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  • #621
  • Feb 1, 2022 8:24am Feb 1, 2022 8:24am
Quoting BlackNapkins
{quote} Ok, so you judged whole thread without studying this ... seems to me a bit strange ... but OK... Stay Well
No I judges his comment. That's all.

Anyway.. Is forex education misleading or everyone is stupid?
  • #622
  • Feb 1, 2022 8:28am Feb 1, 2022 8:28am
Quoting moodybot
{quote} So you only charge $200 an hour. I might be up for that! How long have you been teaching? How many hours would the average dude need.
You took wrong information from my message. I do not sell or provide any paid services.
I just said that every newbie trader start his trading journey by drawing lines
Observer effect
  • #623
  • Feb 1, 2022 8:39am Feb 1, 2022 8:39am
Quoting ElmPie
{quote} No I judges his comment. That's all. Anyway.. Is forex education misleading or everyone is stupid?
Most of the people are stupid as well most of forex education is misleading... This obvious statement is closing 32 pages discussion
  • #624
  • Feb 1, 2022 8:41am Feb 1, 2022 8:41am
Quoting ryuryu
{quote} You took wrong information from my message. I do not sell or provide any paid services. I just said that every newbie trader start his trading journey by drawing lines
So you delete your posts to backtrack ?
Disappointing.

Quoting ryuryu
{quote} Every time I start teaching someone how to trade I ask how he traded, what he did. I ask him to show.
It never gets easier, you just get better
  • #625
  • Feb 1, 2022 9:33am Feb 1, 2022 9:33am
Quoting Shabs19
{quote} So you delete your posts to backtrack ? Disappointing. Quoting ryuryu {quote} Every time I start teaching someone how to trade I ask how he traded, what he did. I ask him to show.
I said that every newbie starts with drawing lines. That's why I don't believe that it is possible to be profitable drawing lines and rectangles.
But you all "saw" only 200$/hour and started discussing it. That's why I decided to delete the post.

I do not sell or provide any paid services. The post was about my experience and statistics.
Observer effect
  • #626
  • Feb 1, 2022 9:39am Feb 1, 2022 9:39am
Quoting ryuryu
{quote} I said that every newbie starts with drawing lines. That's why I don't believe that it is possible to be profitable drawing lines and rectangles. But you all "saw" only 200$/hour and started discussing it. That's why I decided to delete the post. I do not sell or provide any paid services. The post was about my experience and statistics.
I am sorry not buying that explanation, your middle name isn't de Pfeffel by any chance ?

It never gets easier, you just get better
  • #627
  • Feb 1, 2022 10:36am Feb 1, 2022 10:36am
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  • Feb 1, 2022 11:31am Feb 1, 2022 11:31am
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Scammer Aussi no longer gives any pictures. He only publishes this:
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  • #629
  • Feb 1, 2022 12:50pm Feb 1, 2022 12:50pm
Quoting ryuryu
{quote} I said that every newbie starts with drawing lines. That's why I don't believe that it is possible to be profitable drawing lines and rectangles. But you all "saw" only 200$/hour and started discussing it. That's why I decided to delete the post. I do not sell or provide any paid services. The post was about my experience and statistics.
You must be a kid who hasn't yet learned humility or the art of not continuously putting his foot in his mouth...
  • #630
  • Feb 1, 2022 1:31pm Feb 1, 2022 1:31pm
Quoting ryuryu
{quote} The post was about my experience and statistics.
they dont get that part here.

for example, i have reported on mql5 forum, in the mt4 bugs report part of it, that from mt4 v.1340 to v.1350, when the terminal is closed by pressing the exit, some charts windows do kick out the EA from the itself. and the more you restart the mt4, the less EAs are left on the chart windows (!?!). until no EA is left on ANY chart.

same thing happens when a profile is saved! even in the current mt4 v.1353. still! when saving a profile and loading it, even a restart is not required, the EA(s) start being kicked out of the charts!

it is just the sequence of saving the indies/EAs on the chart is WRONG. and it is in the LOG!

buy metaquotes dont care...

and here we go. our software is faulty, while the mt4 server replied with CRAP and NONSENSE...

hell, these are brainless, in the lightest non-offensive way possible!

hey, it is YOUR FAULT!

Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #631
  • Feb 1, 2022 2:12pm Feb 1, 2022 2:12pm
Quoting MoneyZilla
and here we go. our software is faulty, while the mt4 server replied with CRAP and NONSENSE...
Let's stop for a moment and think more deeply. Metaquotes is a multi-million dollar company with a team of experienced, professional software engineers who have developed an application used by thousands of people around the world for over 15 years.

And on the other hand we have MoneyZilla and his friend who is a "coder". Their collaborated EA is traded by *one* person who has no idea how software or the Internet works.

The friend's program encounters some errors while issuing trade requests over the Internet. Now -- I would claim a rational person would consider the possible sources of the error -- either my friend's code or MetaQuotes code -- and weigh the probabilities. And, perhaps, even take into account some of the advice and clues provided in this thread.

If I'm afraid of embarrassing my friend and making an ass of myself because I've already gone down the path of blaming brokers for my losing trades then, of course, I would blame MetaQuotes. On the other hand, if I truly want to improve my trading results then I might consider asking my friend to revisit his code.

MoneyZilla -- you aren't serious about trading. Your post has nothing to do with ryuryu's boast of charging $200 / hr to teach newbie traders, yet you've chosen to jump off the cliff with him. On the way down perhaps he can share some of his trading gems with you -- at a discount, of course...
  • #632
  • Feb 1, 2022 2:30pm Feb 1, 2022 2:30pm
Quoting ohitsyou
{quote} Your post has nothing to do with ryuryu's boast of charging $200 / hr to teach newbie traders, yet you've chosen to jump off the cliff with him. On the way down perhaps he can share some of his trading gems with you -- at a discount, of course...
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  • #633
  • Feb 1, 2022 3:23pm Feb 1, 2022 3:23pm
Quoting ohitsyou
{quote} Let's stop for a moment and think more deeply. Metaquotes is a multi-million dollar company with a team of experienced, professional software engineers who have developed an application used by thousands of people around the world for over 15 years. And on the other hand we have MoneyZilla and his friend who is a "coder". Their collaborated EA is traded by *one* person who has no idea how software or the Internet works. The friend's program encounters some errors while issuing trade requests over the Internet. Now -- I would claim a rational...
i will make you a video with mt4 v.1353 how this trash of a software kicks out the EAs from the charts with every next restart.

how do you create all these lies i have no idea?!?

all these "interpretations" of your have absolutely nothing with what i have described.

are you an underpaid employee of metaquotes?

you start looking exactly as such.

they talk similar bollocks on their so called forum website.

you tell them the mt4 kicks out the EAs from the chart with every next mt4 restart and they are telling you to download their next stupid version with does exactly the same... hello?

please ask metaquotes for bigger salary or commissions. you are trying so hard i can tell!

you deserve it, dear!
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #634
  • Edited 3:34pm Feb 1, 2022 3:24pm | Edited 3:34pm
Quoting ohitsyou
Your post has nothing to do with ryuryu's boast of charging $200 / hr to teach newbie traders, yet you've chosen to jump off the cliff with him. On the way down perhaps he can share some of his trading gems with you -- at a discount, of course...
Discount??? No discounts!!! No money no honey - go draw lines!

p.s. I do not sell or provide any paid services

Quoting MoneyZilla
{quote} i will make you a video with mt4 v.1353 how this trash of a software kicks out the EAs from the charts with every next restart.
Metaquotes are scammers and cheaters. Their business is to scam people with fake EAs and signals. Their mt5 shows profits with no commission!!! If you post about it on their forum they will ban you forever. Disgusting attitude towards customers. But they have created new version with new icons! How sweet. New icons! We all need icons but not to let the software show REAL profit/loss.

Once they really were the first and turned the world of trade. But now they have completely lost their meaning and not only are they ruining everything they have done, but they are also doing it so that traders stop trusting not only them, but the market as a whole.

