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  • #1,207,361
  • Dec 21, 2021 3:56am Dec 21, 2021 3:56am
Quoting RCtrader
{quote} Easy for you to judge. But there were no personal computers at that time.
He opened courses etc. he was an "educator" and a fake one.
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  • #1,207,362
  • Dec 21, 2021 4:34am Dec 21, 2021 4:34am
Quoting tommydoginti
{quote} I think the Idea Generation is the major part of having a working system FOR YOU. But first you need some practical things to start with, then add in your observations to generate a reliable idea. just like driving, you need to know how to operate the car to start with, then your intuition and “sense” of the road condition come in play. Combine the both side of the skill set differentiates you, a bad driver, and pro racers. IMO, idea generation involves tech and fundamental analysis already, because it usually stems from what you see as...
Trading ideas are simply the scenarios you build as the blueprint for actual trading or before executing the trades in the stock market. For instance, when you see that a stock moves in a particular direction in a situation, you anticipate its high as well as low movements and the time frame.


Identify Market Opportunities

  1. Find something stupid that the market is doing.
  2. Try to understand why.
  3. Figure out the timing such that even if you are right, you aren't too early/late.
  4. Figure out your hedges so you don't blow up.
  5. Repeat steps 1-2 and make sure that it isn't you that will be doing something stupid.

  • #1,207,363
  • Dec 21, 2021 4:34am Dec 21, 2021 4:34am
Quoting Nordling00
{quote} W.D Gann died broke. That explains everything. Gann is the ancestor of the fake gurus and scammers
target around 11430 and then down to around 10960.

You will not go onto my holy list yet lad
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  • #1,207,364
  • Dec 21, 2021 4:52am Dec 21, 2021 4:52am
Quoting Nordling00
{quote} W.D Gann died broke. That explains everything. Gann is the ancestor of the fake gurus and scammers
This is what the brokerage industry says so everyone to stay inside the usual guidelines. Can you confirm he died broke? where as we can confirm Jesse Livermore commited suicide with a 10000$ sum. At least you try fundaments where which to me is absurd but i can give you some credit as i have never taken that path.
So Elliott too is fake i suppose as he did not die with a fortune

Have i told you that we donīt know how to read & write for the last 6000 years, its just babel we ve been taught? 2+2=5.

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  • #1,207,365
  • Dec 21, 2021 5:00am Dec 21, 2021 5:00am
Quoting Robinhood1
{quote} This is what the brokerage industry says so everyone to stay inside the usual guidelines. Can you confirm he died broke? where as we can confirm Jesse Livermore commited suicide with a 10000$ sum. At least you try fundaments where which to me is absurd but i can give you some credit as i have never taken that path. So Elliott too is fake i suppose as he did not die with a fortune Have i told you that we donīt know how to read & write for the last 6000 years, its just babel we ve been taught? 2+2=5. {image}
Was WD Gann a good trader?
William Delbert Gann is perhaps the most mysterious of all the famous traders in history. ... Gann's disciples claim he was one of the most successful stock and commodity traders who ever lived, while critics argue there's no concrete proof he ever made a great fortune from speculation.


What is absurd to me is you claiming not learning fundamentals, and trading only technical analysis, which is like a flipping a coin. But to each their own. You can't make a living and trade full time like that. No one has ever done it and no one ever will. There is no trader out there that is just making it because of technical analysis. Every successful trader investors they apply macro analysis first. If they say that they only use technicals and are successful THEY ARE LYING. They use macro analysis which is fundamental analysis.
  • #1,207,366
  • Dec 21, 2021 5:02am Dec 21, 2021 5:02am
Quoting Robinhood1
{quote} This is what the brokerage industry says so everyone to stay inside the usual guidelines. Can you confirm he died broke? where as we can confirm Jesse Livermore commited suicide with a 10000$ sum. At least you try fundaments where which to me is absurd but i can give you some credit as i have never taken that path. So Elliott too is fake i suppose as he did not die with a fortune Have i told you that we donīt know how to read & write for the last 6000 years, its just babel we ve been taught? 2+2=5. {image}
Fundamentals means the economy mate. And currencies are part of the economy. Trading without proper financial, economical knowledge is gambling to me mate.

