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  • #1,198,801
  • Aug 21, 2021 11:08am Aug 21, 2021 11:08am
Quoting JauntyLoon
{quote} Where is your proof that 'vaccinated' people do not develop and spread 'variants'? What a presumptuous little punk you are, to assume that a) your time is so highly valuable (I don't care how many times you think you've explained it elsewhere; it is not my job to read through all your posts, you aren't that important), b) that anyone who disagrees with you or even 'dares' to ask questions, has a 'lower IQ', and c) that YOU have all the answers. You, sir or madam (or whatever your preferred gender pronoun is), are the very definition of an...
I didn't say vaccines prevent virus from transmission. I said vaccinated bodies do not shelter virus for 14 days and do not give virus the time to evolve. So if everyone were to be vaccinated 2-3 times, there would be no more new variants.

Ok so you made me explain myself 3 times, i said i won't do it but couldn't stand. Being arrogant is better than being ignorant. I treat people the way they deserve. You will be on my ignore list from now on. Good luck.
You have to have an IQ higher than 90 to interact with this user.
  • #1,198,802
  • Aug 21, 2021 11:08am Aug 21, 2021 11:08am
This is a trading site. Let’s now get back to discussing trading. Everyone has differences of views.
  • #1,198,803
  • Aug 21, 2021 11:13am Aug 21, 2021 11:13am
Quoting Houtbay
This is a trading site. Let’s now get back to discussing trading. Everyone has differences of views.
Sorry mate, just couldn't help myself answering these people since this virus is a matter that affects everyone on this planet. Back to trading.
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  • #1,198,804
  • Aug 21, 2021 11:25am Aug 21, 2021 11:25am
Quoting Nordling00
{quote} I didn't say vaccines prevent virus from transmission. I said vaccinated bodies do not shelter virus for 14 days and do not give virus the time to evolve. So if everyone were to be vaccinated 2-3 times, there would be no more new variants.
Its not about vaccination, but about having the antibodies. Some get them from the vaccine, some from overcoming the virus on their own. There is no point for people who already have antibodies to get vaccinated. The problem is with people with a weak immune system, because they do not develop antibodies, not even with the vaccine.
Everyone can see the chart, but only a few can actually read it.
  • #1,198,805
  • Aug 21, 2021 11:31am Aug 21, 2021 11:31am
I am having a good laugh. There is a big difference between opinions and facts, and this is why governments have to create consistent policies around the process of prevention and treatment.
  • #1,198,806
  • Aug 21, 2021 11:37am Aug 21, 2021 11:37am
Sadly COVID is going to be around for a long time and in the process we are all equally affected in all ways from loss of income to mental health. People are frustrated, tired of being restricted through lockdowns which was displayed in Melbourne. We all have to act in the best interests for all.
  • #1,198,807
  • Aug 21, 2021 11:38am Aug 21, 2021 11:38am
The so called experts have been talking out both sided of their mouth for the last 15 months.
The vaccines do not prevent the spread of Covid as per the "experts". CONFIRMED
The masks unless they are n95 do not prevent the spread of Covid, and only have an effective lifespan of a few hours depending on the breathing rate of the person. CONFIRMED

As for my qualifications, I was a NCO in an elite US Army Airborne Unit and have extensive training in nuclear, biological and chemical warfare.

The masks that most people wear would not protect them from a fart, let alone a contagion.
The effectiveness of any protective measure depends on the procedures established to ensure sterilization and non transference.
If this were a deadly serious pandemic or rather they were serious, they would be using the guidelines established by the (US) armed forces in conjunction with the CDC, they are not.

The tests to confirm Covid are highly suspect.

I have 1st hand knowledge of this. My wife's friend was quarantined and did not leave her house for 2 months, she developed a problem with her ovaries and had to have surgery to remove one. She was admitted to the hospital and tested for Covid, the test came back positive.
She had no contact with anyone for those 2 months, yet she was positive. As a result she was kept in the the isolation ward for an extra 2 weeks. They refused to release her. Her hospital bill was outrageous.
Again, a virus with a survivable rate of 99% does not qualify as a pandemic.
MY GRID. Markets are NOT random.
  • #1,198,808
  • Aug 21, 2021 11:40am Aug 21, 2021 11:40am
Quoting OnlineAddict
{quote} Its not about vaccination, but about having the antibodies. Some get them from the vaccine, some from overcoming the virus on their own. There is no point for people who already have antibodies to get vaccinated. The problem is with people with a weak immune system, because they do not develop antibodies, not even with the vaccine.
from my understanding the vax doesn't create anitibodies, but spiked protein. so getting vax doesn't necessarily make you immune. hence why a lot of vax'd are gettging the delta variant. which begs the question what is the purpose of the vacine in the first place?

