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  • #17,421
  • Jul 4, 2023 11:41am Jul 4, 2023 11:41am
Quoting Capablanca
Not sure if this was already published here {image}
Can you send me a link so i can dig deeper into the hidden rules?

NVM i spoke to them on chat and despite all their media saying it will be on 3rd july, they asked me to wait till friday. Took them 5 hours to reply to my support message on chat. Literally went to swim and came back and message is there.
  • #17,422
  • Jul 4, 2023 12:08pm Jul 4, 2023 12:08pm
Quoting Takisd
{quote} Can you send me a link so i can dig deeper into the hidden rules? NVM i spoke to them on chat and despite all their media saying it will be on 3rd july, they asked me to wait till friday. Took them 5 hours to reply to my support message on chat. Literally went to swim and came back and message is there.
This was from Angelo in a telegram group.

The kind of question you asked was embarrassing to them ? Makes no sense to ban someone just for asking anything.
  • #17,423
  • Jul 4, 2023 12:38pm Jul 4, 2023 12:38pm
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} This was from Angelo in a telegram group. The kind of question you asked was embarrassing to them ? Makes no sense to ban someone just for asking anything.
I am not sure, maybe they have a bot that doesnt like certain words.

FWIW i said their customer support is worse than their slippage
  • #17,424
  • Jul 4, 2023 12:49pm Jul 4, 2023 12:49pm
Quoting Takisd
FWIW i said their customer support is worse than their slippage
-Nice.
  • #17,425
  • Jul 4, 2023 4:31pm Jul 4, 2023 4:31pm
Quoting Capablanca
Not sure if this was already published here {image}
Does someone know the price of the add-on ? (10% DD ---> 12%)
  • #17,426
  • Jul 4, 2023 4:37pm Jul 4, 2023 4:37pm
Quoting Nehemah
{quote} Does someone know the price of the add-on ? (10% DD ---> 12%)
Its a hefty price of no support.
  • #17,427
  • Jul 4, 2023 4:49pm Jul 4, 2023 4:49pm
Was doing the 5ers bootcamp. Had some other things going on so did not trade for a couple of weeks. Inactivity for 21 days was supposed to be the expiration. They just sent an expiration notice after 14 days. My reply was not nice.
Mark ... Everything you have been told is a LIE
  • #17,428
  • Jul 4, 2023 5:08pm Jul 4, 2023 5:08pm
Cryptofundtrade's terms are much better than MFFX.
Is there any reason not to choose Cryptofundtrade among the two?
  • #17,429
  • Jul 4, 2023 5:22pm Jul 4, 2023 5:22pm
Quoting wmwmw
Cryptofundtrade's terms are much better than MFFX. Is there any reason not to choose Cryptofundtrade among the two?

30 SECONDS RULE
Trades with a duration of less than 30 seconds cannot exceed 5% of the total trades in the account, this is a margin of error for possible accidents such as misclick. Profits obtained in less than this duration will be subtracted. This percentage can be fixed before completing the phase, microlots are not included.
Micro-lots: TOTAL VOLUME/TOTAL TRADES x 0.1
Trades with a volume less than the result of this formula will not count towards the 30-second rule.
Stop loss hits of less than 30 seconds also count.
GAMBLING/ALL MONEY IN ONE TRADE RULE
The daily and/or per trade profit limit is $10,000.

Any profit with an amount greater than $10,000 per trade and/or per day will be subtracted.

