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  • #1,206,341
  • Dec 12, 2021 9:52am Dec 12, 2021 9:52am
Quoting tonyb123
{quote} Quit trying to justify being an ass. You are not talking to newbie traders about a moving average. You blame the consumer of news when the "professionals" can't decide a course of action to take, but tell everyone to do this or that anyway. As for ever changing environment, b.s, these people have been studying this shit for 20 years plus; corona and masks. So enough of your despairing over trying to educate the ignorant. You very well may be a smart individual but your ass is showing.

not really. Please go read my previous posts I was not forcing you to believe what you want or not.

I think you are living your previous post, now you run are simply evading the topic and retreat to insults.

Anyway, my conversation with you was about the face mask topic raised by you when cutting into my discussion with BullBear. I already updated you the author of the review you cited is now for face mask. Our conversation should stop when you now not discussing the matter but becoming personal attack.
  • #1,206,342
  • Dec 12, 2021 9:58am Dec 12, 2021 9:58am
Quoting Winston Reed
{image} https://townhall.com/columnists/wayn...coast-n2600456

Hi Winston Reed,

The skeptical view of efficacy of vaccine to prevent getting infected, you share the same side as me and many medical experts.

IMExperience, it is the medical and healthcare worker who don’t believe in vaccines and/or population screening, they are the lowest population ratio participated in screening in HK.

But the only reason we didn’t believe in is it’s efficacy. I see many theories from the public that the concerns are the safety (eg graphene oxide, patent dated back to 2015, side effects, etc). Hope you get the difference in concern.
  • #1,206,343
  • Dec 12, 2021 10:10am Dec 12, 2021 10:10am
Quoting OnlineAddict
{quote} Did life change in HK after China took over, btw? For non-chinese and expats. Curious if its still a place worth looking into.
TBH life does not change much. But slowly and surely we see the adverse effect of implementing policies from China that can have great impact over HK’s economy. It can take another 10 yr or so to become obvious to the economy

as of political environment, it is much worse. Despite the pandemic, we have record high of people migrating out of HK in 2020 and 2021, much higher than 1997 handover period. For this round, the migrants are highly educated people (graduate and postgraduate). I myself is planning to move away to another country in APAC.

The commercial operation environment in HK is going downhill, so I would say be very careful and do your homework well before deciding whether or not to come as a foreigner worker.
  • #1,206,344
  • Dec 12, 2021 10:11am Dec 12, 2021 10:11am
Quoting tommydoginti
{quote} not really. Please go read my previous posts I was not forcing you to believe what you want or not. I think you are living your previous post, now you run are simply evading the topic and retreat to insults. Anyway, my conversation with you was about the face mask topic raised by you when cutting into my discussion with BullBear. I already updated you the author of the review you cited is now for face mask. Our conversation should stop when you now not discussing the matter but becoming personal attack.
Your post was the 3rd time you were harping about your woe's of the newbie and moving averages. It was a egotistical pat on the back. I did not evade any topic, I did not point out any one particular author, I simply posted the rest of the quote from the article, and stated that there were many more articles on the subject with the same conclusions.
The fact of the matter is that the respiratory aerosol particulate is small enough to pass through the mask, hence the request of the "pros " to double and triple mask. Regardless of the "condensation test".

This doctor explains it very well: https://rumble.com/vkwcb4-dr-dan-sto...d-nih-is-.html
MY GRID. Markets are NOT random.
  • #1,206,345
  • Dec 12, 2021 10:23am Dec 12, 2021 10:23am
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/

Conclusion

The existing scientific evidences challenge the safety and efficacy of wearing facemask as preventive intervention for COVID-19. The data suggest that both medical and non-medical facemasks are ineffective to block human-to-human transmission of viral and infectious disease such SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19, supporting against the usage of facemasks. Wearing facemasks has been demonstrated to have substantial adverse physiological and psychological effects. These include hypoxia, hypercapnia, shortness of breath, increased acidity and toxicity, activation of fear and stress response, rise in stress hormones, immunosuppression, fatigue, headaches, decline in cognitive performance, predisposition for viral and infectious illnesses, chronic stress, anxiety and depression. Long-term consequences of wearing facemask can cause health deterioration, developing and progression of chronic diseases and premature death. Governments, policy makers and health organizations should utilize prosper and scientific evidence-based approach with respect to wearing facemasks, when the latter is considered as preventive intervention for public health.
MY GRID. Markets are NOT random.
  • #1,206,346
  • Dec 12, 2021 10:25am Dec 12, 2021 10:25am
Quoting tonyb123
{quote} Your post was the 3rd time you were harping about your woe's of the newbie and moving averages. It was a egotistical pat on the back. I did not evade any topic, I did not point out any one particular author, I simply posted the rest of the quote from the article, and stated that there were many more articles on the subject with the same conclusions. The fact of the matter is that the respiratory aerosol particulate is small enough to pass through the mask, hence the request of the "pros " to double and triple mask. Regardless of the "condensation...