only the stupid imo are willing to subject themselves to a injection that is

1. completely radical in it's approach, never used before
2. rna vac's have been worked on for over 10years and all cmplete failure. why is this one different?
3. most imporantly, no one has any idea what the long term effects will be.

why take that risk? as a trader would you use a new system without paper trading it? of course not. why in gods name would you do that with your body?

and shame on those that say there needs to be forced injections, you need to get your head checked.
In tea leaves we trust!
  • #1,198,809
  • Aug 21, 2021 11:49am Aug 21, 2021 11:49am
What I find interesting is the wide spectrum of views, just like all the various trading approaches.
  • #1,198,810
  • Aug 21, 2021 11:53am Aug 21, 2021 11:53am
Quoting Mcbeaners
{quote} from my understanding the vax doesn't create anitibodies, but spiked protein.
I think the difference between getting natural antibodies and antibodies from a vaccine is that by getting covid as unvaccinated, you risk getting the disease, while the vaccine forces the body(immune system) to develop the antibodies without the real virus, so no disease risk during the process. But like I said...the body needs to create the protection against the virus, the vaccine is just a catalyst...and if the immune system is fucked up, how could it possibly do that?

But I might be all wrong. All I know is, I got covid more than once and barely felt anything...
Everyone can see the chart, but only a few can actually read it.
  • #1,198,811
  • Aug 21, 2021 12:07pm Aug 21, 2021 12:07pm
Quoting OnlineAddict
{quote} I think the difference between getting natural antibodies and antibodies from a vaccine is that by getting covid as unvaccinated, you risk getting the disease, while the vaccine forces the body(immune system) to develop the antibodies without the real virus, so no disease risk during the process. But like I said...the body needs to create the protection against the virus, the vaccine is just a catalyst...and if the immune system is fucked up, how could it possibly do that? But I might be all wrong. All I know is, I got covid more than once...
i would say more DD is required Online. imo.

i had something very early one (someone in my house was on an international flight from the Philippines. at the beginning.) was sick for 13 weeks but i have underlying conditions and it was finally resolved when i started sinus rinsing with salt water. it was not good. my wife was sick for 2 days in comparison. i will say i was never tested but never experienced anything like it and assume it was covid. that said, i was never afraid for my life. just so much coughing that i riped my chest muscles.
In tea leaves we trust!
  • #1,198,812
  • Aug 21, 2021 12:10pm Aug 21, 2021 12:10pm
Quoting Houtbay
I am having a good laugh. There is a big difference between opinions and facts, and this is why governments have to create consistent policies around the process of prevention and treatment.
and when the government is full of bs, then what do you do?
In tea leaves we trust!
  • #1,198,813
  • Aug 21, 2021 12:37pm Aug 21, 2021 12:37pm
Quoting Mcbeaners
{quote} and when the government is full of bs, then what do you do?

The real issue is that some people reject this as an option outright when we know that governments and MSM are the core purveyors of missinformation.
  • #1,198,814
  • Aug 21, 2021 12:44pm Aug 21, 2021 12:44pm
Quoting xtradex
{quote} The real issue is that some people reject this as an option outright when we know that governments and MSM are the core purveyors of missinformation.
indeed.

one has to remember that "conspiracy theorist" was a term created by the CIA. they, of course, are conspiracy practitioners.
In tea leaves we trust!
  • #1,198,815
  • Aug 21, 2021 1:07pm Aug 21, 2021 1:07pm
Quoting trumps
{quote} There is no such study in Australia on an approved and distributed vaccine. Vaccine studies in Australia, refer to vaccines under development and not yet approved. Very few, if any of the 7 vaccines being trialled here will get approved.

https://cihr-irsc.gc.ca/e/52424.html

https://www.canada.ca/en/health-cana...-biontech.html

When you actually read from a reliable source, everything is explained there. Everything else, like people on FF, facebook, twitter, instagram, youtube and so on... all those conspiracy theories are written by people who absolutely have no education and experience in health care field, science and viorology. If anything, those people could cause us harm, because they think they know, but they actually don't know. Just read from reliable sources, people that work in health care field, are people that do their job. Weather in health section or science, biology, they have education and that is what they do. They don't wake up one day and say, let's make up a virus and vaccines and just tell people whatever we want. Doesn't work like that. Don't be naive. We will be fine. Once all this goes away, economy gets better, everything will get back to normal as it was before. Pandemics happen every 10 to 15 years. It's nothing new. No reason to feel paranoid, or thinking that someone is after you.
  • #1,198,816
  • Aug 21, 2021 1:31pm Aug 21, 2021 1:31pm
Quoting Techanalyst
{quote} https://cihr-irsc.gc.ca/e/52424.html https://www.canada.ca/en/health-cana...-biontech.html When you actually read from a reliable source, everything is explained there. Everything else, like people on FF, facebook, twitter, instagram, youtube and so on... all those conspiracy theories are written by people who absolutely have no education and experience in health care field, science and viorology. If anything, those people could...

