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  • #122,881
  • Jul 23, 2021 2:18am Jul 23, 2021 2:18am
Average Price Bar and Heiken Ashi

Its a very long story going back more than 10 years even before Big E started his trading.

There are also websites where there are more indepth studies and information.
http://stockcharts.com/school/doku.p...is:heikin_ashi

However, please note that in TMS 5-Method we use a version of HA known as the Synergy Average Price Bar or APB in short.
There is a slight difference in the way the APB close price is calculated compared to the original Heiken Ashi. This was done by Dean Malone to make it more suitable for forex trading.

But first learn about the Heiken Ashi

download these pdfs { here } and { here }

Have Fun!
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #122,882
  • Jul 23, 2021 2:19am Jul 23, 2021 2:19am
Quoting Tekkies
{quote} Post 15 Synergy_APB.ex4 does not require any dll to work. That indicator is compiled from a decompiled Synergy ABP.ex4 /* #import "as2_updater.dll" int isExeRunning(); int runAutoUpdater(); int isInstallerRunning(); int runAutoInstaller(); #import "Synergy.dll" string gGrab(string a0, string a1); #import */ You can find the decompile mq4 code right here in forexfactory....
This Price Action tool keeps you in the trade longer!


https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...6#post12901486

pay attention and listen at 2:20 time
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  • #122,883
  • Jul 23, 2021 2:20am Jul 23, 2021 2:20am
Quoting solorik
{quote} appreciated my bro but i mean the equation (calculations) to determine manually wether the candle is red or green thanks again for your help
@solorik

you were asking for dashboard for HA candles,

here is one uploaded by another member here

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...27#post5340027


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  • #122,884
  • Jul 23, 2021 2:28am Jul 23, 2021 2:28am
Quoting tommydoginti
{quote} Hi solorik, What is your reason behind knowing the equations of APB? If determining candle colour manually, #122,861 would work well. The APB equations are proprietary by the inventor, so although there are ways to find out the actual equations, I will not share here. trade well

" The APB equations are proprietary by the inventor,..."

this has been available in synergy group discussions websites since 2007 ... there are no secrets


Heiken Ashi for Forex trading

#property copyright "metaquotes"
#property indicator_chart_window
#property version "1.0"
#property indicator_buffers 4

#property indicator_label1 "HA Low/High"
#property indicator_type1 DRAW_HISTOGRAM
#property indicator_color1 clrRed
#property indicator_width1 1

#property indicator_label2 "HA High/Low"
#property indicator_type2 DRAW_HISTOGRAM
#property indicator_color2 clrRoyalBlue
#property indicator_width2 1

#property indicator_label3 "HA Down"
#property indicator_type3 DRAW_HISTOGRAM
#property indicator_color3 clrRed
#property indicator_width3 3

#property indicator_label4 "HA Up"
#property indicator_type4 DRAW_HISTOGRAM
#property indicator_color4 clrRoyalBlue
#property indicator_width4 3



input color Color_Bullish = clrRoyalBlue; // Bullish Color
input color Color_Bearish = clrRed; // Bearish Color



double
buff_HA_Open[], buff_HA_Close[],
buff_HA_HighLow[], buff_HA_LowHigh[]
;
int
gi_Chart_Scale = WRONG_VALUE
;



void OnDeinit(const int reason) {}



int OnInit() {
SetIndexBuffer(0, buff_HA_LowHigh); SetIndexEmptyValue(0, 0);
SetIndexBuffer(1, buff_HA_HighLow); SetIndexEmptyValue(1, 0);
SetIndexBuffer(2, buff_HA_Open); SetIndexEmptyValue(2, 0);
SetIndexBuffer(3, buff_HA_Close); SetIndexEmptyValue(3, 0);