If you think a newbie obsessed with Moving Average a “moving” thing on chart is a very stupid and layman thought, I hope you can understand this is my feeling when seeing people keep on their obvious misconceptions when we are proficient in trading / medical sciences.

so I can take that you don’t believe in masks, that is fine. As I explained my opinion being believing in masks because of the change in perspective of the author we referred across time and other supportive evidence. TBH I take your point of opposition and read that review and really thank for providing more info for me, it helps my job anyways.

If you find that “moving average” example offensive, I believe you know the absurdity when standing at the side of knowing. Thanks
  • #1,206,347
  • Dec 12, 2021 10:27am Dec 12, 2021 10:27am
Quoting tonyb123
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/ Conclusion The existing scientific evidences challenge the safety and efficacy of wearing facemask as preventive intervention for COVID-19. The data suggest that both medical and non-medical facemasks are ineffective to block human-to-human transmission of viral and infectious disease such SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19, supporting against the usage of facemasks. Wearing facemasks has been demonstrated to have substantial adverse physiological and psychological effects. These include hypoxia,...
This paper is retracted. If you want to know how to be justified to be retracted, you can go to third party sites like retractionwatch. Retraction is as difficult as publishing in the decision making requirement.

A very famous and recent example is Haruko Obokata and her papers being retracted.

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  • #1,206,348
  • Dec 12, 2021 10:29am Dec 12, 2021 10:29am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} What TF do you use for direction? I am always curious about how other analyze the market.
I use the Daily, Weekly, and Monthly.
Learn from your mistakes and march on.
  • #1,206,349
  • Dec 12, 2021 10:29am Dec 12, 2021 10:29am
Quoting tommydoginti
{quote} TBH life does not change much. But slowly and surely we see the adverse effect of implementing policies from China that can have great impact over HK’s economy. It can take another 10 yr or so to become obvious to the economy as of political environment, it is much worse. Despite the pandemic, we have record high of people migrating out of HK in 2020 and 2021, much higher than 1997 handover period. For this round, the migrants are highly educated people (graduate and postgraduate). I myself is planning to move away to another country...
Thanks for the info. What country would be your ideal choice there?
Everyone can see the chart, but only a few can actually read it.
  • #1,206,350
  • Dec 12, 2021 10:32am Dec 12, 2021 10:32am
Quoting tommydoginti
{quote} If you think a newbie obsessed with Moving Average a “moving” thing on chart is a very stupid and layman thought, I hope you can understand this is my feeling when seeing people keep on their obvious misconceptions when we are proficient in trading / medical sciences. so I can take that you don’t believe in masks, that is fine. As I explained my opinion being believing in masks because of the change in perspective of the author we referred across time and other supportive evidence. TBH I take your point of opposition and read that review...
I do not take your moving average example offensive, It is a very good analogy when used once to describe your feelings. But when it is used 3 times discussing the same subject matter, it come off as a derogatory statement.
MY GRID. Markets are NOT random.
  • #1,206,351
  • Dec 12, 2021 10:34am Dec 12, 2021 10:34am
Quoting Mcbeaners
{quote} in all your thumbnails you look like a goldfish. i doubt this is helping your case. how about posting your trades realtime. that would help me believe in you.
Oooooh we have another with no pics....There is no case I'm making. It's an analysis that's it. Plain and simple. My analysis results speak for themselves. You have a choice to believe what you want to believe, I'm not here to convince you. How about you keep doing what you're doing and I'll keep doing what I do? Opinions are like a$$holes everyone has one. Yours don't matter in this case.

P.S. Happy Trading
  • #1,206,352
  • Dec 12, 2021 10:37am Dec 12, 2021 10:37am
Quoting tommydoginti
{quote} TBH life does not change much. But slowly and surely we see the adverse effect of implementing policies from China that can have great impact over HK’s economy. It can take another 10 yr or so to become obvious to the economy as of political environment, it is much worse. Despite the pandemic, we have record high of people migrating out of HK in 2020 and 2021, much higher than 1997 handover period. For this round, the migrants are highly educated people (graduate and postgraduate). I myself is planning to move away to another country in...
Overall these are the points regarding the current covid vaccine that cause me to strongly lean against them

1. They are causing unprecedented serious side effects. Amongst many are death, anaphylaxis, myocarditis, pericarditis, heart attacks, Guillain–Barré syndrome and autoimmune disorders and many more that are under-reported, not reported, censored and ignored by increasingly tyrannical governments across the globe.

