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  • #3,741
  • Dec 9, 2021 7:01pm Dec 9, 2021 7:01pm
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{quote} gcad set up result {image}
gcad long continuation.
breaker with round number.
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  • #3,742
  • Dec 9, 2021 8:43pm Dec 9, 2021 8:43pm
ga set up
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  • #3,743
  • Dec 9, 2021 10:47pm Dec 9, 2021 10:47pm
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{quote} when an order block is drawn. 3 things can happen to it. 1. order block 2. liquidity grab / stop hunt 3. breaker block. they are being shown on the chart. your case is classified under liquidity grab. {image}
Hi ITB thanks for sharing this information, because i mostly traped by liquidity stop hunt areas i always tried to figure it out, when is this moment will come so basicly i can skip this part, but i never find out, and mosly i traped without knowing it if that moment the price will start to go to another direction, can you help me to give more specific areas or times meybe if this moment will be come..
My main chart is 15M TF BTW,
Thanks
Sorry for my English, hope you are not confused
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  • #3,744
  • Dec 10, 2021 12:03am Dec 10, 2021 12:03am
Quoting Pram808
{quote} Hi ITB thanks for sharing this information, because i mostly traped by liquidity stop hunt areas i always tried to figure it out, when is this moment will come so basicly i can skip this part, but i never find out, and mosly i traped without knowing it if that moment the price will start to go to another direction, can you help me to give more specific areas or times meybe if this moment will be come.. My main chart is 15M TF BTW, Thanks Sorry for my English, hope you are not confused
few places you can wait for stop hunt, when price is around the following places during europe/new york sessions:
1. previous weeks high low
2. previous days high low
3. asia session high low
4. london session high low
5. new york session high low

with as many confluences of the following as possible:
1. round number
2. trend line
3. fib zone

finally, always go with trend direction to be safer.
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  • #3,745
  • Dec 10, 2021 12:30am Dec 10, 2021 12:30am
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{quote} few places you can wait for stop hunt, when price is around the following places during europe/new york sessions: 1. previous weeks high low 2. previous days high low 3. asia session high low 4. london session high low 5. new york session high low with as many confluences of the following as possible: 1. round number 2. trend line 3. fib zone finally, always go with trend direction to be safer.
Thank you for your knowledge i'll try to watch this spot
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  • #3,746
  • Edited 10:34am Dec 10, 2021 10:13am | Edited 10:34am
Nas NY 1m scalps.
Double bottom* rundown:

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  • #3,747
  • Dec 10, 2021 11:51am Dec 10, 2021 11:51am
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ga set up {image}
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{quote} ga add on {image}
what a relieve.
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  • #3,748
  • Dec 10, 2021 1:06pm Dec 10, 2021 1:06pm
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cut your losses short and let your profit run
  • #3,749
  • Edited 1:48pm Dec 10, 2021 1:17pm | Edited 1:48pm
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{quote} few places you can wait for stop hunt, when price is around the following places during europe/new york sessions: 1. previous weeks high low 2. previous days high low 3. asia session high low 4. london session high low 5. new york session high low with as many confluences of the following as possible: 1. round number 2. trend line 3. fib zone finally, always go with trend direction to be safer.
Quoting Pram808
{quote} Thank you for your knowledge i'll try to watch this spot

Really nice quality info!
If ITB agrees then I would like to add something that worked and completely changed my gameplan atleast.

- Ideally You wanna wait and enter where "other/retail" traders got stopped out, but not blindly immediately. Just like the first page here on this thread says -
"2. Wait of liquidity grab and BOS (break of structure)" and then use that area where liquidity got grabbed (OB/BB & FVG retest - inside the area where they had to manipulate the price in certain way/grab liquidity) for entry. Remember - You wanna get in when buyers/sellers or both got stopped out already but still participate with main order flow direction.

If trying to understand/practise something I think its best to know exactly why certain things happen, so:
keep in mind if "big players" wanna buy something X amount (assuming big orders) they first have to sell the same thing in order to create liquidity for themselves (so they can/are selling first to break significant key level just to buy it back up later - it triggers all the orders for breakout traders to start selling + buyers "sell" stops (SL) got triggered (If your buying something but this doesent work out and Your stop gets triggered - that means Your now selling it to someone along with breakout traders and most likely being part of "big players liquidity pool"). If they are doing it (buying/selling something big amount) immediately without grabbing liquidity/manipulating then the market would just move one way and average price for them is mostly too high/expensive - remember its a business like any other.
E.g if some "bank client" wants to exchange billions/millions of EUR TO USD (EURUSD) in with specific price range only, market will almost always come back to fill in these gaps and test that OB/BB (pick up these "clients" orders left on the table/order book) to then countinue to keep moving in certain direction.

Also make sure You are in right/significant HTF zone, I suggest looking minimum atleast 2-3 timeframes to be sure they all agree in (not neccessarily always in the same direction but just for the move Youre looking to make if you have exact ENTRY, SL & TP in mind). If you dont know exact TP where You plan to get out or if You are a new trader then its best for You to make all (HTF+LTF) timeframes agree with each other - trade with trend.
I personally avoid putting SL into equal highs/lows areas (where I can imagine most retail traders have their SL) unless thats some clear accumulation/distribution zone and someone is buying/selling/that exact level to the PIP/orders resting/level being defended - but thats topic for another time.

Im personally using and would also like to add/suggest keeping eye for liq. grabs on:
1) Daily open - also reading/paying attention to daily chart + daily candlestick patterns is very important and often underrated.
2) 4H candles - around open (mostly up to first hour, depends where key OBs & BBs are) & close.
3) NY stock exchange open (9:30 NY time big volume kicks in everyday - first "significant/big" move is almost always a fakeout/liquidity grab especially for indicies).

