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  • #261
  • Nov 16, 2023 6:57am Nov 16, 2023 6:57am
Quoting Trader191
{quote} ok, this make me question some parts: how many 100k or millions did you put in? or was i right that you do it with low Money? so you earn 100% each year and did this how may years now and did how many times multiply your account? or did you not because i was right and it dont work like this because you need hold extra money and all calculated on all is much less? did maybe the marketmaker with wrong priced swap won on your trade because you lost on this broker and thatswhy did work. but then you would have earned more in trading directly...
Yes I made about 60% this year and last year about 90%. I started with an account size of 80k and now I am well above it.

You answer is clearly a proof you have no idea about this strategy. I don't sell my software and neither does this thread starter's software exist, so even if you would like to buy it, there is no offer.

I need this software as I am not all the time on my computer, so if a position gets closed, due to not enough margin, the hedged position also gets closed. Simple as that
  • #262
  • Nov 16, 2023 7:21am Nov 16, 2023 7:21am
Quoting GodFire
{quote} Yes I made about 60% this year and last year about 90%. I started with an account size of 80k and now I am well above it. You answer is clearly a proof you have no idea about this strategy. I don't sell my software and neither does this thread starter's software exist, so even if you would like to buy it, there is no offer. I need this software as I am not all the time on my computer, so if a position gets closed, due to not enough margin, the hedged position also gets closed. Simple as that
this thread starter cheated a lot of people with his software.
many did scammed by brokers. when you come out of your small money accounts you will see.
but some need really to learn hard way that a scam company with wrong priced swap is only not care about swap because can take money different way when you win big there. you total dont understand your own method why you win , thats a shame. good luck with it.

and what bullshit did you tell about that there is no offer to buy it?
there exist many other scam companies who do this scam trick in internet and sell this useless software. you really dont know basics about your own system.


at the moment you sound like a scammer or someone who dont know why he wins and dont educate about his own method.

i remember you your own sentence you should really think about for yourself: "I guess you don't understand how this system works ". find out more about why you win when you are no scammer ,find out that a lot of this software scams exist in internet already and you can buy this software (they go away after some time always because of many got scamed and come back with different names or different person do the scam), find out how broker works .... so much to do for you.
  • #263
  • Nov 16, 2023 8:08am Nov 16, 2023 8:08am
Quoting Trader191
{quote} this thread starter cheated a lot of people with his software. many did scammed by brokers. when you come out of your small money accounts you will see. but some need really to learn hard way that a scam company with wrong priced swap is only not care about swap because can take money different way when you win big there. you total dont understand your own method why you win , thats a shame. good luck with it. and what bullshit did you tell about that there is no offer to buy it? there exist many other scam companies who do this scam trick...
How am I scamming people? I just write about my experience with this strategy, which you clearly don't understand.
  • #264
  • Nov 16, 2023 8:15am Nov 16, 2023 8:15am
Quoting GodFire
{quote} How am I scamming people? I just write about my experience with this strategy, which you clearly don't understand.
i wrote "when you are a scammer". you are uneducated about your own method or you are a scammer, so both is possible (thats what i wrote).

you wrote many wrong facts , thats for sure ( i did mention a lot you need to educate to use your method, because at the moment you sound like you dont know what you do and why you won- if this is true, i dont believe so fast because a lot of people lie in forums). so i dont say you are a scammer, but many kind of such software is sold and still they do, thats why i mentioned it.

