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  • #1,208,581
  • Jan 19, 2022 7:41am Jan 19, 2022 7:41am
Quoting Bones
{quote} the real rate is very negative ,no point in throwing other categories of the type of trader someone is the higher inflation goes the more negative rates go until the fed really deal with the problem which is specific to to the times this is why I'm saying some of you guys are stuck in the past with your ideas ,inflation is way hotter than the fed ever reckoned, now they got a dilemma Thats why the $ falls at the same time as raising rates talk
Pardon me? USD falls? Where dude? EURUSD is going down since the last summer and DXY goes up since then. What chart are you looking at? 1 hour? The guy who blames me for being outdated uses candlestick patterns and trendlines, and seems like he draws wrong trendlines in EURUSD chart.

Your analysis is wrong and it's proved wrong. You are outdated not us, since you only had 2 winners in 2021.

Anyways, i was arguing with you to inform people properly and protect them from your misleading info. Not that i am willing to talk to you. You are too stubborn, and you never accept what you did wrong.

All in all, negative rate concept is not wrong but even in negative rate cases currency can strengthen against the others. Because for a currency to appreciate, it doesn't have to beat the other currency all the time, it just needs to beat it's own old performance. For example let's look at EURUSD:

EURUSD went down to 1.12 in early December, because of hawkish FED and dovish ECB and also higher than expected core inflation and growth numbers from Euro Area. Also US unemployment rate fell a lot too, which made the markets price in a very hawkish FED.

But what caused this pullback? On 16th December ECB decided to reduce PEPP, which means they are tapering, and that is hawkish. So a hawkish ECB caused this pullback and market decided to price EURUSD around 1.13-1.14

So Euro did not beat the USD, since ECB is way behind of the FED when it comes to tightening, but Euro beat it's own old performance.
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  • #1,208,582
  • Jan 19, 2022 7:45am Jan 19, 2022 7:45am
Quoting ForexGoose
If you believe in following trend lines, then look at the 55 DMA and 100 DMA. I think that if the daily candle closes under the 55 DMA today, then the bulls are done. If not, then maybe they can try to reach the 100 DMA this week or next. {image}
stuck around the 55 DMA so far today and the bulls look exhausted already
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  • #1,208,583
  • Jan 19, 2022 7:46am Jan 19, 2022 7:46am
Quoting Nordling00
FED's current interest rate is 0.25%, which basically means you will get 0.25% interest annually for holding your savings in the bank. So basically this is the interest you GET. This is set by the FED, not by the free markets. US 10 year treasury yield (US10Y) is currently 1.87% which means you will at least pay 1.87% interest for your loans (at least 1.87%, you will likely to pay more than that) and this is the interest that you PAY. This is set by the free markets and changes everyday. If the FED hikes that 0.25% interest rate and it will, this...
This is all you need about the rates as traders guys.
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  • #1,208,584
  • Jan 19, 2022 7:50am Jan 19, 2022 7:50am
Quoting Nordling00
{quote} Pardon me? USD falls? Where dude? EURUSD is going down since the last summer and DXY goes up since then. What chart are you looking at? 1 hour? The guy who blames me for being outdated uses candlestick patterns and trendlines, and seems like he draws wrong trendlines in EURUSD chart. Your analysis is wrong and it's proved wrong. You are outdated not us, since you only had 2 winners in 2021. Anyways, i was arguing with you to inform people properly and protect them from your misleading info. Not that i am willing to talk to you. You are too...
There is no need to talk to the dimwits. Their ignorance is beyond imagination.

It will be entertaining to see them borrowing $100 from the bank and yelling to only pay back $93 next year because "they gained 7.23% from the negative interest rate". Yo, why not borrow as much money one can from the bank and sit for a year profiting from the "7.23% gain"?

