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  • #1,208,501
  • Jan 18, 2022 2:00pm Jan 18, 2022 2:00pm
This thread really isn't about EURUSD. It's about people flexing their muscles. This is juvenile, and it needs to stop.
Learn from your mistakes and march on.
  • #1,208,502
  • Edited 4:46pm Jan 18, 2022 2:06pm | Edited 4:46pm
Quoting here2there
This thread really isn't about EURUSD. It's about people flexing their muscles. This is juvenile, and it needs to stop.
i respect you and every body, bros. but some assholes pushed me up,, ok i respected every body to prove my behavior,, cheer,, go back to PS4 games
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  • #1,208,503
  • Edited 2:47pm Jan 18, 2022 2:17pm | Edited 2:47pm
Quoting trumps
{quote} Hi Bones, I was reading up on this. "The most influential economics tool the central bank has under its control is the ability to increase or decrease the discount rate. Shifts in this crucial interest rate have a drastic effect on the building blocks of macroeconomics, such as consumer spending and borrowing". https://www.investopedia.com/ask/ans...es-economy.asp This is the only interest rate the Fed has the power...
the discount rate is when a bank borrows from the central bank ,its a last resort when a bank can't get it anywhere else
they did change some rules I'm not following it exactly but you know a banks in trouble should it go there ,thats why they don't , also its more expensive

the rate that affects everything is the fed funds rate ,its going to be a range say 0 to 0.25% because its not an exact science
so all those rates along the curve include the fed funds which is essentially 0% right now


' Fed funds is set as a range between an upper and lower limit, currently 0% to 0.25%.4 Jan 2022'
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  • #1,208,504
  • Jan 18, 2022 2:25pm Jan 18, 2022 2:25pm
QE drives the curve down especially at the short end ,because thats mostly where the fed are
the fed deal in debt there and keep rolling it over
but the whole curve gets dragged down from QE

so all those rates at the short end really are as close to 0 as possible
banks are flush with cash right now , they don't need it from the central bank
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  • #1,208,505
  • Jan 18, 2022 2:36pm Jan 18, 2022 2:36pm
the banks are actually giving the central bank back a lot of money
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  • #1,208,506
  • Jan 18, 2022 2:47pm Jan 18, 2022 2:47pm
Quoting Bones
QE drives the curve down especially at the short end ,because thats mostly where the fed are the fed deal in debt there and keep rolling it over but the whole curve gets dragged down from QE so all those rates at the short end really are as close to 0 as possible banks are flush with cash right now , they don't need it from the central bank
The yield curve can take on a variety of shapes: flat, upward sloping, and downward sloping. The various rounds of QE caused the Fed to buy various financial instruments in order to increase prices and lower yields. This will reduce the spread between short and long term interest rates.

Rates are not at 0.
  • #1,208,507
  • Jan 18, 2022 2:49pm Jan 18, 2022 2:49pm
Quoting Bones
{quote} the discount rate is when a bank borrows from the central bank ,its a last resort when a bank can't get it anywhere else they did change some rules I'm not following it exactly but you know a banks in trouble should it go there ,thats why they don't , also its more expensive the rate that affects everything is the fed funds rate ,its going to be a range say 0 to 0.25% because its not an exact science so all those rates along the curve include the fed funds which is essentially 0% right now ' Fed funds is set as a range between an upper and...
Stop looking at fed funds rate overnight, it will confuse you. Macroeconomics are applied on medium to long term trading. Stick to interest rates which for now is 0.25%. Buy the rumour sell the fact. When Fed starts talking about tapering, rising interest rates, you will notice the reaction, when they want to rise interest rates, USD will go up. On the chart is EURUSD so the opposite selling EURUSD. So we knew in June that fed are looking to rise interest rates, and it starts going up the USD in this case EURUSD going opposite, down. You don't trade fundamentals in the same minute, you don't trade news on reaction, that is like flipping a coin, you need to do analysis, which they provide day to day basis, weekly analysis, monthly analysis. And you watch that on the chart and follow the macroeconomics.
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  • #1,208,508
  • Jan 18, 2022 3:05pm Jan 18, 2022 3:05pm
Quoting Techanalyst
{quote} Stop looking at fed funds rate overnight, it will confuse you. Macroeconomics are applied on medium to long term trading. Stick to interest rates which for now is 0.25%. Buy the rumour sell the fact. When Fed starts talking about tapering, rising interest rates, you will notice the reaction, when they want to rise interest rates, USD will go up. On the chart is EURUSD so the opposite selling EURUSD. So we knew in June that fed are looking to rise interest rates, and it starts going up the USD in this case EURUSD going opposite, down. You...
what interest rate is 025% ? no one deals with the fed themselves its not their job ,your confused
they set the rate between banks ,the fed funds rate