2. The side effects are likely largely directly due to the very process that causes the vaccine to prevent serious illness in those who get it (mRNA spike protein). I think the dogma that the vaccine is efficacious is a temporary one. As the side effects, some short term and some long term, increasingly reveal themselves more and more of the public will not only resist future vaccination but bring litigation against officials like Fauci for covering it all up.

3. It is my belief and others that masking, shutdowns and the vaccines themselves have had zero affect in stopping or limiting the pandemic. It continues despite all that is being done. Biden made fun of Trump but now he has more Covid deaths on his hands than Biden. Everything he has done is for nought. It is also my belief that this particular vaccine is the cause of continued deaths from Covid as it prevents natural immunity and allows the virus to mutate. For now mutations are seemingly becoming less dangerous although more contagious.

4. Therapeutics such as Ivermectin, Hydroxychloroquine and others are absolutely effective in treating Covid infection especially if done so early and would have prevented millions of deaths and hospitalizations. Government and corporate entities that have prevented their usage have the blood of millions on their hands. In time I believe litigation will be pursued in this regard.
  • #1,206,353
  • Dec 12, 2021 10:39am Dec 12, 2021 10:39am
Quoting tommydoginti
{quote} This paper is retracted. If you want to know how to be justified to be retracted, you can go to third party sites like retractionwatch. Retraction is as difficult as publishing in the decision making requirement. A very famous and recent example is Haruko Obokata and her papers being retracted. {image}
Yes, I did see that, and I was looking at the reasons for the retraction.

This article has been retracted: please see Elsevier Policy on Article Withdrawal (https://www.elsevier.com/about/our-b...cle-withdrawal).
This article has been retracted at the request of the Editor-in-Chief.
Medical Hypotheses serves as a forum for innovative and often disruptive ideas in medicine and related biomedical sciences. However, our strict editorial policy is that we do not publish misleading or inaccurate citations to advance any hypotheses.
The Editorial Committee concluded that the author’s hypothesis is misleading on the following basis:
1. A broader review of existing scientific evidence clearly shows that approved masks with correct certification, and worn in compliance with guidelines, are an effective prevention of COVID-19 transmission.
2. The manuscript misquotes and selectively cites published papers. References #16, 17, 25 and 26 are all misquoted.
3. Table 1. Physiological and Psychological Effects of Wearing Facemask and Their Potential Health Consequences, generated by the author. All data in the table is unverified, and there are several speculative statements.
4. The author submitted that he is currently affiliated to Stanford University, and VA Palo Alto Health Care System. However, both institutions have confirmed that Dr Vainshelboim ended his connection with them in 2016.
A subsequent internal investigation by the Editor-in-Chief and the Publisher have determined that this article was externally peer reviewed but not with our customary standards of rigor prior to publication. The journal has re-designed its editorial and review workflow to ensure that this will not happen again in future.
The Editor-in-Chief and the Publisher would like to apologize to the readers of The Journal for difficulties this issue has caused.
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It does not seem that they had any strict policy in the first place:
This article was published in November 2020 but was not retracted until July 2021. That is in and of itself suspect.
The first bullet provides no reference to any study that supports this statement. Highly suspect
The rest of the reasons seem inconsequential to the subject matter to change the conclusions and are not referenced.
MY GRID. Markets are NOT random.
  • #1,206,354
  • Dec 12, 2021 11:03am Dec 12, 2021 11:03am
Quoting Winston Reed
{quote} Overall these are the points regarding the current covid vaccine that cause me to strongly lean against them 1. They are causing unprecedented serious side effects. Amongst many are death, anaphylaxis, myocarditis, pericarditis, heart attacks, Guillain–Barré syndrome and autoimmune disorders and many more that are under-reported, not reported, censored and ignored by increasingly tyrannical governments across the globe. 2. The side effects are likely largely directly due to the very process that causes the vaccine to prevent serious illness...

What the medical workers would agree with you on point 3 should they disbelieve vaccine: its efficacy.


mRNA liposome delivery treatment is not a new thing. It has been there for >10 years as clinical use. It is pretty interesting to see when the same method used to treat cancer is now a “very dangerous” thing. It is although not a surprise when it expands its application from treating 1000’s of people to theoretically whole population.

what I personally disbelieve and why many medical professionals do not believe in vaccine is mostly based on the phase 2 clinical trial report of the vaccines. For instance, well-known brand Vaccine showed to only elevate antibody response by 100%. In contrast, the common flu vaccine usually causes >500% antibody response to achieve ~50% actual immunity for an individual. The simple deduction is the vaccine may have no effect in prevention.