SetIndexStyle(0, DRAW_HISTOGRAM, STYLE_SOLID, 1, Color_Bearish);
SetIndexStyle(1, DRAW_HISTOGRAM, STYLE_SOLID, 1, Color_Bullish);
f_Set_Buffers();
IndicatorDigits(_Digits);
IndicatorShortName("HeikenAshi(Fx)");
return(INIT_SUCCEEDED);
}



int OnCalculate(
const int rates_total,
const int prev_calculated,
const datetime &time[],
const double &open[],
const double &high[],
const double &low[],
const double &close[],
const long &TickVolume[],
const long &volume[],
const int &Spread[]
) {
f_Set_Buffers();
int
i_Bar = fmax(1, rates_total - prev_calculated + (prev_calculated > 0))
;
if(prev_calculated == 0) {
i_Bar--;
if(Open[i_Bar] < Close[i_Bar]) {
buff_HA_LowHigh[i_Bar] = Low[i_Bar];
buff_HA_HighLow[i_Bar] = High[i_Bar];
} else {
buff_HA_LowHigh[i_Bar] = High[i_Bar];
buff_HA_HighLow[i_Bar] = Low[i_Bar];
}
buff_HA_Open[i_Bar] = Open[i_Bar];
buff_HA_Close[i_Bar] = Close[i_Bar];
}
// ... note the recalculation of the HA Close below***
double
d_Open, d_Close0, d_Close, d_High, d_Low
;
i_Bar = fmin(rates_total - 2, i_Bar);
while(i_Bar-- > 0) {
d_Open = (buff_HA_Open[i_Bar + 1] + buff_HA_Close[i_Bar + 1]) / 2;
d_Close0 = (Open[i_Bar] + High[i_Bar] + Low[i_Bar] + Close[i_Bar]) / 4;
d_Close = (d_Close0 + Close[i_Bar]) / 2;
d_High = fmax(High[i_Bar], fmax(d_Open, d_Close));
d_Low = fmin(Low[i_Bar], fmin(d_Open, d_Close));
if(d_Open < d_Close) {
buff_HA_LowHigh[i_Bar] = d_Low;
buff_HA_HighLow[i_Bar] = d_High;
} else {
buff_HA_LowHigh[i_Bar] = d_High;
buff_HA_HighLow[i_Bar] = d_Low;
}
buff_HA_Open[i_Bar] = d_Open;
buff_HA_Close[i_Bar] = d_Close;
}
return(rates_total);
}


void OnChartEvent(
const int Event_ID,
const long& Event_Long,
const double& Event_Double,
const string& Event_String
) {
if(IsStopped()) return;
f_Set_Buffers();
}



void f_Set_Buffers() {
int i_Chart_Scale = int(ChartGetInteger(0, CHART_SCALE));
if(gi_Chart_Scale == i_Chart_Scale) return;
gi_Chart_Scale = i_Chart_Scale;
int i_Width = 0;
switch(i_Chart_Scale) {
case 0: i_Width = 1; break;
case 1: i_Width = 1; break;
case 2: i_Width = 2; break;
case 3: i_Width = 3; break;
case 4: i_Width = 6; break;
case 5: i_Width = 14; break;
}
SetIndexStyle(2, DRAW_HISTOGRAM, STYLE_SOLID, i_Width, Color_Bearish);
SetIndexStyle(3, DRAW_HISTOGRAM, STYLE_SOLID, i_Width, Color_Bullish);
ChartRedraw();
}
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #122,885
  • Jul 23, 2021 2:31am Jul 23, 2021 2:31am
Quoting eelfranz
If any of you know something BASIC about trading the forex... that's helped you... post it for the benefit of others.. We have many newer traders it can help.

If any of you know something BASIC about trading the forex... that's helped you... post it for the benefit of others.. We have many newer traders it can help.


The true spirit of Big E in starting this thread.
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #122,886
  • Jul 23, 2021 2:33am Jul 23, 2021 2:33am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} " The APB equations are proprietary by the inventor,..." this has been available in synergy group discussions websites since 2007 ... there are no secrets Heiken Ashi for Forex trading #property copyright "metaquotes" #property indicator_chart_window #property version "1.0" #property indicator_buffers 4 #property indicator_label1 "HA Low/High" #property indicator_type1 DRAW_HISTOGRAM #property indicator_color1 clrRed #property indicator_width1 1 #property indicator_label2 "HA High/Low" #property indicator_type2 DRAW_HISTOGRAM #property indicator_color2...

Emmanuel, you are WRONG again!
You don't even read...

