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  • #1,141
  • Edited 4:54am May 25, 2007 2:53am | Edited 4:54am
Quoting nondisclosure00

Here's the 'pseduo' code:
If Stoch(20,10,20) > Stoch(50,10,20) and
Stoch(20,10,20) > It's signal line; and
Stoch(50,10,20) > It's signal line; and
NonLagMA trend is going up; and
Stoch(5,3,3) > It's signal line; then
BUY!

If Stoch(20,10,20) < Stoch(50,10,20) and
Stoch(20,10,20) < It's signal line; and
Stoch(50,10,20) < It's signal line; and
NonLagMA trend is going down; and
Stoch(5,3,3) < It's signal line; then
SELL!
If think the way it is handle is not good.

The stoch 5,3,3 have to be handle by a cross and not by a direction.

you have to stay with
If Stoch(20,10,20) > Stoch(50,10,20) and
Stoch(20,10,20) > It's signal line; and
Stoch(50,10,20) > It's signal line and
stoch 20,10,20 is going up
stoch 50,10,20 is going up
Stoch 5,3,3 has cross below a certain level (that you can define with a extern int ) with the stoch 5,3,3 going up and the stoch 5,3,3 still going up
the nonlagma is going up after a maximum of a certain numbre of bar (that you can define as well but i have seen up to 4 bar for a good setup)

But you need to make sure that if the stoch 5,3,3 cross to the downward, a code would say to stop considering the nonlagma.

I believe it would be something like
if stoch 5,3,3 cross upward then X=1
if stoch 5,3,3 cross downard then X=2

Quoting gklp
perfect trade has been perfoming in 4h in gbpusd- 50 and 20 are going upwards nicely and 5 stoch crossed .
You are right, need to wait one more hour for the setup to be confimed (on my plateform it's gmt+2)

Edit : the latest indicator seems definitely better than the previous previous , i definitely like the "you miss the buy signal" , it's very good

Edit2 : after small testing i see that it misses a lot of signal (maybe it's the nonlagma settings i dont know but those settings should be in a extern int so you can change them - it will be better for optimisation any way later on ) and according to the following chart, you can see that there is much more seel signal than buy signal despite the uptrend and several signal that you can visually see. Also the level 20/80 does not seems to be working at all (changing them to 80/20 does not change the signal at all )
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  • #1,142
  • May 25, 2007 10:49am May 25, 2007 10:49am
Quoting melpheos
If think the way it is handle is not good.

The stoch 5,3,3 have to be handle by a cross and not by a direction.

you have to stay with
If Stoch(20,10,20) > Stoch(50,10,20) and
Stoch(20,10,20) > It's signal line; and
Stoch(50,10,20) > It's signal line and
stoch 20,10,20 is going up
stoch 50,10,20 is going up
Stoch 5,3,3 has cross below a certain level (that you can define with a extern int ) with the stoch 5,3,3 going up and the stoch 5,3,3 still going up
the nonlagma is going up after a maximum of a certain numbre of bar (that you can define as well but i have seen up to 4 bar for a good setup)

But you need to make sure that if the stoch 5,3,3 cross to the downward, a code would say to stop considering the nonlagma.

I believe it would be something like
if stoch 5,3,3 cross upward then X=1
if stoch 5,3,3 cross downard then X=2


You are right, need to wait one more hour for the setup to be confimed (on my plateform it's gmt+2)

Edit : the latest indicator seems definitely better than the previous previous , i definitely like the "you miss the buy signal" , it's very good

Edit2 : after small testing i see that it misses a lot of signal (maybe it's the nonlagma settings i dont know but those settings should be in a extern int so you can change them - it will be better for optimisation any way later on ) and according to the following chart, you can see that there is much more seel signal than buy signal despite the uptrend and several signal that you can visually see. Also the level 20/80 does not seems to be working at all (changing them to 80/20 does not change the signal at all )

