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  • #1
  • First Post: Edited 2:58pm Jan 11, 2022 1:45pm | Edited 2:58pm
What a nice thread here - original CHEETAH method.

Read that thread and will understand CHEETAH method.

In short:
Make 12 in row profitable trades with risk/reward at least 1/1 - on every success trade, double next deal volume.

Seems the author of the original ChEETAH already did his mission - no more here in FF more than 1 year.

Now it is my turn.

I found 1 nice EA setup where in 7 years there were 11 times n=12 achieved. On average 1.5 times per year. And risk/reward 1/2.

Even if EA used just as it is.. it performed very good in backtests:

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It might be too good to be true of course... backtests are an illusion maybe... ok ok.. i know..

BUT still... can you remember risk/reward 1/2 EA which do 12 wins in a row and do that 11 times in 7 years? I didnt saw so many EAs setups so far...Actually not a single one so far.. Till today!

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But here is one (at least) doubtful situation - all trades are closed exactly 1 hour after midnight.. so here is weekends (closed on Monday night).. there are gaps. And have question about liquidity at that time for EURUSD and AUDUSD.... this might be problem in real life.

Anyway this thread is dedicated to CHEETAH method and find those win n=12 EAs setups.

In this thread will deal with various EAs ideas but the main target - anomalies that n=12 can be found very frequently. Then will try on live - when calculating the right approach. For example, have 10 attempts per year with 100 usd each and once do 400k in profits. Something like that.
  • #2
  • Jan 11, 2022 2:40pm Jan 11, 2022 2:40pm
Set up that EA just to run with small real money 100 usd account and see how it goes. At this moment no hunting for n=12.. just to see how it performs for example 1 month. Meanwhile continue to optimize and see best approach for cheetah hunting season 2022
  • #3
  • Jan 12, 2022 12:24am Jan 12, 2022 12:24am
Do you sell any EAs? I don't see any.
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  • #4
  • Jan 12, 2022 12:43am Jan 12, 2022 12:43am
How is this still in the Trading Systems?

I don't see any trade parameters.

The other thread has lots of math on how to double your money,

But still nothing on how to trade...

It takes a lot for me to IGNORE you, but you can try.
  • #5
  • Jan 12, 2022 2:56am Jan 12, 2022 2:56am
Quoting dokopy
Do you sell any EAs? I don't see any.
I do not sell any EA. And you better never use any other EA which is not done by you. You must understand every code line of an EA in order to run that with real money. If want to use EA you have to develop it by yourself.

I write here ideas - but implementation is on your side.
  • #6
  • Jan 12, 2022 3:03am Jan 12, 2022 3:03am
Quoting Erebus
How is this still in the Trading Systems? I don't see any trade parameters. The other thread has lots of math on how to double your money, But still nothing on how to trade...
in post #1 i wrote:

Quoting gepards
Anyway this thread is dedicated to CHEETAH method and find those win n=12 EAs setups. In this thread will deal with various EAs ideas but the main target - anomalies that n=12 can be found very frequently.
Here is nothing ready "take it and use it".. the "system" is in mind and the core target of "system" to find is it must give win series frequently with n = 12. Usually, I focused on the profitability of strategies.. but here do not care about deal-by-deal profits but am interested to get risk/reward 1/1 win series. Focus on that.

The original CHEETAH thread was under "Trading systems". Maybe will find a "system" where n=6 or n=4 or something like that. That is a trading style to bet on win series. Why it is not a "system" ?

Anyway, if ff admins think this is not a proper place then can be moved to "Trading journal" section..
  • #7
  • Jan 12, 2022 3:09am Jan 12, 2022 3:09am
Quoting Erebus
But still nothing on how to trade...
For me seems not relevant "how" because to find anomalies where n=12 "strategies" might be weird.

On MT5 it is possible to implement in EA "Custom optimization" and this I never used before so will implement to find best setups not based on long-term profitability but based on win series n=X and how offten that repeat. In longterm deal-by-deal that might be wipeout.. but when catch win serie where every next deal is x2 volume than that 1 serie can cover all loses + make some profit.
  • #8
  • Jan 12, 2022 3:14am Jan 12, 2022 3:14am
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  • #9
  • Jan 12, 2022 3:18am Jan 12, 2022 3:18am
You should move the thread between puzzles, crosswords, astrology, etc.
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  • #10
  • Jan 12, 2022 3:34am Jan 12, 2022 3:34am
Quoting dokopy
You should move the thread between puzzles, crosswords, astrology, etc.
thank you. such reaction is sign that i am on the right way because this idea is not standard. the same way started my other threads... started with idea, then made EAs and now that EAs allready working more than 1 year..