All I can is to analyse the matter in technical point of view. The political, operational and other matter also come in play in the actual impact of any preventative measure of the pandemic but it wouldn’t change the individual component.
  • #1,206,355
  • Dec 12, 2021 11:08am Dec 12, 2021 11:08am
Quoting tonyb123
{quote} Yes, I did see that, and I was looking at the reasons for the retraction. This article has been retracted: please see Elsevier Policy on Article Withdrawal (https://www.elsevier.com/about/our-b...cle-withdrawal). This article has been retracted at the request of the Editor-in-Chief. Medical Hypotheses serves as a forum for innovative and often disruptive ideas in medicine and related biomedical sciences. However, our strict editorial policy is that we do not publish misleading or inaccurate citations to advance...

Retraction does take >1 year.

one of the main requirement is multiple research groups, not associated with the author, to prove that his research findings are unreproducible. That is pretty difficult as requiring the labs to follow the exact experiments independently for multiple rounds. The resources needed to justify retraction is more stringent and takes longer time than publication.

* those groups involved in debunking the research usually publish their findings via fast responding journals, such as Nature communications, F1000, etc

you can see some actual stories on RetractionWatch. obokata’s retraction was so famous because it took 2 years with literally all stem cell researchers, as her findings were potentially a Nobel price


To put in simpler way, for a paper to be retracted, it is needed to have multiple groups following the original author’s study, down to every single line of the protocol, and present the findings.
At the end if a majority of results are against the original author’s, then it has the foundation to be retracted.

Like one newbie claimed that “moving average” is moving, then a bunch other traders put on the MA as indicated by that newbie (like which indicator, set file). If most of the other traders reported “MA is not a moving line”, then the conclusion is the newbie is wrong

FYI
  • #1,206,356
  • Dec 12, 2021 11:32am Dec 12, 2021 11:32am
Quoting tommydoginti
{quote} What the medical workers would agree with you on point 3 should they disbelieve vaccine: its efficacy. mRNA liposome delivery treatment is not a new thing. It has been there for >10 years as clinical use. It is pretty interesting to see when the same method used to treat cancer is now a “very dangerous” thing. It is although not a surprise when it expands its application from treating 1000’s of people to theoretically whole population. what I personally disbelieve and why many medical professionals do not believe in vaccine is mostly based...
Maybe vaccines before 2019 and after are diferent. The ones after are part of an agenda and seem biological weapons. By the way, GO medical patents are mainly from China and Chinese. I read somewhere that Bill gates´s patents are in chinese. If i find them i will post.
POSTMASTER
  • #1,206,357
  • Dec 12, 2021 11:43am Dec 12, 2021 11:43am
Quoting duve
{quote} Oooooh we have another with no pics....There is no case I'm making. It's an analysis that's it. Plain and simple. My analysis results speak for themselves. You have a choice to believe what you want to believe, I'm not here to convince you. How about you keep doing what you're doing and I'll keep doing what I do? Opinions are like a$$holes everyone has one. Yours don't matter in this case. P.S. Happy Trading
it all comes across like hype and self promotion. looks at me with me profits. that's all.

you are here to convince, otherwise you wouldn't post your vids. at least be honest with that.

and good luck to you.
In tea leaves we trust!
  • #1,206,358
  • Dec 12, 2021 12:04pm Dec 12, 2021 12:04pm
Quoting here2there
{quote} EURUSD is one of the worst pairs to be trading at this time.
eu is currently in a wedge and needs to break.

looking at the chart in just basic market structure, we are in long building setups. long periods up and then sudden (long liquidation drops). previously, (before dec), we had long periods of being down with sudden short covering rises.

a lot of the long building cummulative delta that was i seeng was in the previous contract, which was rolled over on friday. so it will be interesting to see in cd if the same long building continues.
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In tea leaves we trust!
  • #1,206,359
  • Dec 12, 2021 1:24pm Dec 12, 2021 1:24pm
Quoting Mcbeaners
{quote} eu is currently in a wedge and needs to break. looking at the chart in just basic market structure, we are in long building setups. long periods up and then sudden (long liquidation drops). previously, (before dec), we had long periods of being down with sudden short covering rises. a lot of the long building cummulative delta that was i seeng was in the previous contract, which was rolled over on friday. so it will be interesting to see in cd if the same long building continues. {image}
you really funny. In other words plagiarism. Go back and watch my analysis FF members and guest. This man tried to criticize me about my video analysis. Then follow-up and write analysis same as mine using different words. This guy is a
  • #1,206,360
  • Dec 12, 2021 1:31pm Dec 12, 2021 1:31pm
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