We were talking about Synergy Pro APB, not HA

What you posted is the HA candle equations.

Fact check: look at the close price of bars on Synergy_Pro_ABP.mt4 on the TMS chart and do your calculation to validate.

Heiken Ashi for Forex trading

#property copyright "metaquotes"
#property indicator_chart_window
#property version "1.0"
#property indicator_buffers 4

#property indicator_label1 "HA Low/High"
  • #122,887
  • Jul 23, 2021 2:43am Jul 23, 2021 2:43am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} " The APB equations are proprietary by the inventor,..." this has been available in synergy group discussions websites since 2007 ... there are no secrets Heiken Ashi for Forex trading #property copyright "metaquotes" #property indicator_chart_window #property version "1.0" #property indicator_buffers 4 #property indicator_label1 "HA Low/High" #property indicator_type1 DRAW_HISTOGRAM #property indicator_color1 clrRed #property indicator_width1 1 #property indicator_label2 "HA High/Low" #property indicator_type2 DRAW_HISTOGRAM #property indicator_color2...

I see you finally learn to read MQL4 codes. Can old dogs learn new tricks?

Now you know the equations of HA candles from the HA candle indicator source code.

The next step is go through the source code of the APB as Tekkis suggested, and look for the equation of Close.

Then you will understand why APB reacts better than HA candles, and why HA candle change must be APB candle change, but not vice versa


Don't make the same newbie mistake.
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  • #122,888
  • Jul 23, 2021 2:48am Jul 23, 2021 2:48am
Quoting tommydoginti
{quote} Emmanuel, you are WRONG again! You don't even read... We were talking about Synergy Pro APB, not HA What you posted is the HA candle equations. Fact check: look at the close price of bars on Synergy_Pro_ABP.mt4 on the TMS chart and do your calculation to validate. Heiken Ashi for Forex trading #property copyright "metaquotes" #property indicator_chart_window #property version "1.0" #property indicator_buffers 4 #property indicator_label1 "HA Low/High"

LOL.

Synergy Pro APB candle are the same calculated as in the Synergy APB.

the Synergy APB is calculated with more weight on the Close price.



by adding a few filters does not change the way the Synergy APB - Open, High, Low and Close values.

the Open and Close of the APB candles are the same.

if you you know the difference why don't you just explain them here others to learn and to know too.

d_Open = (buff_HA_Open[i_Bar + 1] + buff_HA_Close[i_Bar + 1]) / 2;
d_Close0 = (Open[i_Bar] + High[i_Bar] + Low[i_Bar] + Close[i_Bar]) / 4;
d_Close = (d_Close0 + Close[i_Bar]) / 2;
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #122,889
  • Jul 23, 2021 2:50am Jul 23, 2021 2:50am
Quoting emmanuel7788
APB vs HeikenAshi now you can see the difference better ... the APB shows the pullback much better than the tradidional HA.... and the top down change happening ... the APb change colour and has a bigger body. {image}
LOL
Thanks, Vincent, for more laughs today!

No, the APB bars do not show the rally better than the HA bars.

The APB code gives extra weight to the close compared to HA, nothing more. This results in, as easily seen in the image, the APB close being closer to the real close value.

Most of the time, the APB and HA bars are the same color. The fact that the APB bars tend to have larger bodies than HA bars is of no practical value.

But keep on doing what you do best--adding clutter and confusion so that your followers continue to take the losing side of our winning trades.
To free Gazans of Hamas, use whatever it takes.
  • #122,890
  • Jul 23, 2021 2:51am Jul 23, 2021 2:51am
Quoting tommydoginti
{quote} I see you finally learn to read MQL4 codes. Can old dogs learn new tricks? Now you know the equations of HA candles from the HA candle indicator source code. The next step is go through the source code of the APB as Tekkis suggested, and look for the equation of Close. Then you will understand why APB reacts better than HA candles, and why HA candle change must be APB candle change, but not vice versa Don't make the same newbie mistake. {image}{image}

Understand the tools in BigE’s Trading Made Simple method.

Know the identity of TDI green red lines
know the equations of APB/HA candles

Study and learn TMS setups from the old charts, burn them into your memory. With the knowledge of the indicators, you will be able to strip them from the chart and trade like breeze.