Hello Melphoes,
There are soo many same indicators have been posted here and its getting difficult to follow which ones are working correctly and which ones to ignore.
Can you please help me?
Thanks for all your wonderfull support and your information and same to boxinglife.
  • #1,143
  • May 25, 2007 11:35am May 25, 2007 11:35am
Quoting swizzguy
Hello Melphoes,
There are soo many same indicators have been posted here and its getting difficult to follow which ones are working correctly and which ones to ignore.
Can you please help me?
Thanks for all your wonderfull support and your information and same to boxinglife.
Spoon feeding is bad for your health... There is a guide and the topic, take the time to read it
  • #1,144
  • May 25, 2007 12:32pm May 25, 2007 12:32pm
Quoting melpheos
Spoon feeding is bad for your health... There is a guide and the topic, take the time to read it
lol....Actualy i am reading your guide which is fantastic and able to set all the indicators execpt for the settings in MA crossover. After I added those 5 and 8 MA lines where do I apply these parameters 1-5-0-8 ?
I was under the impression that these indicators will have those MA lines
  • #1,145
  • May 25, 2007 1:04pm May 25, 2007 1:04pm
Quoting melpheos
Spoon feeding is bad for your health... There is a guide and the topic, take the time to read it
Okay finally I found the MA Crossover indicator. I had to dig hard
  • #1,146
  • May 25, 2007 1:17pm May 25, 2007 1:17pm
Quoting swizzguy
Okay finally I found the MA Crossover indicator. I had to dig hard
i dont understand why you had to dig hard ? All necessary indicator are in my signature ...
  • #1,147
  • Edited 3:42pm May 25, 2007 1:28pm | Edited 3:42pm
i don't think you need more indicators.
in fact, you may need less...
take a look at the BLine system at:

http://dacharts.org/archives/2Xbline/

Moderator Note:
At the request of the author of the thread. Please take note that this method is not the same as the author's. The author's method is inspired from this one. but the settings are unique and there are other changes.
  • #1,148
  • May 25, 2007 1:34pm May 25, 2007 1:34pm
Quoting roter
i don't think you need more indicators.
in fact, you may need less...
take a look at the BLine system at:

http://dacharts.org/archives/2Xbline/
Boxingislife said i think in it's first post that his system was inspired by the slingshot system but i'm very glad you brought that link here. Thanks
  • #1,149
  • May 25, 2007 1:44pm May 25, 2007 1:44pm
Quoting melpheos
with the stoch 5,3,3 going up and the stoch 5,3,3 still going up
I'm not quite sure I get this. Could you expand on this?

Quoting melpheos
the nonlagma is going up after a maximum of a certain numbre of bar (that you can define as well but i have seen up to 4 bar for a good setup)
. I don't like this too much as it could get you into a trend too late. I could put in the 'angle' of a nonlagma swing (i think, i'm still working on this).

Quoting melpheos
But you need to make sure that if the stoch 5,3,3 cross to the downward, a code would say to stop considering the nonlagma.

I believe it would be something like
if stoch 5,3,3 cross upward then X=1
if stoch 5,3,3 cross downard then X=2
when you say 'cross' you mean 'chang direction', not 'cross w/ it's signal line.

Quoting melpheos
Edit : the latest indicator seems definitely better than the previous previous , i definitely like the "you miss the buy signal" , it's very good
the last indicator i'll write for release will allow a user to set his own text, color, etc.

Quoting melpheos
Edit2 : after small testing i see that it misses a lot of signal (maybe it's the nonlagma settings i dont know but those settings should be in a extern int so you can change them - it will be better for optimisation any way later on ) and according to the following chart, you can see that there is much more seel signal than buy signal despite the uptrend and several signal that you can visually see. Also the level 20/80 does not seems to be working at all (changing them to 80/20 does not change the signal at all )
I say it's the 50 and 20 lines that are making me miss the marks.

et al (everyone), post some pics of your charts where you have entered in a good solid trade. show where the setup for this entry happened w/ a red vertical line, like in the chart I have attached. the more I have, the more i can help determine a good entry.

thanks.

melpheos, i'll work on the rules some more soon. I just go laid off today from my job, i need some down time. i'll be back in a day or so. thx.
  • #1,150
  • May 25, 2007 1:45pm May 25, 2007 1:45pm
Quoting melpheos
i dont understand why you had to dig hard ? All necessary indicator are in my signature ...
Sorry man. I feel so dumb..Didnt pay attention to your signatures.
  • #1,151
  • Edited May 26, 2007 10:23am May 25, 2007 2:59pm | Edited May 26, 2007 10:23am
Quoting nondisclosure00
I'm not quite sure I get this. Could you expand on this?

. I don't like this too much as it could get you into a trend too late. I could put in the 'angle' of a nonlagma swing (i think, i'm still working on this).
i can garantee you that it's the only way to get it right or in this case forget totally about the nonlagma as it will then serve no purpose. Dont worry too much about this, but thinking about implementing this before making the EA is definitely a plus


Quoting nondisclosure00
when you say 'cross' you mean 'chang direction', not 'cross w/ it's signal line.
I am changing my settings right now, give me some time on this

Quoting nondisclosure00
I just go laid off today from my job, i need some down time. i'll be back in a day or so. thx.
Gee that sux, i've never been sacked but i'm pretty sure that's not cool. Hope you will find a new job pretty soon

I'm simplifying my chart lately (well tonight)

This is how it looks now. Why having indicator that your not using. They just cluster your view.

