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  • #21
  • May 20, 2023 4:07pm May 20, 2023 4:07pm
Quoting BlackNapkins
{quote} Try this... https://www.youtube.com/@imantradinglive he trades 20 sec charts live ...
hi mate , i now only do scalping no longer term trades unless i get caught but if longer time frames says it will go i keep them , a trading plan can be built around scalping kindest regards
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  • #22
  • Oct 11, 2023 2:00pm Oct 11, 2023 2:00pm
Quoting Aussi
{quote} hi mate , i now only do scalping no longer term trades unless i get caught but if longer time frames says it will go i keep them , a trading plan can be built around scalping kindest regards
what do U trade & what time frame
  • #23
  • Oct 11, 2023 4:04pm Oct 11, 2023 4:04pm
Quoting yab
{quote} what do U trade & what time frame
i see you been around since 2006
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  • #24
  • Oct 11, 2023 9:26pm Oct 11, 2023 9:26pm
Quoting kingfisher
I use Oanda and they have a 5 second, 10 second and 30 second charts apart from other charts. What is the use of 5 S, 10 S, 30 S charts? Is it possible to make money using these above time frame charts?
These charts will help you in scalping especially when the market is highly volatile. Other than that they have no significant importance.
  • #25
  • Oct 14, 2023 10:25pm Oct 14, 2023 10:25pm
it's hard for you to to trade so short time period manually, because the spead exist. the 5 sec, 10 sec, 30 sec's chart moving is fast , market moving in such short time is totally unpredictable . We should find the best chance to trade, don't trade Forex too offen bro.
  • #26
  • Oct 23, 2023 2:25pm Oct 23, 2023 2:25pm
Quoting Aussi
{quote} i see you been around since 2006
Right
in the first week a made 90% gain & on the next week lost all
are U scalping ? what timeframe
  • #27
  • Oct 23, 2023 2:34pm Oct 23, 2023 2:34pm
Quoting RickM
{quote} LOL Since it was posted 14 years ago, doubt you will get a reply. But I’m not laughing as I have made the same mistake before. I trade S & P Futures market on a 3 second chart for a wage, whilst I can’t answer for institutional traders I can offer a likely answer. Talking about the S & P Future’s market, it has a rotation period of around 4 ticks to 12 ticks meaning it swings on these values. This is the viewpoint of watching the orderflow occurring where I can see Bids and Asks actually being executed. There is no advantage watching a one...
Wow, Rick, that is awesome. I had never seen a way of using these tfs so implicit.
  • #28
  • Oct 23, 2023 2:38pm Oct 23, 2023 2:38pm
My experience:

I normally use 1-min to refine my entries that can last up to 2-3 hours. It means my sl levels are of the size of one one-minute candle or tighter but I aim to more or less 1/2 of the daily ATR. I could use the 15-30 seconds chart but I have enough with what I get from the 1min refinement.

No matter the style you are using, the patterns repeat fractally in similar ways, so you can get a convergence that includes all the different frequencies. It is up to you.

I sincerely, that trade market sessions, do not feel I need to refine under 1min. I could go also with m5, but I am already used to 1min.
  • #29
  • Nov 23, 2023 12:07am Nov 23, 2023 12:07am
These smalll timeframes never work for me there is too much up and down its too distracting. Dont you get alot of slippage trading on those charts?
  • #30
  • Jul 14, 2024 3:48pm Jul 14, 2024 3:48pm
Quoting yab
{quote} Hi Rick I'm trying to understand what you mean I have atteaced a SS of 3 sec chart , can U mark me what U would do on this? thanks {image}
how to show time frames 3s on MT4 bro ?
  • #31
  • Jul 14, 2024 9:18pm Jul 14, 2024 9:18pm
I have never used a timeframe under M1, because I still use MT4 FXOpen with the lowest timeframe M1, I think using a timeframe of 5 seconds or 10 seconds might bias the analysis a lot, even though it might be used to find detailed entries. Maybe depending on our convenience, it can be used for scalping purposes.
I trade at FXOpen
  • #32
  • Jul 18, 2024 11:51pm Jul 18, 2024 11:51pm
Quoting Gold88
{quote} how to show time frames 3s on MT4 bro ?
Don't think it's possible in MT4 (maybe it could be with some kind of indicator or addon of some sort?).
NinjaTrader/cTrader Coder, @backtested on telegram
  • #33
  • Jul 19, 2024 2:33pm Jul 19, 2024 2:33pm
Quoting Gold88
{quote} how to show time frames 3s on MT4 bro ?
I’ve seen add ons for mt5 to get second time frames.
  • #34
  • May 10, 2025 4:03pm May 10, 2025 4:03pm
Quoting RickM
{quote} Hi papadas Couple of my two weapons. Top histograms is the balance of pulling or stacking the order books. Bottom histogram is the Depth of Market imbalance. As an example, looking at my chart - there were some large orders at the bottom of that price move, the top histogram showed they were pulling Asks and adding Bids which pushes the price up. So Blue in top Histogram is manipulation to the up side. The bottom histogram shows the imbalance on the order book. Notice in my chart as Bids are added (Buyers in Blue), price turns bearish. when...
Sick Orderflow setup you use there. Never seen those histograms before. Assume they are available on Jigsaw?
  • #35
  • May 10, 2025 11:19pm May 10, 2025 11:19pm
Quoting blacksun1
{quote} sort of like a tick chart. its good for scalping and stuff. i like to trade off a tick chart for fun sometimes, but some guys do it for real money, and are good at it too. its just a little more structured than a tick chart
how they execute it? what is spread?
it is impossible to trade manually those time frames. trading view has 1 second charts as well...
  • #36
  • May 11, 2025 12:33am May 11, 2025 12:33am
how do u deal with spreads and commissions trading on a 5 second - 30 second chart?
  • #37
  • May 12, 2025 9:15am May 12, 2025 9:15am
Quoting kingfisher
What is the use of 5 S, 10 S, 30 S charts?
Quoting kingfisher
Is it possible to make money using these above time frame charts?