These people don't trade, never loan or invest. Therefore they never understand dollar value and buying power.
  • #1,208,585
  • Jan 19, 2022 7:54am Jan 19, 2022 7:54am
Quoting Nordling00
By hiking the rates, FED will make people wanna keep their money on savings accounts and reduce the amount of money that's been spending and circulating.
What about if a company doesn't want to keep USD due to higher interest rates? Can't they convert it to some other currency and invest it outside of the U.S. to support their operations?
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  • #1,208,586
  • Jan 19, 2022 8:08am Jan 19, 2022 8:08am
Quoting Nordling00
{quote} Pardon me? USD falls? Where dude? EURUSD is going down since the last summer and DXY goes up since then. What chart are you looking at? 1 hour? The guy who blames me for being outdated uses candlestick patterns and trendlines, and seems like he draws wrong trendlines in EURUSD chart. Your analysis is wrong and it's proved wrong. You are outdated not us, since you only had 2 winners in 2021. Anyways, i was arguing with you to inform people properly and protect them from your misleading info. Not that i am willing to talk to you. You are too...
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  • #1,208,587
  • Jan 19, 2022 8:12am Jan 19, 2022 8:12am
This is where patience needs to be practiced. Holding EU until traders give up and then they go south
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  • #1,208,588
  • Jan 19, 2022 8:12am Jan 19, 2022 8:12am
new rule
if you don't know what a real rate is your not allowed to quote me
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  • #1,208,589
  • Jan 19, 2022 8:20am Jan 19, 2022 8:20am
Quoting Bones
new rule if you don't know what a real rate is your not allowed to quote me
Stop talking about macroeconomics, you have no idea what you're doing when it comes to that topic. We are on to you so you don't give new traders false information. Stop talking about macroeconomics and go educate yourself first. You are talking about interest rate for the past two days, and you are not getting it. Stop stretching it.
  • #1,208,590
  • Jan 19, 2022 8:23am Jan 19, 2022 8:23am
Quoting Bones
{quote} {image}
Stop talking about macroeconomics, you have no idea what you're doing when it comes to that topic. We are on to you so you don't give new traders false information. Stop talking about macroeconomics and go educate yourself first. You are talking about interest rate for the past two days, and you are not getting it. Stop stretching it.
  • #1,208,591
  • Jan 19, 2022 8:23am Jan 19, 2022 8:23am
Quoting Bones
other things are devaluing much faster V $ than comparing of fiat ,all fiat look ugly like houses or general commodities or stock market maybe bitcoin recent times {image}
Stop talking about macroeconomics, you have no idea what you're doing when it comes to that topic. We are on to you so you don't give new traders false information. Stop talking about macroeconomics and go educate yourself first. You are talking about interest rate for the past two days, and you are not getting it. Stop stretching it.
  • #1,208,592
  • Jan 19, 2022 8:23am Jan 19, 2022 8:23am
Quoting Bones
{quote} the real rate is very negative ,no point in throwing other categories of the type of trader someone is the higher inflation goes the more negative rates go until the fed really deal with the problem which is specific to to the times this is why I'm saying some of you guys are stuck in the past with your ideas ,inflation is way hotter than the fed ever reckoned, now they got a dilemma Thats why the $ falls at the same time as raising rates talk
Stop talking about macroeconomics, you have no idea what you're doing when it comes to that topic. We are on to you so you don't give new traders false information. Stop talking about macroeconomics and go educate yourself first. You are talking about interest rate for the past two days, and you are not getting it. Stop stretching it.
  • #1,208,593
  • Jan 19, 2022 8:28am Jan 19, 2022 8:28am
Quoting Bones
{quote} {image}
Hey Bones I hate to say but you don't really belong here.

We trade Fx here. USD can be weak from now on no one knows, but the fact is USD strength dropped from Mar 2020 and raised since Feb 2021. Gold is no longer bound with USD but as a reference XAU peaked in Aug 2020.
When trading, we only look at relative strength.

If you are to compare USD with commodities, that is purchasing power. Better warn those in Metals Mine, Energy Exch and Crypto Craft

Good luck in your trading in mind.

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  • #1,208,594
  • Jan 19, 2022 8:32am Jan 19, 2022 8:32am
Forex:

Fundamentally everything leads to GDP, inflation, interest rates and risk sentiment.
  • #1,208,595
  • Jan 19, 2022 8:34am Jan 19, 2022 8:34am
The claim the fed reserve was created to help us from bank runs lol.
They helped us by printing enough debt paper to reach the moon.
Thanks Fed
The private corporation that issues the moon elevator of debt paper.
Is the corner stone of US economy
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They're saving us with central banking can you feel that salvation folks?
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  • #1,208,596
  • Jan 19, 2022 8:41am Jan 19, 2022 8:41am
Quoting Bones
{quote} {image}
This is EU thread, i am talking about EURUSD and you are throwing a commodity chart at me. Honestly mate don't be this stubborn it is annoying for other people.
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  • #1,208,597
  • Jan 19, 2022 8:42am Jan 19, 2022 8:42am
Quoting tommydoginti
{quote} Hey Bones I hate to say but you don't really belong here. We trade Fx here. USD can be weak from now on no one knows, but the fact is USD strength dropped from Mar 2020 and raised since Feb 2021. Gold is no longer bound with USD but as a reference XAU peaked in Aug 2020. When trading, we only look at relative strength. If you are to compare USD with commodities, that is purchasing power. Better warn those in Metals Mine, Energy Exch and Crypto Craft Good luck in your trading in mind. {image}
I posted usdx already, it isn't a dumb nothing chart like that
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  • #1,208,598
  • Jan 19, 2022 8:44am Jan 19, 2022 8:44am
Quoting Nordling00
{quote} This is EU thread, i am talking about EURUSD and you are throwing a commodity chart at me. Honestly mate don't be this stubborn it is annoying for other people.
I'm talking about the $
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  • #1,208,599
  • Jan 19, 2022 8:48am Jan 19, 2022 8:48am
Quoting Bones
new rule if you don't know what a real rate is your not allowed to quote me
I know what it is and i use it when it comes to investing.

But in trading you can also buy a currency with a negative interest rate against a positive one for a short period of time. Because it is trading, it is short term. Let's say for a month on average. So you buy the rumour and sell the fact. And i explained how it's done on my previous post, showing it on EURUSD.
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  • #1,208,600
  • Jan 19, 2022 8:50am Jan 19, 2022 8:50am
Quoting Nordling00
{quote} I know what it is and i use it when it comes to investing. But in trading you can also buy a currency with a negative interest rate against a positive one for a short period of time. Because it is trading, it is short term. Let's say for a month on average. So you buy the rumour and sell the fact. And i explained how it's done on my previous post, showing it on EURUSD.
Talking to him about macroeconomics, it is like talking to a child. We are literally giving him FREE information, and he goes on talking nonsense. This is fun HAHA.
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