You and that 20 year old boy should do a remake of Dumb and Dumber. You wouldnt even have to act, just be yourselves.

What you just wrote is so unbelievably naive. You apparently believe that the government cares about your health more than they care about controling you. I am not getting into this with you again, there is no point. You are too simple to understand what is really going on here. It has nothing to do with the "pandemic".

Anyway, you can think what you want to think. Just dont try to enforce your ideas on people who disagree with you as its often the case with the leftist fascists. We are seeing it happen in real time.
  • #1,198,817
  • Aug 21, 2021 1:49pm Aug 21, 2021 1:49pm
Quoting xtradex
{quote} You and that 20 year old boy should do a remake of Dumb and Dumber. You wouldnt even have to act, just be yourselves. What you just wrote is so unbelievably naive. You apparently believe that the government cares about your health more than they care about controling you. I am not getting into this with you again, there is no point. You are too simple to understand what is really going on here. It has nothing to do with the "pandemic". Anyway, you can think what you want to think. Just dont try to enforce your ideas on people who disagree...
I did not say they care, but they do care for this virus not spread out quickly as it has been when it started. As for dumb and dumber, look in the mirror you useless conspiracist theorist who is stretching and talking absolute nonsense here, with no evidence and/or reliable source. Nothing is enforce on anyone, get out of your rat hole and go outside see the real world, look up reliable resources, read, educate yourself. Don't bring your paranoia on to someone else. But don't worry you will be vaccinated very soon, just like all of us. On the other topic, what is going on in the world there is economical issues and the whole world is paying for it. But it has to get worst before it gets better. But that is the other topic has nothing to do with the virus spreading. Now stop your idiotic nonsense you paranoid, and like I said get out of your rat hole. You have not provided a single reliable source to back up your idiotic statements. Just bunch of nonsense on this thread. Stop stretching it, stop writing your idiotic conspiracy theories, no one is falling for it and back to trading.
  • #1,198,818
  • Aug 21, 2021 1:53pm Aug 21, 2021 1:53pm
Quoting Techanalyst
{quote} https://cihr-irsc.gc.ca/e/52424.html https://www.canada.ca/en/health-cana...-biontech.html When you actually read from a reliable source, everything is explained there. Everything else, like people on FF, facebook, twitter, instagram, youtube and so on... all those conspiracy theories are written by people who absolutely have no education and experience in health care field, science and viorology. If anything, those people could...
In the good old USA every drug must come with a possible side effect warning, stating specifically what the possible side effects are.
The FDA is responsible for this but as of yet, have failed to release it. Along with that, the makers of the vaccine are pushing for legislation to exempt themselves from litigation from the harm caused by the vaccine. This is not a conspiracy, it is facts.
It is naive to believe that the government only wants whats best for you and that medical professionals are true professionals with no ulterior motives. ($$$$$$$)
When your university is subsidized by taxpayer money you are compromised.
When your research is funded in a form of a grant by the government, you are compromised.
I give you a taxpayer subsidy, grant for mega bucks and in return you give me a slice of the pie, after you receive it, with the promise I won't look your way if something questionable happens with your product.
MY GRID. Markets are NOT random.
  • #1,198,819
  • Aug 21, 2021 1:56pm Aug 21, 2021 1:56pm
Quoting tonyb123
{quote} In the good old USA every drug must come with a possible side effect warning, stating specifically what the possible side effects are. The FDA is responsible for this but as of yet, have failed to release it. Along with that, the makers of the vaccine are pushing for legislation to exempt themselves from litigation from the harm caused by the vaccine. This is not a conspiracy, it is facts. It is naive to believe that the government only wants whats best for you and that medical professionals are true professionals with no ulterior motives....
Wrong, every medication has a warning for possible side effects.

I won't be replying to the rest nonsense you wrote, again conspiracy theories, no reliable source, nothing.

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-heal...ffects.html#a2

Scroll down to side effects.
  • #1,198,820
  • Aug 21, 2021 2:00pm Aug 21, 2021 2:00pm
Quoting Techanalyst
{quote} Wrong, every medication has a warning for possible side effects. I won't be replying to the rest nonsense you wrote, again conspiracy theories, no reliable source, nothing. https://www.canada.ca/en/public-heal...ffects.html#a2 Scroll down to side effects.
That is not the complete list of side effects.
MY GRID. Markets are NOT random.
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