I think it’s a marketing thing, where some brokers want to provide it because others do, there are a few customers who like it and it costs nothing to provide anyway.
Retail CFD brokers must also do very well from it, because almost none of their customer counterparties will really be able to benefit from it?

Its main purpose is surely to enable retail CFD traders to imagine that they’re “scalping” or “doing something the big boys do” (i.e. not quite understanding what “scalping” is, or that those “big boys” aren’t trading CFDs or paying spreads, and that the ones using equivalents to charts that fast are all actually trading from volume charts or range bars or tick charts, not timed charts. That‘s certainly what they say, if you ask them, anyway).
  • #38
  • May 17, 2025 3:51am May 17, 2025 3:51am
Quoting Higher.High
{quote} {quote} I think it’s a marketing thing, where some brokers want to provide it because others do, there are a few customers who like it and it costs nothing to provide anyway. Retail CFD brokers must also do very well from it, because almost none of their customer counterparties will really be able to benefit from it? Its main purpose is surely to enable retail CFD traders to imagine that they’re “scalping” or “doing something the big boys do” (i.e. not quite understanding what “scalping” is, or that those “big boys” aren’t trading CFDs or...
Some actionable insights could only be discovered on charts on specific timeframes like 2M, 3M, I didn't believe but it works
  • #39
  • May 17, 2025 10:08am May 17, 2025 10:08am
Quoting RickM
{quote} Hi yab I trade Futures on a 3 Second chart so I can see the orders in real time and see within a markets rotation. This would be a nice long signal. This is live 5 minutes back. Cheers {image}
RickM. Curious why do you not trade tick charts? Just not available?
There ain't no use in cryin' It doesn't change anything." QOTSA
  • #40
  • Last Post: May 17, 2025 5:28pm May 17, 2025 5:28pm
Quoting EgoNoBueno
{quote} RickM. Curious why do you not trade tick charts? Just not available?
Hi EgoNoBueno

I have traded both tick charts and time based charts for years but just find time based setups work better. For example on the close of every 4 and 1 hour candle, there is always tradeable action Tick traders are not prepared for,
Back in 2016 I worked with a British trader to attempt to understand if emotional belief's could be transferred to find tradable directional bias's on a chart. We found that the human mind tends to consider switching their bias every 58 seconds. The question we then asked is how could we profit from out findings?.
The first answer is always to focus on time based charts because humans think in time cycles.
The second answer is big players manipulate price by stacking or pulling orders on a DOM (If Stocks or Futures but also effectively Forex markets as well because they are correlated to Futures anyway) and this activity is price based around important levels. These important levels favour Time Charts over tick charts for candlestick traders therefore we should always trade TIME.

The two approaches I used both rely on trading off a DOM where I use candle stick charts to just identify important levels. I have used a 3 second chart often to trade however the disadvantage is I become Chart obsessed instead of DOM obsessed.
The real money is made for me when I focus more on the DOM than the price chart, the chart is just used to send me alerts that price is near an important level. I favour the 2 Minute chart mostly these days (Proves or disprove emotional cycles) mostly to stop me candlestick watching which disturbs my thought process while I should be watching a DOM.

Cheers
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