interest rate are free market , with inflation, are hugely negative 5-7 % right now
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  • #1,208,509
  • Jan 18, 2022 3:12pm Jan 18, 2022 3:12pm
Quoting Bones
{quote} what interest rate is 025% ? no one deals with the fed themselves its not their job ,your confused they set the rate between banks ,the fed funds rate interest rate are free market , with inflation, are hugely negative 5-7 % right now
Bones, I have explained it to you how macroeconomics work. You are still not getting it, yet you are arguing and debating. I am not debating with you, I am not asking if you think that bank analysis are right or wrong, I am telling you to stop debating about it, learn first and than you can start sharing macroeconomics analysis. I have shared everything and explained it as much as possible in the most simple way. I have put it in the bold letters and the size to maximum, and yet you are still not getting it. Interest rates are at 0.25 now, but back in June 2021, fed started talking about tapering and rising interest rates. Market started reacting, that's it. What negative 5-7% are you talking about i have no idea. But like I said, this is not a debate, you are not getting it, and you do not understand macroeconomics, so stop stretching it, because it has no meaning or value to it. Learn about it macroeconomics first and than we can talk about further analysis. Until than, there is no point of talking about it. In this case, you are wrong, you don't get it. Read over and over what I shared with you and you will eventually get it.

Watch this video this guy explains it very well.

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  • #1,208,510
  • Jan 18, 2022 3:18pm Jan 18, 2022 3:18pm
Quoting Techanalyst
{quote} Bones, I have explained it to you how macroeconomics work. You are still not getting it, yet you are arguing and debating. I am not debating with you, I am not asking if you think that bank analysis are right or wrong, I am telling you to stop debating about it, learn first and than you can start sharing macroeconomics analysis. I have shared everything and explained it as much as possible in the most simple way. I have put it in the bold letters and the size to maximum, and yet you are still not getting it. Interest rates are at 0.25 now,...
well inflation is 7 % the real interest rate is very negative ,thats what's different now
if you talk discount window still I don't know what to say
banks deal with each other not the fed ,the fed buys debt not sell
it sets a base rate between banks thats the one that matters your confusing everyone
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  • #1,208,511
  • Jan 18, 2022 3:19pm Jan 18, 2022 3:19pm
Quoting Bones
{quote} well inflation is 7 % the real interest rate is very negative ,thats what's different now if you talk discount window still I don't know what to say banks deal with each other not the fed ,the fed buys debt not sell it sets a base rate between banks thats the one that matters your confusing everyone
I am not confusing anyone. You are confused. Watch the video, and stop sharing about macroeconomics, because you do not understand it.
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  • #1,208,512
  • Jan 18, 2022 3:25pm Jan 18, 2022 3:25pm
Quoting Bones
{quote} the discount rate is when a bank borrows from the central bank ,its a last resort when a bank can't get it anywhere else they did change some rules I'm not following it exactly but you know a banks in trouble should it go there ,thats why they don't , also its more expensive the rate that affects everything is the fed funds rate ,its going to be a range say 0 to 0.25% because its not an exact science so all those rates along the curve include the fed funds which is essentially 0% right now ' Fed funds is set as a range between an upper and...
Hi mate, yes I know the Discount rate is the rate at which banks borrow from the central bank, that was all in the links I provided.
The point is, according to the information I have read, it is a VERY IMPORTANT RATE from a MACRO-ECONOMIC point of view. It affects all the other rates. I provided a quote from the website link that outlines this.

