TPOC/VPOC System

Can you spot the setup?

Been back testing all night, really high win rate

Does it work on smaller time frames like M5 because I tried it but candles are weird and POC is not very clear? Is their any setting which should be changed ?

3m is lowest time frame I’m sorry friend. I also wished it was lower. The 5m works great though. Any time frame works great because it’s so fundamental.

What is your win rate for this strategy?

close to 90% if executed properly

Thank you Burnestgeyer for the approach,looking nice tpoc and vpoc,I found it helpful for my process as well, just started to test it a bit, white arrow trapped the time volume,one can wait for vpoc on blue arrow after the trap, what do you think about this example, would you trade asap after trap or confirmation?On mt4 I use ma 1440 on the 1min chart...Thanks

I’m going to be setting up a discord so we can go over setups together

I really like this setup because you’re using both strategies (trapped traders and vpoc moving from TPOC)

this is a perfect setup but make sure you’re looking to the left, you can see a cluster of VPOC, I would enter after the break of that, and take position in the “area to fill”

the area to fill is often the area where VPOC is ascending with no clusters


sorry on phone but this is what I mean in the pic, it’s not a large window but this is why we scalp it. That’s 99% success setup taking trade in between the two lines

really Great, thanks a lot, I think needs time for eyes to adjust for vpoc and tpoc, not to trade what is expected but rather to trade when setup is initiated...

yes exactly, just keep back testing back testing back testing, you will see the setups like the back of your hand

whenever you have down time just keep going back in time and training your eye.

even more important than the strategy setups is the clusters/

You’ll start to be able to draw perfect support and resistance lines and take profit accordingly if you can draw your zones around the clusters good enough

I’ll be posting some examples when home

Also want to mention in @charlis setup that price actually grabs the liquidity where traders were trapped so be careful because this could indicate sellers have regained control

make sure market participants are really trapped, or when price comes back they can recover

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Can you add some alerts because sometimes it gets confusing ?

whats confusing please discuss what’s confusing to you so other can learn too!

Alerts wont really work because the entries are really discretionary, and based on zones that traders make themselves.

a strict rule set will really negatively impact succces

I don't trade the way you trade but I find this amusing.

Could you elaborate more about your approach to this system?
Yes, we know from the first post about players getting trap, and how VPOC leaves behind TPOC indicates a trend initiation.
(I think this is the description mentioned on the indicator page on Tradingview)

Then your posts developed further into how you approach the market, and becoming your own unique system.

You mentioned about cluster, about setting TP and SL on TPOC/VPOC etc., but it's getting confusing for me personally.

1. What is the exact pattern (the entry trigger) are you looking for? What is NOT the pattern to enter from?
2. Which VPOC/TPOC do you consider as your SL or TP?
3. How do you usually approach your risk reward ratio? What time frame are you executing on?
4. What is your definition of a cluster and how does it have a part to add your confluence when taking a trade?
5. What is defined as an "area to fill"? I mean, in other trading concept, I know an "imbalance" or "fair value gap" concept where price might come back to before continuing its way, but I am kind of confused with yours.

At this point I look like I'm asking your whole trading plan..
But that's usually what is posted on the first post of any trading system, anyway.

Thank you. I'm happy to see you became one with the flow when trading this system.

im glad you find interest in my unique approach to trading the markets with this amazing indicator.

sorry I have not been very clear and I am more than glad to clarify and help you understand my thought process and all the criteria that comes with setting up a profitable trade. Once I am at my pc I will give you a detailed explanation to each one of your concerns.

Let's take a look at some trade setups from this Friday - Ny Open on NAS100. My favorite instrument to scalp.

 

1. What is the exact pattern (the entry trigger) are you looking for? What is NOT the pattern to enter from?
   I mentioned before that we need to be careful when using terms like "exact" as every entry is going to differ because markets are nuanced. Essentially, you're trading the breakout of the support/resistance/vpoc-cluster after traders have been trapped. However, how and when traders are trapped is another discretionary data set that changes setup to setup. Breakouts are another discretionary trading tooll that cang change from trader to trader, as well as the breakouts themselves. There's different volume, different clusters and momentum. Let's take a look at this setup..
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   What are some key things to notice? Not all trapped traders are equal. Price is on a clear downtrend in this example. Trapping sellers in a downward market with good momentum is when you'll get the best results.
   
   Now, according to our buy setup strategy, we want to look for the next reliable cluster of VPOCS, or "resistance". It's actually pretty easy to find. For example, if VPOC's in an area are moving up or down gradually away from each other this is NOT a cluster.
   
   Price REALLY respects these VPOCs so even when there's only a cluster of 2, it can definitely react. Obviously, the more the better.
   
   So let's find the next cluster so we can look for the breakout. I like to to look far left and see if I can find multiple instances of a cluster and use the price range tool to market my zones.
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   Notice how there's two clear areas that create clusters of VPOCs. Now remember, you dont want to include the VPOC's enter and exiting the cluster.
   
   So now that we have identified some cluster zones, lets get back to the current setup and see where we can enter and take profit.
   
   
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   This is how my bracket order would be setup. I would be VERY VERY confident with trade because we can see descending VPOCs - (opposite of cluster) which means price is likely to move right through this zone to the next level. ( area to fill)
   
   
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   *edit but dont feel like changing pics. TP would be a little lower than top of zone