and dont undertand me wrong, even uneducated you can make profits sometimes. but its risky not knowing where profits coming from (why something can work or cant work) - this will on end bring simple loss or useless trading.
  • #265
  • Nov 16, 2023 8:55am Nov 16, 2023 8:55am
Quoting Trader191
{quote} i wrote "when you are a scammer". you are uneducated about your own method or you are a scammer, so both is possible (thats what i wrote). you wrote many wrong facts , thats for sure ( i did mention a lot you need to educate to use your method, because at the moment you sound like you dont know what you do and why you won- if this is true, i dont believe so fast because a lot of people lie in forums). so i dont say you are a scammer, but many kind of such software is sold and still they do, thats why i mentioned it. and dont undertand me...
What wrong facts did I wrote? Additionally as you are a pro, have you been using this strategy?
  • #266
  • Nov 16, 2023 9:10am Nov 16, 2023 9:10am
Quoting GodFire
{quote} What wrong facts did I wrote? Additionally as you are a pro, have you been using this strategy?
thats this software is not for offer any more. you can buy in different places!
that broker will pay out bigger amounts. you still do in smaller Accounts, because you dont invest all money in one account, you split over many so you are not experienced what happens with bigger accounts.

no i dont trade it. risk not get payed out is very high and for small values is no value at all for me because i trade already over 20 years and so quite bigger account sizes.

if you are a pro, you cant try cheating with fishy marketmaker brokers. that will not work any more.
  • #267
  • Nov 16, 2023 9:40am Nov 16, 2023 9:40am
Quoting Trader191
{quote} thats this software is not for offer any more. you can buy in different places! that broker will pay out bigger amounts. you still do in smaller Accounts, because you dont invest all money in one account, you split over many so you are not experienced what happens with bigger accounts. no i dont trade it. risk not get payed out is very high and for small values is no value at all for me because i trade already over 20 years and so quite bigger account sizes. if you are a pro, you cant try cheating with fishy marketmaker brokers. that will...
You are aware we are hedging over two brokers, one long position and one short and just collect the swaps? That is the strategy
  • #268
  • Edited 11:33am Nov 16, 2023 10:02am | Edited 11:33am
Quoting GodFire
{quote} You are aware we are hedging over two brokers, one long position and one short and just collect the swaps? That is the strategy
yes, you have to take one bad broker for this, no good broker will pay off priced swap rates!!!!!!!
you look not aware of your own strategy, do you? or you dont understand what you exactly win with , or?

so describe your stragies please like it really is:
you simple win by a broker who dont care for wrong priced swap rates (to far away from real interest rates) because they can take money from client different ways or change conditions back when necessary (like make trading conditions less good, what is not so important for you, because you dont trade at all; dont pay out any wins because of miss prices like wrong swap prices ; dont give back any money at all....). so the broker will lose from you until this trade will make minus... broker will take this loss when you dont do it with big money or they dont take it, depends on how market maker team reacts. you are small money still because you have to split money over accounts, maybe noone care about you... then sometimes this build a casino inside a casino can work.... but for sure you did not understand the reality until now from what you really win, thats what will make problem's for long term sucess.
  • #269
  • Dec 5, 2023 8:27am Dec 5, 2023 8:27am
Quoting GodFire
{quote} I guess you don't understand how this system works as you never tried it out. Your opinion is clearly wrong. I have used exactly this software. After they disappeared I coded my own and made easy 5-10% a month with exactly this system. Only one broker closed my account, due to lots of deposits and withdrawls. Otherwise no problem at all and my account has grown to a very nice number
Hi,

I am coding a program for this aswell. I was wondering if there are any caviats with brokers. For example Fusion markets is paying a lot on EURTRY, but could this be some sort of a value trap where they know you are swaptrading? I was thinking to use a negatively correlated pair, so for EURTRY that would be EURCHF, this pair makes a bit of money and hedges the loses a bit. Would that trick the brokers a bit?

Are you open do discuss some specific things this system encounters when trading it live? I am programming the EA slave in Metatrader and handling the backbone in c#.

I hope to hear from you.
  • #270
  • Last Post: Dec 31, 2024 8:41am Dec 31, 2024 8:41am
Does anyone know a good counter brokerage for EUR/PLN?
Seems to be +31$ per Lot short while beeing a pair with lower volatility. I will test it on demo today and see if its actually 31$ per lot.

I dont mind swap free brokerages, does anyone know a swap free brokerage that allows clients with EU residence? Would appreciate any help.
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