. Every Sinner has a Future
  • #26,400
  • Nov 18, 2023 3:42pm Nov 18, 2023 3:42pm
Quoting turnip15
{quote} Visiting FF is for amusement in the main. But you are almost write when you write "over the years" - a lot of FF threads are garbage albeit entertaining and in a morass of FF literary manure one can sometimes ( only sometimes but rarely) find an idea of interest to assist one's own approach to trading.
FF is one of the few remaining trading forums where people are actually trying to figure out the business of trading. What few forums remain have largely been abandoned by anyone trying to solve the market and instead are home to bitter nay-saying trolls.

We have that here too, but by and large FF people are good people trying to help and support one another. Elsewhere people are there to tear others down.

I for one am thankful for FF.
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