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  • #125,941
  • Sep 30, 2021 7:58am Sep 30, 2021 7:58am
Quoting kirinda
{quote} I guess you are right. I have misunderstood what BigE said. I have been thinking about this sentence by BigE before, and I guess I have never understood what he meant (I'm not so good en English). I have followed how he paint the vertical lines in his example and following that at candle close. Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thats what I had been thinking (don't forget I am trying to learn also) but as far as I understood bigE's posts if the green crosses at the beginning of a candle enough to be able to see it on the other side of the red line and also it is the same colour as you need it to be then you would go in (taking everything else into consideration like support/resistance etc.
  • #125,942
  • Sep 30, 2021 8:10am Sep 30, 2021 8:10am
Quoting kirinda
EURUSD 1H losing trade. TMS entry. Exit after 10-15 pips against my position like BigE: {image}

there was no A+++ setup to trade...

and you went for that H1 big candle without knowing what your H4 is doing.

you folks keep forgetting Post#261 the basics of Big E 5-Method PASR

without a trade setup the TDI signal useless.
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #125,943
  • Sep 30, 2021 8:13am Sep 30, 2021 8:13am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} there was no A+++ setup to trade... and you went for that H1 big candle without knowing what your H4 is doing. you folks keep forgetting Post#261 the basics of Big E 5-Method PASR without a trade setup the TDI signal useless.
emmanuel, are you talking about the current H4 candle or the close H4 candle?
  • #125,944
  • Sep 30, 2021 8:21am Sep 30, 2021 8:21am
Quoting hasib
{quote} Again another funny man comes here, Follow the picture carefully, recent post is GJ, other post is GU. First understand what your seeing than attack.
You failed to answer the questions. Here, I'll repeat them:
Quoting DrDave
When did you place the TP on that trade?
Did you move the TP as time passed?
To free Gazans of Hamas, use whatever it takes.
  • #125,945
  • Sep 30, 2021 8:26am Sep 30, 2021 8:26am
Quoting Tekkies
{quote} Exit like BigE > Yes Enter like BigE > No You still are entering at bar close Kirinda. Go back to previous posts we had. Reminder: #6... We Enter a trade when green crosses red on the TDI at the beginning of that candle Did you do that you would not have had that small loss.
I have tested a lot with candle close. Now I need to backtest/forwardtest with entry at candle open. Now the TDI got more important
because you have to trust it more, with candle close I'm enter late but I have information from the candle in addition to the TDI. It will
be exacting to see if entry at candle open perform better than entry at candle close.
  • #125,946
  • Sep 30, 2021 8:37am Sep 30, 2021 8:37am
Quoting kirinda
{quote} I guess you are right. I have misunderstood what BigE said. I have been thinking about this sentence by BigE before, and I guess I have never understood what he meant (I'm not so good in English). I have followed how he paint the vertical lines in his examples and following that at candle close. Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here, look at the time and look at TDI green cross red.
Post#25 TDI with chart refreshed.

Now when you check (you have mentioned you receive a alert with real time TDI) you enter at the beginning of that bar >Time will be 00:59:20 (something like that.)

When the picture were taken price was going down, when you come back a hour later you will see a wick with trade in profit.
For now it looks like TDI green angle above 2 (momentum) will be strong enough to make that red bar green and for you some pips.
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(If it was this easy!!!!)
  • #125,947
  • Sep 30, 2021 9:07am Sep 30, 2021 9:07am
Quoting kirinda
{quote} I have tested a lot with candle close. Now I need to backtest/forwardtest with entry at candle open. Now the TDI got more important because you have to trust it more, with candle close I'm enter late but I have information from the candle in addition to the TDI. It will be exacting to see if entry at candle open perform better than entry at candle close.
Post 125,698

Look at top chart vs bottom chart.

Top chart V-Lines are at bar open, Bottom chart V-Line are one candle late with it's own bar open.
(Previous bar close is new bar open.)