for example this:

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And here you can see what comments was at the begining of for example this thread. And? I have running averaging/martingale BUT with SL used (never hit so far, and never hit in 10 years backtests). Have SL 20%. All those screaming "you will lose all money"... But yes at the begining a lot of "gurus" nailed at me... where they are now? Can any of them show what they did last year how performed?
  • #11
  • Jan 17, 2022 11:51pm Jan 17, 2022 11:51pm
Quoting gepards
{quote} thank you. such reaction is sign that i am on the right way because this idea is not standard. the same way started my other threads... started with idea, then made EAs and now that EAs allready working more than 1 year.. for example this: {image} And here you can see what comments was at the begining of for example this thread. And? I have running averaging/martingale BUT with SL used (never hit so far, and never hit in 10 years backtests). Have SL...
Where can you buy your EA?
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  • #12
  • Jan 18, 2022 12:49am Jan 18, 2022 12:49am
Quoting dokopy
{quote} Where can you buy your EA?
already answered to you this question before:

Quoting gepards
{quote} I do not sell any EA. And you better never use any other EA which is not done by you. You must understand every code line of an EA in order to run that with real money. If want to use EA you have to develop it by yourself. I write here ideas - but implementation is on your side.
  • #13
  • Jan 18, 2022 1:00am Jan 18, 2022 1:00am
continue to research. now trying to use my allready made EAs and maybe addapt.

meanwhile found this:

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In 4 years from 250 usd to 5200 usd. Here risk/reward is 250/5200. So reward is 20x more than risk. Maybe run 10 similar super risky accounts with 250 usd on various risky strategies "all in" and then even if only 1 succeed then it compensate all losers + make 100% profits. But if 2 of 10 succeeds then profits about 10000 usd and lose 2000 usd = 8000 usd profits what is 3x more than initial investment 2500 usd.

just thinking about this..maybe can find 250/30000 usd - saw such performance too. then it is even much more interesting
  • #14
  • Jan 18, 2022 1:54am Jan 18, 2022 1:54am
Quoting gepards
{quote} already answered to you this question before: {quote}
I'm sorry, I understand. This is not an advertisement, you just want to brag.
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  • #15
  • Jan 18, 2022 2:35am Jan 18, 2022 2:35am
Quoting dokopy
{quote} I'm sorry, I understand. This is not an advertisement, you just want to brag.
I wrote how I do so get comments and ideas how to improve. I share my ideas/results in exchange to other ideas/results. Read my other threads and will see I receive advice from other people on how to improve and what to consider. win win. and I do not provide EAs - i provide ideas and concepts. each FF reader can make his own EA based on ideas. if you can't code - I think you need to learn to code first and then start to trade.

keep in mind - i share a lot of my accounts in myfxbook and here in TEs and everybody can see all my deals. So just spent some time and will understand some logic behind my EAs. The same I do when see other people accounts. I investigate trades history to understand.

When I post my results appreciate that because I prove my words with real results. I want people to see that I do understand something so they come to my threads and invite other people to my threads by their LIKEs to my posts. So they invite maybe smarter people like me who can comment on my results and point to risks etc

For example with martingale/averaging - you can find a narrative that that approach is super dangerous. That accounts can be wiped out. But from my results, you can see that using SL for example 20% you still can use "dangerous" methods. all you need is correct money management. If dont have enough capital - use cent accounts.

I developed a lot EAs with strategies people exchange here in FF. This is how learning is done. You ask questions, you answer qustions, you show results (good or bad), analyze results, adjust your approach, teach others.

Because there are 5 levels in learning process. And the last one is this - teaching. When you explain to other something by writing answers - actually you get more benefit than those who asks questions. Because by trying to explain you finally fully understand topic you are talking about

you see even from this post i benefit more than you. because i better understand "why I wrote posts here"
  • #16
  • Jan 18, 2022 6:36am Jan 18, 2022 6:36am
Quoting gepards
{quote} I wrote how I do so get comments and ideas how to improve. I share my ideas/results in exchange to other ideas/results. Read my other threads and will see I receive advice from other people on how to improve and what to consider. win win. and I do not provide EAs - i provide ideas and concepts. each FF reader can make his own EA based on ideas. if you can't code - I think you need to learn to code first and then start to trade. keep in mind - i share a lot of my accounts in myfxbook and here in TEs and everybody can see all my deals. So...
Unfortunately, I will not do this because I do not understand the rules of trading.
Please excuse the bad English via Google Translate.
  • #17
  • Jan 18, 2022 2:56pm Jan 18, 2022 2:56pm
Quoting gepards
{quote} I wrote how I do so get comments and ideas how to improve. I share my ideas/results in exchange to other ideas/results. Read my other threads and will see I receive advice from other people on how to improve and what to consider. win win. and I do not provide EAs - i provide ideas and concepts. each FF reader can make his own EA based on ideas. if you can't code - I think you need to learn to code first and then start to trade. keep in mind - i share a lot of my accounts in myfxbook and here in TEs and everybody can see all my deals. So...
I agree with you!

