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  • #12,681
  • Nov 25, 2022 9:03am Nov 25, 2022 9:03am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Once again, makes sense. It seems that is exactly what is happening. Now, on TFF, I'll have freezes when I should be hitting TP. Cannot say it is intentional though, as TFF freezes randomly a couple of times per day for me with the common error message. Only like 1-2 minutes though. Fortunately, has not negatively impacted me. I also hop right on chat ( the 3 times I was actually attempting to close while frozen) as it gets copied to my email and tell them I am trying to close..... here is the time, here is the price, here is the order #......so...
TFF when I was doing, freezes.

It is same, it could be for others too.
Intraday only.
  • #12,682
  • Nov 25, 2022 9:03am Nov 25, 2022 9:03am
So what are the trader profile criterias of having a better or worse feed on prop firm like MFF for example? When do you get worse slippage? How do they discriminate ?
  • #12,683
  • Nov 25, 2022 9:05am Nov 25, 2022 9:05am
Quoting TrAndy1
Having different feeds for different traders on the same prop firm is discriminating and should not be allowed. It is like the same, oh, this trader looks to good, I will get him the worse slippage feed, or this traders is new, he gets the better feed, because the chance he might loosing is so high, so he had no chance to complain at all on the execution side. That is exactly one feature of the former Virtual Dealer Plugin, of having different feed (behavior) on different traders. 100% discrimination, so bad!!
and every broker does the same thing.....what is your solution?
  • #12,684
  • Nov 25, 2022 9:08am Nov 25, 2022 9:08am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} and every broker does the same thing.....what is your solution?
No, IC Market does not do that !!! I have it never seen, but I also can watch full market depth on any FX pair too in relation to the order ticket size. They are very fair!!!
  • #12,685
  • Nov 25, 2022 9:10am Nov 25, 2022 9:10am
Quoting TrAndy1
So what are the trader profile criterias of having a better or worse feed on prop firm like MFF for example? When do you get worse slippage? How do they discriminate ?
I highly doubt if this happens.

May be... for some who makes six figure profit regularly
Intraday only.
  • #12,686
  • Nov 25, 2022 9:12am Nov 25, 2022 9:12am
Quoting navk
{quote} I highly doubt if this happens. May be... for some who makes six figure profit regularly
So what Takisd said is nonsense? Then the conclusion is, and I only make conclusions over complaints of other traders here, that MFF has a worse feed with more slip!!!
  • #12,687
  • Nov 25, 2022 9:15am Nov 25, 2022 9:15am
So let me summarize the discussions over the last days here. Significant slippage seen on MFF over order tickets of 10 lots, with 1 pip too much than usual, like on IC Markets as comparison, then two others complaint about CONSTANT WORSE EXECUTION ON MFF too. That was on lower lot sizes. So this is only a summary of those !!!
  • #12,688
  • Nov 25, 2022 9:18am Nov 25, 2022 9:18am
Alright, time to leave the thread again, Andy is going on some weird troll session in an attempt to discredit prop firms. With all the information presented it is very easy to dismiss him but I don't have the energy to bother.

Andy, if you are so happy trading at your broker, go trade at your broker. No one, literally NO ONE uses VDP anymore but you are so sure the world is against you its a hopeless case.

Retail traders cannot handle true market conditions. You mention slippage, i am 100% certain you would refuse to trade anywhere that gave you true market conditions if you traded any size.

VDP slippage made price feeds spike out on every instance, none of these companies have spikes that indicate ANYTHING like VDP. Stop spreading false information and and stop attempting to combat people who are having an otherwise civilized discussion.
  • #12,689
  • Nov 25, 2022 9:19am Nov 25, 2022 9:19am
As I said, I do not have any opinions in the MFF slippage case. I just summarize what others are saying here and make logical conclusions. That is all, nothing more !!!
  • #12,690
  • Nov 25, 2022 9:21am Nov 25, 2022 9:21am
Quoting Takisd
Alright, time to leave the thread again, Andy is going on some weird troll session in an attempt to discredit prop firms. With all the information presented it is very easy to dismiss him but I don't have the energy to bother. Andy, if you are so happy trading at your broker, go trade at your broker. No one, literally NO ONE uses VDP anymore but you are so sure the world is against you its a hopeless case. Retail traders cannot handle true market conditions. You mention slippage, i am 100% certain you would refuse to trade anywhere that gave you...

your knowledge to most is invaluable.

This is public forum, people will have different opinions.

Sharing your knowledge is what the most in the thread are looking for.
Intraday only.
  • #12,691
  • Nov 25, 2022 9:23am Nov 25, 2022 9:23am
Quoting TrAndy1
As I said, I do not have any opinions in the MFF slippage case. I just summarize what others are saying here and make logical conclusions. That is all, nothing more !!!
You are sitting here using words like VDP and suggesting someone said I was wrong (when they didn't). Your language is inflammatory, and there is no reason for it at all.
NavK spotted a difference and we are discussing it.