Practice a bit then I t is simple to spot the entry is APB candle colour change #2 looking at traditional candlestick.

It allows traders to do more efficient analysis and also use phone so can trade TMS 5-method anywhere.

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  • #122,891
  • Jul 23, 2021 2:52am Jul 23, 2021 2:52am
Quoting tommydoginti
{quote} I see you finally learn to read MQL4 codes. Can old dogs learn new tricks? Now you know the equations of HA candles from the HA candle indicator source code. The next step is go through the source code of the APB as Tekkis suggested, and look for the equation of Close. Then you will understand why APB reacts better than HA candles, and why HA candle change must be APB candle change, but not vice versa Don't make the same newbie mistake. {image}{image}

LOL.

And you failed to learn that the TDI was changed to use the 2EMA on the RSI(13) to better respond to the price action.

you use the older version 2SMA which is slower than 2EMA.

basics of moving averages exponential vs simple.

study here:
http://forex-indicators.net/trend-in...es-ema-sma-wma

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Thanks for your trading losses which contributes to the winners here trading with small accounts.
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  • #122,892
  • Jul 23, 2021 2:53am Jul 23, 2021 2:53am
Quoting DrDave
{quote} LOL Thanks, Vincent, for more laughs today! The APB code gives extra weight to the close compared to HA, nothing more. This results in, as easily seen in the image, the APB close being closer to the real close value. Most of the time, the APB and HA bars are the same color. The fact that the APB bars tend to have larger bodies than HA bars is of no practical value. But keep on doing what you do best--adding clutter and confusion so that your followers continue to take the losing side of our winning trades.
Yes Dave,

From the source code, the traditional candlestick close value makes up a significant proportion to the APB candle close

HA is (OHLC)/4, so the weights are even.

the calculations are different
  • #122,893
  • Jul 23, 2021 2:59am Jul 23, 2021 2:59am
Quoting emmanuel7788
Average Price Bar and Heiken Ashi Its a very long story going back more than 10 years even before Big E started his trading. There are also websites where there are more indepth studies and information. http://stockcharts.com/school/doku.p...is:heikin_ashi However, please note that in TMS 5-Method we use a version of HA known as the Synergy Average Price Bar or APB in short. There is a slight difference in the way the APB close price is calculated compared...
This was done by Dean Malone to make it more suitable for forex trading.
LOL!
Keep the laughs coming, Vincent. It is one of the very few things that you do well.

Did you use your "mental" abilities to peek inside Dean's mind and find that information? Or maybe you contacted him and he gave you that bit of insight into his motives?

Please, please, keep doing what you're doing so everyone can get daily laughs as you make a fool of yourself over and over again.
To free Gazans of Hamas, use whatever it takes.
  • #122,894
  • Jul 23, 2021 3:02am Jul 23, 2021 3:02am
Quoting tommydoginti
{quote} Yes Dave, From the source code, the traditional candlestick close value makes up a significant proportion to the APB candle close HA is (OHLC)/4, so the weights are even. the calculations are different
HA Close
d_Close0 = (Open[i_Bar] + High[i_Bar] + Low[i_Bar] + Close[i_Bar]) / 4;



APB Close
d_Close = (d_Close0 + Close[i_Bar]) / 2;
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #122,895
  • Jul 23, 2021 3:06am Jul 23, 2021 3:06am
Quoting DrDave
{quote}This was done by Dean Malone to make it more suitable for forex trading. LOL! Keep the laughs coming, Vincent. It is one of the very few things that you do well. Did you use your "mental" abilities to peek inside Dean's mind and find that information? Or maybe you contacted him and he gave you that bit of insight into his motives? Please, please, keep doing what you're doing so everyone can get daily laughs as you make a fool of yourself over and over again.

@Davey-buy

Today is Friday. We know from your daily diarrhea on Friday is that your account is under-water. Its the same as with @Tekkies.

We know your voice , its the one that wear a red hat.