What about explain us what are the rules behind this myfxbook ?

Average - GBPUSD
https://www.myfxbook.com/members/gep...gbpusd/7589743

Then other developers can try to code and share ideas/suggestions.



Thank you.
  • #18
  • Jan 18, 2022 3:25pm Jan 18, 2022 3:25pm
Quoting TheZenienss
{quote} I agree with you! What about explain us what are the rules behind this myfxbook ? Average - GBPUSD https://www.myfxbook.com/members/gep...gbpusd/7589743 Then other developers can try to code and share ideas/suggestions. Thank you.
a little bit too late (1 year late). this EA was developed in another thread. just read that and take ideas what you can.

keep in mind "exchange ideas" does not mean I write blueprints. Nobody will write exactly 100% blueprints of their hard work which is allready done and working with profits. But hint is this: almost does not matter when you enter if using averaging/martingale.. so your entry rules can be anything even Moving averages cross points. All question is about step levels and multipliers.

You can jump in my threads where I start new ideas and then you benefit more - for example this current thread and this thread with MFI for stocks.

But if you ask me blueprint of work allready finished.. well not fair exchange. My info is much much more valuable regarding that particular EA than any info you can give if you don't have similar results for 1 year of working EA.. not a fair offer from you in this case...

When starting new thread with new idea then we are equal. Agree?
  • #19
  • Edited 3:04pm Jan 19, 2022 2:39pm | Edited 3:04pm
using EURUSD averaging/martingale with step 5 pips and TP for all levels 10 pips. Starting balance each time 40 usd. Start lots 0.01. Leverage 1:500

2021.01 40 +196
2021.02.05 40 SO -30
2021.02.09 40 SO -32
2021.02.10 40 SO -36
2021.02.25 40 SO -32
2021.03 40 +138
2021.04.19 40 SO -23
2021.04.23 40 SO -30
2021.04.30 40 +9
2021.05.07 40 SO -30
2021.05.14 40 SO -30
2021.05.18 40 SO -36
2021.05.31 40 +22
2021.06.30 40 +40
2021.07.15 40 SO -30
2021.07.29 40 +23
2021.08.13 40 SO -30
2021.08.31 40 +29
2021.09 40 +49
2021.10 40 +78
2021.11.26 40 SO -30
2021.11.30 40 SO -34
2021.12 40 +91
---------
+265

This ended with solid profit. Was DD 130 usd. After each stop out (SO) recharge account. When stopout not all lost - sometimes still left some money therefore not allways need to recharge with 40 usd.

Start at begining of month. End at the end of month. If in between SO - then restart.

This strategy can be run with 260 usd total capital. Put on account 40 usd and run super risky dangerous martingale/averaging EA. As you see at the end of this experiment we have profits +265 usd. So we made 100% profits in 1 year. Think this is not bad but more tests needs to be done.

Just show how strategies can be used so you know that martingale/averaging is like a knife - when used with proper money management you are safe. When used with too big greed then lose everything. Be careful with this "knife"

How to optimize this.. well we see that maybe it better trade only at beginning of the month and if lost - then wait for next month to start. If do so then we have this:

2021.01 40 +196
2021.02.05 40 SO -30
2021.03 40 +138
2021.04.19 40 SO -23
2021.05.07 40 SO -30
2021.06 40 +40
2021.07.15 40 SO -30
2021.08.13 40 SO -30
2021.09 40 +49
2021.10 40 +78
2021.11.26 40 SO -30
2021.12 40 +91
---------
+419

This particular martingale/averaging run best when ranged markets. It seems if month start with wipeout then better wait to calm down and restart on next month. Huge difference in performance because of that. Ok this is 1 year need to test several more years.
  • #20
  • Jan 19, 2022 2:46pm Jan 19, 2022 2:46pm
why better bet on averaging with ranged markets - because markets 70% are in flat and 30% in trends. The flat is our friend.
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