You seem to be saying it's not very important because it's only a rate provided when banks can't borrow interbank.
The information I have provided says it is a very important rate.
Compulsions can be hard to resist
  • #1,208,513
  • Jan 18, 2022 3:30pm Jan 18, 2022 3:30pm
Quoting Techanalyst
{quote} Watch this video this guy explains it very well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGn6XL-G3tw {image}

This video has really good content - well worth investing the time to watch this, and watch again - thanks for sharing!
  • #1,208,514
  • Jan 18, 2022 3:31pm Jan 18, 2022 3:31pm
Quoting Bones
{quote} well inflation is 7 % the real interest rate is very negative ,thats what's different now if you talk discount window still I don't know what to say banks deal with each other not the fed ,the fed buys debt not sell it sets a base rate between banks thats the one that matters your confusing everyone
From what I have read in the links provided, the Fed does not directly set the Fed Funds Rate. For example, it cannot say, you will lend to each other at x% until told otherwise by us.
It can only move it or influence it within a range, by controlling money supply.

It is the Discount Rate the Fed directly sets, and from what I have read in the links provided, it is a very important rate that affects other rates and has an important impact from a Macro economic Point of View.

From what I have read in the links provided, When the Fed moves the Discount Rate, the other rates tend to move with it.
Compulsions can be hard to resist
  • #1,208,515
  • Jan 18, 2022 3:31pm Jan 18, 2022 3:31pm
Quoting Techanalyst
{quote} I am not confusing anyone. You are confused. Watch the video, and stop sharing about macroeconomics, because you do not understand it. {image}
Thats a hugely negative real rate then ?
its 0% to 0,25%
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  • #1,208,516
  • Jan 18, 2022 3:32pm Jan 18, 2022 3:32pm
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  • #1,208,517
  • Jan 18, 2022 3:34pm Jan 18, 2022 3:34pm
Quoting trumps
{quote} From what I have read in the links provided, the Fed does not directly set the Fed Funds Rate. For example, it cannot say, you will lend to each other at x% until told otherwise by us. It can only move it or influence it by controlling money supply. It is the Discount Rate the Fed directly sets, and from what I have read in the links provided, it is a very important rate that affects other rates and has an important impact from a Macro economic Point of View. From what I have read in the links provided, When the Fed moves the Discount Rate,...

another one ignored lol
  • #1,208,518
  • Jan 18, 2022 3:38pm Jan 18, 2022 3:38pm
Quoting Techanalyst
{quote} Bones, I have explained it to you how macroeconomics work. You are still not getting it, yet you are arguing and debating. I am not debating with you, I am not asking if you think that bank analysis are right or wrong, I am telling you to stop debating about it, learn first and than you can start sharing macroeconomics analysis. I have shared everything and explained it as much as possible in the most simple way. I have put it in the bold letters and the size to maximum, and yet you are still not getting it. Interest rates are at 0.25 now,...
The 0.25% is the Discount rate right?
When the Fed adjusts it up or down or talks about adjusting it, the markets react.

So when the Fed talk about adjusting interest rates, they are talking about the Discount Rate. Is that right?
Compulsions can be hard to resist
  • #1,208,519
  • Jan 18, 2022 3:39pm Jan 18, 2022 3:39pm
Quoting Windstrown
{quote} another one ignored lol
Good for you Buddy.
No idea why you are ignoring me. I am just trying to get clarification.
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  • #1,208,520
  • Jan 18, 2022 3:40pm Jan 18, 2022 3:40pm
Quoting trumps
{quote} The 0.25% is the Discount rate right? When the Fed adjusts it up or down or talks about adjusting it, the markets react. So when the Fed talk about adjusting interest rates, they are talking about the Discount Rate. Is that right?
discount rate is the top of the range no one borrows off the fed, cause thats the most expensive also its only there for emergency
the system of rates is a free market between banks ,when no QE is happening
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