You have been trading TDI like the bottom chart.
  • #125,948
  • Sep 30, 2021 9:17am Sep 30, 2021 9:17am
Quoting kirinda
{quote} I have tested a lot with candle close. Now I need to backtest/forwardtest with entry at candle open. Now the TDI got more important because you have to trust it more, with candle close I'm enter late but I have information from the candle in addition to the TDI. It will be exacting to see if entry at candle open perform better than entry at candle close.
You still have information from the candle, just the candle that closed before not the one you have been looking at. You should find with backtesting that if the tdi has a good crossed angle at the open, then the previous candle was a good bullish or bearish candle.
  • #125,949
  • Sep 30, 2021 9:21am Sep 30, 2021 9:21am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} there was no A+++ setup to trade... and you went for that H1 big candle without knowing what your H4 is doing. you folks keep forgetting Post#261 the basics of Big E 5-Method PASR without a trade setup the TDI signal useless.
Not sure that I understand this one Emmanuel. If he had gone in at the beginning of the candle, what was wrong with the h4 chart?
  • #125,950
  • Sep 30, 2021 9:30am Sep 30, 2021 9:30am
spent an hour earlier in the day looking for petrol and finally managed to get £20 worth which is the limit at the local pump..I missed scaling some out at /near the high owing to my search for black gold...locked in at b/e and just have to wait now
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the cautious seldom err....C
  • #125,951
  • Sep 30, 2021 9:36am Sep 30, 2021 9:36am
Long NU
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the cautious seldom err....C
  • #125,952
  • Sep 30, 2021 10:50am Sep 30, 2021 10:50am
netting off, small loss
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  • #125,953
  • Sep 30, 2021 10:55am Sep 30, 2021 10:55am
Quoting pips29
spent an hour earlier in the day looking for petrol and finally managed to get £20 worth which is the limit at the local pump..I missed scaling some out at /near the high owing to my search for black gold...locked in at b/e and just have to wait now {image}
remainder was stopped out at b/e...took a short later on using M15
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the cautious seldom err....C
  • #125,954
  • Sep 30, 2021 11:15am Sep 30, 2021 11:15am
Quoting kirinda
{quote} I have tested a lot with candle close. Now I need to backtest/forwardtest with entry at candle open. Now the TDI got more important because you have to trust it more, with candle close I'm enter late but I have information from the candle in addition to the TDI. It will be exacting to see if entry at candle open perform better than entry at candle close.
Hi kirinda
You focus on developing trade management skills, by testing TMS you will go nowhere. If you use 8 ema it will work as good as tms. You can use 10 ema too.
by adding TDI, stoch, APB, you will just complicated your trading. Keep clean your chart you will see more important things in chart. Use adr,awr,amr that will be one of your edge. Focus on one pair. Learn that pair behavior.
remember in historical chart tms always looks good. I hope you got my point.
MA provides the market's current direction and strength.
  • #125,955
  • Edited 11:28am Sep 30, 2021 11:17am | Edited 11:28am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} good trade with risk management in place. many H4 TDI traders will not understand your trade... because they look for green to cross red with 12-2 angle .
Pips29 was right and his analysis so effective! Indeed his target of 122 was achieved and he prudently closed his trade just a little bit under this level. Now the pair is finally coming down as I said, we'll see how much, see pictures (my horizontal red and blue lines are computed averaged weekly range high and low, and not the real ones, thanks to Sonic!) :
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  • #125,956
  • Sep 30, 2021 11:21am Sep 30, 2021 11:21am
Quoting pips29
{quote} remainder was stopped out at b/e...took a short later on using M15 {image}
I wasn't even looking when my target was hit.I am watching my favourite programme on TV right now. It was fortunate as I would have scaled more out..in this case the remainder of 80% hit the target..
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  • #125,957
  • Sep 30, 2021 11:33am Sep 30, 2021 11:33am
Quoting hasib
{quote} Hi kirinda You focus on developing trade management skills, by testing TMS you will go nowhere. If you use 8 ema it will work as good as tms. You can use 10 ema too. by adding TDI, stoch, APB, you will just complicated your trading. Keep clean your chart you will see more important things in chart. Use adr,awr,amr that will be one of your edge. Focus on one pair. Learn that pair behavior. remember in historical chart tms always looks good. I hope you got my point.
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  • #125,958
  • Sep 30, 2021 11:48am Sep 30, 2021 11:48am
Just to give something back....
If any of you use the TMS_Angleator here is a "resource light" version. The versions I have tried take ages to load and hang MT4 for a couple of minutes.

This version does not load up the full bar history, but just enough bars to do the calculations.

It does not need TDI_RT_Clone it is based on, as the calculations are built in. It gives identical indications and values to the version I modified. It uses the default settings of period 13 RSI(Close Price) with signal SMA of 2 and trade signal SMA of 7. If you want to be able to set more settings or get the buffer values, I can do an updated version - please pm me.

Please accept my apologies for wasting your time if you have a similar version that has been modified like this.

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  • #125,959
  • Sep 30, 2021 11:55am Sep 30, 2021 11:55am
Quoting kirinda
{quote} After Tekkies pointing out this sentence from BigE: #6... We Enter a trade when green crosses red on the TDI at the beginning of that candle I understand now what you mean. I entering to late at close not open. I didn't read and understand everything with TMS. I have to investigate more about this because the way I enter after a moment candle is maybe a good way to do it.

Kirinda you know, RH developed an improve Trade management system with TMSR method. RH method is much better than Original TMS.
Still RH method fails in Slow and choppy market.
I have tested many variations of RH method. I have added many indicator with RH Method. it works some time very very well. other times it fails. But if you trade multiple pair with RH method in H4, you will make profit over long run. Because this method work well in clean trending market. There is always some market move well, that will recover your losses. If you want to improve RH method use 50 ema high low. trade with the directions of the 50 ema high low slope.

Look at this chart, 4 bad entry we can reduce using 50 ema high low. RH him self suggest using one ema with his method. I never found any one in TMSR use 50 ema high low, may be because people want to grab every single swing of the market.

Test it, I know it will give you much better results that old TMS.
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  • #125,960
  • Sep 30, 2021 12:01pm Sep 30, 2021 12:01pm
Quoting hasib
{quote} Kirinda you know, RH developed an improve Trade management system with TMSR method. RH method is much better than Original TMS. Still RH method fails in Slow and choppy market. I have tested many variations of RH method. I have added many indicator with RH Method. it works some time very very well. other times it fails. But if you trade multiple pair with RH method in H4, you will make profit over long run. Because this method work well in clean trending market. There is always some market move well, that will recover your losses. If you...
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