BTW Pepperstone is available though tradingview. Will try it soon. May be there will be no need to use that mt5. Also I want to try motivewave. Looks good, javascript driven, but there are still no connections with my brokers... So will wait until they add icmarkets or pepperstone.
Observer effect
  • #635
  • Edited 3:41pm Feb 1, 2022 3:29pm | Edited 3:41pm
Quoting ohitsyou
{quote} Let's stop for a moment and think more deeply. M.
It might surprise you but probability of code error is much much bigger on MetaQuotes side...
and this has nothing to do with trust only with complexity od the software
  • #636
  • Feb 1, 2022 3:34pm Feb 1, 2022 3:34pm
Quoting MoneyZilla
{quote} i will make you a video with mt4 v.1353 how this trash of a software kicks out the EAs from the charts with every next restart. how do you create all these lies i have no idea?!? all these "interpretations" of your have absolutely nothing with what i have described. are you an underpaid employee of metaquotes? you start looking exactly as such. they talk similar bollocks on their so called forum website. you tell them the mt4 kicks out the EAs from the chart with every next mt4 restart and they are telling...
If you so hate MetaQuotes and their software then why do you keep using it? Is it because you like to complain?
  • #637
  • Edited 4:02pm Feb 1, 2022 3:47pm | Edited 4:02pm
Quoting BlackNapkins
{quote} It might surprise you but probability of code error is much much bigger on Metaquote side... and this has nothing to do with trust only with complexity od the software
No doubt that MT4 is a more complex application than MoneyZilla's EA. And considering what it does you'd have to admit it is a pretty amazing piece of software -- right? It made available FX trading to a whole generation of retail traders who previously couldn't have traded online.

The point was trying to make is that when MoneyZilla weighs the probability of a bug in his friend's code or MetaQuotes's code he can't even contemplate it might be in his friend's code. And he even provided a code snippet and acknowledged the retry errors. These are issues that have to be addressed in his EA (or VPS) if we wants to avoid those errors.

He's too deep into the blame game and prefers using a broken EA than facing the embarrassment of being wrong. Seems to be a pretty common theme around here...
  • #638
  • Feb 1, 2022 4:01pm Feb 1, 2022 4:01pm
Quoting ohitsyou
{quote} He's too deep into the blame game and prefers using a broken EA than facing the embarrassment of being wrong.
MT4 is a nice pice of software, there is no doubt about, but it does not change nothing in probability of code error... Every software has errors, more complicate software has lots of errors is simple as that... there is no complex software without code errors. I like windows very much I only hate numerous updates mostly because code errors... as an example, have you already tried Win 11?
What I am saying you can not simply judge is definitely MZ fault. You just don't know this.
  • #639
  • Feb 1, 2022 4:04pm Feb 1, 2022 4:04pm
Quoting ohitsyou
{quote} If you so hate MetaQuotes and their software then why do you keep using it? Is it because you like to complain?
How did you create that "hate" of mine towards mq?
Amazing!

Tell me about your LOVE with the mq mt4 app and the mt4 server?

the mt4 app and the mt4 server never, ever, go faulty, right?
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #640
  • Feb 1, 2022 4:13pm Feb 1, 2022 4:13pm
Quoting ohitsyou
{quote} No doubt that MT4 is a more complex application than MoneyZilla's EA. And considering what it does you'd have to admit it is a pretty amazing piece of software -- right? It made available FX trading to a whole generation of retail traders who previously couldn't have traded online. The point was trying to make is that when MoneyZilla weighs the probability of a bug in his friend's code or MetaQuotes's code he can't even contemplate it might be in his friend's code. And he even provided a code snippet and acknowledged the retry errors. These...
Lets see what you made up here.

Strange interpretations... LOL!

So, i work with a swedish dev. SWEDISH. He is a damn pro.

Here is my last invoice's snapshot.
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Here is the first and the last invoice, as a list in dropbox:
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So, he makes my EAs/indis. Maybe we are friends...

However, I trade with my EA on my friend's personal account. Who is badly penetrated by the broker's mt4 server. Cause we trade there 1.0 lot. And there seems to have a special kind of a filter...

My friend is from Africa. From Aconibe. EQG. Capish?
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
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