I don't think any of these companies are intentionally trying to make anyone lose. Infact it appears all of them have better than market conditions (as per my icmarkets/tickmill comparison).
  • #12,692
  • Nov 25, 2022 9:25am Nov 25, 2022 9:25am
Quoting Takisd
{quote} You are sitting here using words like VDP and suggesting someone said I was wrong (when they didn't). Your language is inflammatory, and there is no reason for it at all. NavK spotted a difference and we are discussing it. I don't think any of these companies are intentionally trying to make anyone lose. Infact it appears all of them have better than market conditions (as per my icmarkets/tickmill comparison).
yes, Prop firms offers in general are superior to fx brokers live feed.
Intraday only.
  • #12,693
  • Nov 25, 2022 9:30am Nov 25, 2022 9:30am
Quoting Takisd
Alright, time to leave the thread again, Andy is going on some weird troll session in an attempt to discredit prop firms. With all the information presented it is very easy to dismiss him but I don't have the energy to bother. Andy, if you are so happy trading at your broker, go trade at your broker. No one, literally NO ONE uses VDP anymore but you are so sure the world is against you its a hopeless case. Retail traders cannot handle true market conditions. You mention slippage, i am 100% certain you would refuse to trade anywhere that gave you...
So you get angry for no reason. I was only summarizing. But you ignore that important fact. Others complaint here about slippage issues and having constant worse execution on MFF. So tell those posters they should not say anything here. I was making logical conclusions. And as I said, about VDP, I said something own programmed VDP like, not the exact VDP in all times of course. And it is in the description of VDP, if you know this, that they provide different kind of feed behavior to different type of traders. That is in the manual of VDP. So YOU SAID THAT THEY HAVE DIFFERENT TRADERS PROFILES with different feed here. And you said it is confusing. So I only summarized what you said and made the conclusion based on what is already said here too. Nothing else. But you shout here and name me a troll. You were defending MFF for no reason, because you are with them for so long. But FTMO started to makes things worse. So you need to have open eyes. But you close your eyes and are strong defender of MFF (always). Again I did not say MFF is bad. BUT THEY SHOW BAD SLIP, so that can add up over time on many trades. When you have a problem that people complaining about slippage and getting constant worse execution on MFF, then shout back to those posters and not me. You seem to have a kind of personal agenda against me. You should stop again offending me. I can remember you said I am going to commercial side soon. Never ever. But you tried again to offend me. You should be BANNED for that reason. Go to your hospital and poor country Greece and look to get healthy soon, because you need it. Just stop offending me. You have offended me several times for no reason. I was not offending you, just said the truth and nothing else by summarizing and concluding from other posts !!!!
  • #12,694
  • Nov 25, 2022 10:04am Nov 25, 2022 10:04am
Quoting TrAndy1
Having different feeds for different traders on the same prop firm is discriminating and should not be allowed. It is like the same, oh, this trader looks to good, I will get him the worse slippage feed, or this traders is new, he gets the better feed, because the chance he might loosing is so high, so he had no chance to complain at all on the execution side. That is exactly one feature of the former Virtual Dealer Plugin, of having different feed (behavior) on different traders. 100% discrimination, so bad!!
JFC, are you on the spectrum or something? It’s like listening to someone with Tourette's spouting complete random nonsense.
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  • #12,695
  • Nov 25, 2022 10:13am Nov 25, 2022 10:13am
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} JFC, are you on the spectrum or something? It’s like listening to someone with Tourette's spouting complete random nonsense.
One more offense from you!!!! You call me what spouting ???? Did you not forget how much value I brought in here with my sheet and prop firm score calculation ???? Better to leave this thread forever. I just regret that I have provided some value in the overall discussion with some math. But go ahead with your slippage discussion.
  • #12,696
  • Nov 25, 2022 10:21am Nov 25, 2022 10:21am
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} One more offense from you!!!! You call me what spouting ???? Did you not forget how much value I brought in here with my sheet and prop firm score calculation ????
And you choose to undermine those efforts by your incoherent nonsense. You’re out of your league against the decades of knowledge others have brought here.

Your inexperience and naïveté is yours to blame.
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #12,697
  • Nov 25, 2022 10:47am Nov 25, 2022 10:47am
TrAndy1 . Ive read hundreds of posts last days in this thread. But I started to read it at the last page and had no idea who started this thread at first. But I flagged you as confused from reading some replies you did lately here. Since as others said not always coherent logical thinking in replies of 50% what I've read so far from you as of late. But thanks for creating the thread tho. But something is odd about your replies and accusations without facts. You mix facts with illogical accusations which can confuse new traders like me if they don't read more into your reply patterns and notice your irregular behavior.
This is by no means to offend you. But maybe you are just in a strange mindset right now? This is just advice as others do to. Not to offend you. Since you seem to be about ego trip since you created a thread and unable to see the bigger picture how other replies. Hopefully you take this in the right way. My advice take a step back look at it unbiased without ego.
  • #12,698
  • Nov 25, 2022 10:48am Nov 25, 2022 10:48am
FTMO comes on the forum but chooses not to respond on they thread, HUGE RED FLAG.. payouts pending..
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  • #12,699
  • Nov 25, 2022 10:55am Nov 25, 2022 10:55am
Quoting Soros
FTMO comes on the forum but chooses not to respond on they thread, HUGE RED FLAG.. payouts pending.. {image}
I’ve yet to see anyone not receive payouts from FTMO. Including myself as of last week.

I also help moderate a couple large PropFirm groups on FB and have yet to see anyone complaining about not getting paid from FTMO.
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  • #12,700
  • Nov 25, 2022 11:39am Nov 25, 2022 11:39am
Quoting labu
TrAndy1 . Ive read hundreds of posts last days in this thread. But I started to read it at the last page and had no idea who started this thread at first. But I flagged you as confused from reading some replies you did lately here. Since as others said not always coherent logical thinking in replies of 50% what I've read so far from you as of late. But thanks for creating the thread tho. But something is odd about your replies and accusations without facts. You mix facts with illogical accusations which can confuse new traders like me if they don't...
He didn't create this thread, Mastermind is the creator: https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...-prop-firm-hub

He has contributed greatly with the addition of his spreadsheet, and I agree with you that his often erratic behavior undermines those efforts.
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