I find all these 3 very powerful when used in right conditions.
Thats atleast how i view the market, feel free to correct me if I made some mistake/typo.
Overall I think trading is skill like any other - practising and learning from Your mistakes are key.
All the info here on this thread - especially on the first page is priceless.

Goodluck!
  • #3,750
  • Dec 10, 2021 1:47pm Dec 10, 2021 1:47pm
Quoting Chrissk
{quote} {quote} Really nice quality info! If ITB agrees then I would like to add something that worked and completely changed my gameplan atleast. - Ideally You wanna wait and enter where "other/retail" traders got stopped out, but not blindly immediately. Just like the first page here on this thread says - "2. Wait of liquidity grab and BOS (break of structure)" and then use that area where liquidity got grabbed (OB/BB & FVG retest - inside the area where they had to manipulate the price in certain way/grab liquidity) for entry. Remember - You...
best thing i have read in long time
  • #3,751
  • Dec 10, 2021 2:05pm Dec 10, 2021 2:05pm
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  • #3,752
  • Dec 10, 2021 2:36pm Dec 10, 2021 2:36pm
Wow I have read couple pages out of this thread this place is a Goldmine of knowledge definitely place to be
  • #3,753
  • Dec 10, 2021 4:48pm Dec 10, 2021 4:48pm
Quoting Chrissk
{quote} {quote} Really nice quality info! If ITB agrees then I would like to add something that worked and completely changed my gameplan atleast. - Ideally You wanna wait and enter where "other/retail" traders got stopped out, but not blindly immediately. Just like the first page here on this thread says - "2. Wait of liquidity grab and BOS (break of structure)" and then use that area where liquidity got grabbed (OB/BB & FVG retest - inside the area where they had to manipulate the price in certain way/grab liquidity) for entry. Remember - You...
Once again thanks Chrissk to gave us valuable information I really appreciate
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  • #3,754
  • Dec 10, 2021 11:01pm Dec 10, 2021 11:01pm
Quoting Chrissk
{quote} {quote} Wait of liquidity grab and BOS (break of structure)" and then use that area where liquidity got grabbed (OB/BB & FVG retest - inside the area where they had to manipulate the price in certain way/grab liquidity) for entry
this is an illustration of having imbalance/fvg in the vicinity of the following:
1. order block
2. breaker block
3. liquidity grab

by the way, i am now showing my trade set up/live trade in another thread.
there are more participation and discussion on live trade there. Bilal is there too.
i still post the result here.
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  • #3,755
  • Dec 11, 2021 5:07pm Dec 11, 2021 5:07pm
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{quote} few places you can wait for stop hunt, when price is around the following places during europe/new york sessions: 1. previous weeks high low 2. previous days high low 3. asia session high low 4. london session high low 5. new york session high low with as many confluences of the following as possible: 1. round number 2. trend line 3. fib zone finally, always go with trend direction to be safer.

Great information Inthebox, I'll have them in mind when analysing and placing trades. Regarding your last pic, could you please explain the logic behind the first two H1 imbalances? I've mark them here. Thanks in advanced!

Best,

djsmig
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  • #3,756
  • Dec 12, 2021 3:39am Dec 12, 2021 3:39am
Quoting Chrissk
{quote} {quote} Im personally using and would also like to add/suggest keeping eye for liq. grabs on: 1) Daily open - also reading/paying attention to daily chart + daily candlestick patterns is very important and often underrated. 2) 4H candles - around open (mostly up to first hour, depends where key OBs & BBs are) & close. 3) NY stock exchange open (9:30 NY time big volume kicks in everyday - first "significant/big" move is almost always a fakeout/liquidity grab especially for indicies). I find all these 3 very powerful when used in right conditions....
Very good strategy.
  • #3,757
  • Dec 12, 2021 6:26am Dec 12, 2021 6:26am
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  • #3,758
  • Edited 12:42pm Dec 12, 2021 10:45am | Edited 12:42pm
Quoting djsmig
{quote} Great information Inthebox, I'll have them in mind when analysing and placing trades. Regarding your last pic, could you please explain the logic behind the first two H1 imbalances? I've mark them here. Thanks in advanced! Best, djsmig {image}
The picture ITB posted is 15M TF, but the imbalances/FVG-s (fairvaluegaps) are from 1H chart as written inside the chart,
thats why its very important to keep eye on atleast few different timeframes, so You get better idea what exactly price tries to achieve etc.

1H chart here:
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As You can see theres multiple pretty significant reactions/pullbacks for a nice trade opportunities while price "rebalances" inside FVG.
Doesent matter if Your bullish or bearish, if You choose something from these "significant/key areas" with other confluences combined then You should find a pretty nice trades/atleast some sort of scalping profit from these areas in lower timeframes while taking advantage of the pullback or countinuation of the "main trend".

Even if You are wrong about the "main trend" then You have most of the times chance still to put the trade into breakeven/take partials & reevaluate, but only if Your using key areas combined with other high probability confluences as stated in this thread & pictures.

Cheers!
  • #3,759
  • Dec 12, 2021 7:26pm Dec 12, 2021 7:26pm
Quoting djsmig
{quote} Great information Inthebox, I'll have them in mind when analysing and placing trades. Regarding your last pic, could you please explain the logic behind the first two H1 imbalances? I've mark them here. Thanks in advanced! Best, djsmig {image}
chrissk thanks for the reply.

dismig take a look in h1. it's mtf trading.
at times what you see in htf is not seen in ltf, what you see in ltf is not seen in htf.
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  • #3,760
  • Dec 13, 2021 4:02am Dec 13, 2021 4:02am
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gn add on {image}
gn long result.
ob with round number and trend line.
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