But in the meantime I am testing this indicator, it might do good
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  • #1,152
  • May 26, 2007 5:26pm May 26, 2007 5:26pm
Quoting melpheos
i can garantee you that it's the only way to get it right or in this case forget totally about the nonlagma as it will then serve no purpose. Dont worry too much about this, but thinking about implementing this before making the EA is definitely a plus




I am changing my settings right now, give me some time on this



Gee that sux, i've never been sacked but i'm pretty sure that's not cool. Hope you will find a new job pretty soon

I'm simplifying my chart lately (well tonight)

This is how it looks now. Why having indicator that your not using. They just cluster your view.

But in the meantime I am testing this indicator, it might do good
I see you removed the signal lines for the Stoch. does that affect the signals your looking for? and if so, how?

What NonLAgMA indicator are you using now? I see you've got one for mostly flat and angled lines.

Let me know how the new indicator works.
  • #1,153
  • Edited 5:42am May 27, 2007 3:50am | Edited 5:42am
Quoting nondisclosure00
I see you removed the signal lines for the Stoch. does that affect the signals your looking for? and if so, how?

What NonLAgMA indicator are you using now? I see you've got one for mostly flat and angled lines.

Let me know how the new indicator works.
I have studies the different good signal i have and i have discovered that all the time, when the signal is good you just have 20/50 up (for buy i mean) and 5 just making a pull back and changing direction. So in fact, looking only for the direction should be enough on the 20/50 and waiting for a V shape of the 5 is OK.

I have to do some visual backtest today.

After some backtest it seems ok... But it's starting to develop in a different direction than Boxingislife yet it is based on it...

As for the nonlagma i'm still using the nonlagmaV5 with the settings in my pdf
  • #1,154
  • May 27, 2007 11:16am May 27, 2007 11:16am
sorry to hear about u being laid off nondisclosure
hopefully ull find a job soon
  • #1,155
  • Edited May 28, 2007 11:30am May 27, 2007 4:21pm | Edited May 28, 2007 11:30am
I think i have found the rule to describe precisely the strategy and they are pretty complex.

I'll keep in touch with you tomorrow. I think i'll have time at work (we have a stupid law in France saying that tomorrow we have to work for free :-/ but not all company apply this so we have nothing to do this day usually)

Edit : here is my new bundle with tpl and indicators

Edit2 : no trade today and no activity
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  • #1,156
  • May 28, 2007 1:09pm May 28, 2007 1:09pm
Thanks for the interesting and very busy looking indicator bundle Melpheos. Looking forward to hearing how you are using them together.

Cheers,
Matt
  • #1,157
  • May 28, 2007 1:18pm May 28, 2007 1:18pm
Quoting boxingislife
sorry to hear about u being laid off nondisclosure
hopefully ull find a job soon
Thanks dude. I'm hoping to land real soon. But I've got a good severence out of it and since I haven't taken any time off in the past 3 years, I'm going to take a vacation.

I am going to take my laptop w/ me on vacation so I can still work on this though.
  • #1,158
  • May 28, 2007 1:21pm May 28, 2007 1:21pm
Quoting melpheos
I think i have found the rule to describe precisely the strategy and they are pretty complex.

I'll keep in touch with you tomorrow. I think i'll have time at work (we have a stupid law in France saying that tomorrow we have to work for free :-/ but not all company apply this so we have nothing to do this day usually)

Edit : here is my new bundle with tpl and indicators

Edit2 : no trade today and no activity
work for free? I'd rather be laid off.:

I'm going to take a look at the bundle.
  • #1,159
  • Edited 2:33pm May 28, 2007 1:22pm | Edited 2:33pm
Quoting melpheos
I have studies the different good signal i have and i have discovered that all the time, when the signal is good you just have 20/50 up (for buy i mean) and 5 just making a pull back and changing direction. So in fact, looking only for the direction should be enough on the 20/50 and waiting for a V shape of the 5 is OK.

I have to do some visual backtest today.

After some backtest it seems ok... But it's starting to develop in a different direction than Boxingislife yet it is based on it...

As for the nonlagma i'm still using the nonlagmaV5 with the settings in my pdf
melpheos, I think I see what your saying. I have to look at the bundle first. if you get a chance, post a chart pic w/ what your talking about. If I get what your saying, it'll take, maybe, 5 minutes to code.

Edit: Looked at the bundle. Waiting for your analysis.
  • #1,160
  • May 28, 2007 2:13pm May 28, 2007 2:13pm
I have shifted some of the indicators around on the chart so that they aren't on top of each other. Still looks very crowded, but at least it is a bit better.
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