Of course, everyone is free to do what they like. But i would rather listen winners like Paul Tudor Jones, Gerorge Soros instead of losers like Livermore, Elliott and Gann.
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  • #1,207,367
  • Dec 21, 2021 5:05am Dec 21, 2021 5:05am
Quoting Nordling00
{quote} Fundamentals means the economy mate. And currencies are part of the economy. Trading without proper financial, economical knowledge is gambling to me mate. Of course, everyone is free to do what they like. But i would rather listen winners like Paul Tudor Jones, Gerorge Soros instead of losers like Livermore, Elliott and Gann.
He won't get it. It is like talking to a wall.
  • #1,207,368
  • Dec 21, 2021 5:16am Dec 21, 2021 5:16am
Quoting Nordling00
{quote} Fundamentals means the economy mate. And currencies are part of the economy. Trading without proper financial, economical knowledge is gambling to me mate. Of course, everyone is free to do what they like. But i would rather listen winners like Paul Tudor Jones, Gerorge Soros instead of losers like Livermore, Elliott and Gann.
Why are you disturbed if i post about Gann. It does not bother me if you like soros and whoever? And this goes for all the stupid who i do not wish to come in contract with
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  • #1,207,369
  • Dec 21, 2021 5:17am Dec 21, 2021 5:17am
Quoting Robinhood1
{quote} You tell me once you witness the following. target around 11430 and then down to around 10960 and you are on my holy list now.
Saw others also squaring time. Any time constraints?
Air force
  • #1,207,370
  • Dec 21, 2021 5:18am Dec 21, 2021 5:18am
Quoting Robinhood1
{quote} Why are you disturbed if i post about Gann. It does not bother me if you like soros and whoever? And this goes for all the stupid who i do not wish to come in contract with
Because Gann strategy it does not work, it never worked. That is why we are disturbed, and worried about new traders, and we do not want them to get a false education for trading the one that you are advertising like Gann useless system.
  • #1,207,371
  • Dec 21, 2021 5:18am Dec 21, 2021 5:18am
Quoting Robinhood1
{quote} Why are you disturbed if i post about Gann. It does not bother me if you like soros and whoever? And this goes for all the stupid who i do not wish to come in contract with
Does your fundamental strategy feel threatened by gannīs?
POSTMASTER
  • #1,207,372
  • Dec 21, 2021 5:22am Dec 21, 2021 5:22am
Quoting Nordling00
{quote} Fundamentals means the economy mate. And currencies are part of the economy. Trading without proper financial, economical knowledge is gambling to me mate. Of course, everyone is free to do what they like. But i would rather listen winners like Paul Tudor Jones, Gerorge Soros instead of losers like Livermore, Elliott and Gann.
You know as i know that technology applied to Forex does not work because The busness has the best technology based on information. To wield fundaments is an easy way to dribble, you know what i mean and its ok fooling the mayority but you cannot fool me
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  • #1,207,373
  • Dec 21, 2021 5:24am Dec 21, 2021 5:24am
Tell me lad, how high is inflation going, why and when will it come down?
POSTMASTER
  • #1,207,374
  • Dec 21, 2021 5:25am Dec 21, 2021 5:25am
Quoting tommydoginti
just like driving, you need to know how to operate the car to start with, then your intuition and “sense” of the road condition come in play.
Indeed, and as I am sure many people will be able to relate to, Driving Instructors actually teach drivers to drive like fkn retards, a bit like most trading educators....

.....or to put it more charitably, if the trading educator isn't a complete charlatan, they will teach the trader to trade in a style that works (or worked for a period in the past, as so often is the case) for the trading educator.

To cut a long story short, whilst all the cliche's about managing risk and trader psychology all ring true to some extent, never underestimate the importance of actually knowing what to do.

For me personally, I was taught by a trader who only really knows how to value trade penny stocks (or Shit Coins) and who see's the market through that lens. Now to be fair to 'Brian Beamish', he did actually turn $500 into $ 1 million between 2014 and 2017, religiously trading his penny stock strategy, taking positions with $5 worth of shit coins......this guy must be a trading genius you say? Perhaps, but this guy would get fkn roasted trading Forex.....but he would never admit that to himself, or to his students......if you can trade one market, you can trade em all, he would lie.....I was fkn shit, for ages, until I stumbled across someone who liked to focus on actual supply and demand zones formed by price, other than arcane b.s. like fib ratios, M's n Ws, and indicator divergences (or even Gann), which all have their place of course, but only if/when the trader has already picked the right spot in the market.

I would hazard a guess, that JauntyLoon, (From Forfar....or Aberdeenshire perhaps) simply doesn't know what to do. because nobody has shown him what to do, and possibly he has been taught to do things, that quite simply just don't fucking work and he is the unfortunate position of having a lot of wonky templates for viewing the market installed in his head, which will inevitably produce self defeating market actions. No point in wheeling out all the cliches about psychology or risk management if someone doesn't have some kind of good functioning system in their heads....that comes waaaay first.
  • #1,207,375
  • Dec 21, 2021 5:26am Dec 21, 2021 5:26am
Quoting Robinhood1
Tell me lad, how high is inflation going, why and when will it come down?
If you cannot answer the 3, one will do
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  • #1,207,376
  • Dec 21, 2021 5:28am Dec 21, 2021 5:28am
What are we dealing with, what do we see? numbers, so we have to approach financial markets with matematics. Now if you see poetry ok approach that
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  • #1,207,377
  • Dec 21, 2021 5:32am Dec 21, 2021 5:32am
The 3 musketeers

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  • #1,207,378
  • Dec 21, 2021 5:33am Dec 21, 2021 5:33am
Quoting Robinhood1
{quote} Why are you disturbed if i post about Gann. It does not bother me if you like soros and whoever? And this goes for all the stupid who i do not wish to come in contract with
I am not disturbed, you are free to like any trader or guru you want. I just feel responsible and i want to inform newbies and other members right. I don't want anyone to lose their money on useless stuff.
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  • #1,207,379
  • Dec 21, 2021 5:34am Dec 21, 2021 5:34am
Quoting Robinhood1
The 3 musketeers {image}
You're still reading it "lad".
  • #1,207,380
  • Dec 21, 2021 5:35am Dec 21, 2021 5:35am
Quoting Robinhood1
{quote} Does your fundamental strategy feel threatened by gannīs?
No of course, big banks are on my side no problem.
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