Calculated at 00:10 UTC


TBH these are pretty shitty rules.
  • #17,430
  • Jul 4, 2023 6:03pm Jul 4, 2023 6:03pm
Quoting spzd
Was doing the 5ers bootcamp. Had some other things going on so did not trade for a couple of weeks. Inactivity for 21 days was supposed to be the expiration. They just sent an expiration notice after 14 days. My reply was not nice.
Just a not nice reply is all you can do?
I mean you exposed them here for others to know but your deposit is gone?
  • #17,431
  • Jul 4, 2023 6:10pm Jul 4, 2023 6:10pm
Quoting OutThere
{quote} Just a not nice reply is all you can do? I mean you exposed them here for others to know but your deposit is gone?
Other than that all I can do is report it to some government agency. They are out of Israel with an office in the UK, but me in the US, I have little recourse. $95 down the tubes.
Mark ... Everything you have been told is a LIE
  • #17,432
  • Jul 4, 2023 6:12pm Jul 4, 2023 6:12pm
Quoting spzd
{quote} Other than that all I can do is report it to some government agency. They are out of Israel with an office in the UK, but me in the US, I have little recourse. $95 down the tubes.
The FCA would love to hear from you. They hate gamification of financial markets.
  • #17,433
  • Jul 4, 2023 6:59pm Jul 4, 2023 6:59pm
Quoting spzd
Was doing the 5ers bootcamp. Had some other things going on so did not trade for a couple of weeks. Inactivity for 21 days was supposed to be the expiration. They just sent an expiration notice after 14 days. My reply was not nice.
The5ers used to have a really great reputation, but in the last year or so they've been changing their programs and rules almost every month it seems. Every time I look at their website or recommend it to someone it's changed again. Currently, all of their programs (Bootcamp, Hyper Growth, and High Stakes) ALL say 14 days and not 21 anymore, and on at least one it says the counter starts from registration day, not the first trade, so if you don't get the account details in less than 24hrs then you lose a day. The Terms & Conditions page has not been updated yet and still says 21 days. I think it's important to capture screenshots of all rules at the time of signup with any of these prop firms now, but if they change the rules mid-challenge, then they change the rules, and there's nothing you can do about it. There's no signed contract usually until after passing a challenge. And even then I'm sure lawyers have made enough loopholes for them to change a contract without notice too. At least every cell phone or internet or cable plan has always found a way to do it, LOL!
  • #17,434
  • Jul 4, 2023 7:05pm Jul 4, 2023 7:05pm
Quoting AaronPriest
but if they change the rules mid-challenge, then they change the rules, and there's nothing you can do about it.
-If they refuse to honor the original terms that you agreed to upon purchase/signup, then issue a charge-back and report them here and in other groups (blacklist them).

Any prop that deliberately chooses to hurt its traders does not deserve our business. Without us, they have no business.
  • #17,435
  • Jul 4, 2023 8:22pm Jul 4, 2023 8:22pm
Quoting beastwork
{quote} Don't be lazy. Do what I did and reach out to their customer service directly. They don't care if you trade the news, but they don't want to see you take on abnormally high volume during the news in comparison to your other trading. I think if you're a sensible trader with the prop firms they won't go out of their way to get rid of you. People get greedy, force the prop firm to take on too much risk, and leave them no choice but to fire you. They are not going to let you abuse the platform
I don't mind to avoid news, but at least they provide official information which news event to avoid - everyday, or to which website should we refer to
  • #17,436
  • Jul 4, 2023 8:40pm Jul 4, 2023 8:40pm
That's my boy Matty

I'm going to ask him if I can be the first over 50 prop firm influencer. I'll even take my shirt off and flex my muscles.

Sexy Expo pimpin' Seacrest.
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Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #17,437
  • Jul 4, 2023 9:20pm Jul 4, 2023 9:20pm
Quoting Expo33
That's my boy Matty I'm going to ask him if I can be the first over 50 prop firm influencer. I'll even take my shirt off and flex my muscles. Sexy Expo pimpin' Seacrest. {image}
Loll.
I think he means well. No? How come?
  • #17,438
  • Jul 4, 2023 9:31pm Jul 4, 2023 9:31pm
Quoting Jay3ast
{quote} I don't mind to avoid news, but at least they provide official information which news event to avoid - everyday, or to which website should we refer to
https://the5ers.com/economic-forex-calendar/

The news events with 3 bulls are the ones that they monitor. The gist of the message they gave me was if you trade like a reckless moron they will fire you, news or not (as they should). Trade like a sensible professional and you have nothing to worry about. We should view these funded situations as partnerships. They goal should not be to abuse the opportunity
  • #17,439
  • Jul 4, 2023 9:34pm Jul 4, 2023 9:34pm
Quoting AaronPriest
{quote} The5ers used to have a really great reputation, but in the last year or so they've been changing their programs and rules almost every month it seems. Every time I look at their website or recommend it to someone it's changed again. Currently, all of their programs (Bootcamp, Hyper Growth, and High Stakes) ALL say 14 days and not 21 anymore, and on at least one it says the counter starts from registration day, not the first trade, so if you don't get the account details in less than 24hrs then you lose a day. The Terms & Conditions page has not been updated yet and still says 21 days. I think it's important to capture screenshots of all rules at the time of signup with any of these prop firms now, but if they change the rules mid-challenge, then they change the rules, and there's nothing you can do about it. There's no signed contract usually until after passing a challenge. And even then I'm sure lawyers have made enough loopholes for them to change a contract without notice too. At least every cell phone or internet or cable plan has always found a way to do it, LOL!
It's like laying on a conveyor belt head first that is clicking it's way towards the end and at the end is a guillotine that will chop your head off. Each click is a day and you are always 14 clicks form death. Your only chance of survival is to pull a trade and then the click counter of the belt resets to zero, but again only 14 clicks from certain death.

Nice trading conditions. Would make a great special for Halloween or something like that...
  • #17,440
  • Jul 4, 2023 9:40pm Jul 4, 2023 9:40pm
Quoting OutThere
{quote} Loll. I think he means well. No? How come?
I have no problem with him. Just a young dude trying to build his brand.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
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