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Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #122,896
  • Jul 23, 2021 3:07am Jul 23, 2021 3:07am
Quoting tommydoginti
{quote} I see you finally learn to read MQL4 codes. Can old dogs learn new tricks? Now you know the equations of HA candles from the HA candle indicator source code. The next step is go through the source code of the APB as Tekkis suggested, and look for the equation of Close. Then you will understand why APB reacts better than HA candles, and why HA candle change must be APB candle change, but not vice versa Don't make the same newbie mistake. {image}{image}
Don't make the same newbie mistake.
NO, NO! Let Vincent continue making his newbie mistakes. It adds to his followers' mistakes and confusion, keeping them as fodder for our winning trades.
To free Gazans of Hamas, use whatever it takes.
  • #122,897
  • Jul 23, 2021 3:09am Jul 23, 2021 3:09am
Quoting tommydoginti
{quote} Emmanuel, you are WRONG again! You don't even read... We were talking about Synergy Pro APB, not HA What you posted is the HA candle equations. Fact check: look at the close price of bars on Synergy_Pro_ABP.mt4 on the TMS chart and do your calculation to validate. Heiken Ashi for Forex trading #property copyright "metaquotes" #property indicator_chart_window #property version "1.0" #property indicator_buffers 4 #property indicator_label1 "HA Low/High"
Why bother Tommy.
You should know by now, Emmanuel is never wrong about anything.
  • #122,898
  • Jul 23, 2021 3:13am Jul 23, 2021 3:13am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} "Most of the time, the APB and HA bars are the same color. " LOL. @Davey-boy What happens when the APB and HA candles are not of the same colour? Your TDA with IMT lose more money and the TMS winners here will earn more from your losses. Now, you know why RobinHood, OP of TradingMadeSimple(r) thread banned you from posting in his thread. You post garbage there and mislead others how RH uses both the APB and HA on his chart template. That's his little 'secret'. Trading Made Simple(r) https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...g-made-simpler...
Keep the clutter and confusion coming! More worthless posts for people to have to stumble over while looking for useful details of BigE's 5-method.

It's more contributions to your followers' confusion, keeping them on the losing side of our winning trades.
To free Gazans of Hamas, use whatever it takes.
  • #122,899
  • Jul 23, 2021 3:14am Jul 23, 2021 3:14am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} HA Close d_Close0 = (Open[i_Bar] + High[i_Bar] + Low[i_Bar] + Close[i_Bar]) / 4; APB Close d_Close = (d_Close0 + Close[i_Bar]) / 2;
Finally you got it right after 10 years of mistaking

Now, we are here to help you correcting your long-time misconceptions one by one to improve your miserable 10-pip TMS trades.

So far,

1) TDI repaint and how BigE used TDI as of #11
2) HA and APB
3) TMS not grid trading and averaging down method
4) Your candlestick pattern signals overlap with TDI cross/bounce signal, so is unnecessary
5) Equations of TDI green and red lines

Next one misconception would be BigE's setting of TDI green red lines for the Trading Made Simple 5-method.

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And you are not trading BigE's TMS 5-method using the correct TDI green red setting
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  • #122,900
  • Jul 23, 2021 3:19am Jul 23, 2021 3:19am
Quoting Tekkies
{quote} Why bother Tommy. You should know by now, Emmanuel is never wrong about anything.
"Emmanuel is never wrong about anything"

LOL.

Tekkies

I was wrong about you. Remember?

Many people were wrong about you. Do you know that?

I thought you knew how to trade Big E' Trading Made Simple. I was wrong.

I thought you knew Post#261 well. I was wrong too.

I though you knew price action well as in Post#647. Shit! I was wrong on that too.

And my conclusion has been proven right by you.

Tekkies spends too much on his TDI and Stochastics, now on his M15 & H1 V-lines gimmicks.
Tekkies did not spend enough time on Post#647 to learn Price Action, Support & Resistance and Market Consolidation.
Tekkies should spend more time on Money Management, Risk management for entries and exits.
Tekkies should learn to reduce his large number of BE trades, and How to Let Profits Run.
Tekkies will one day learn Post#2617 and he will realize that he can strip the TDI and Stochastics from his trading charts and he would then realize that taking trades would be a breeze and that the TDI is not in his WINNING EDGE equation.
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
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