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  • #118,181
  • Apr 25, 2021 5:01am Apr 25, 2021 5:01am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} Hi BigKev67 That's very good when you start at the beginning of this thread and read the OP's post. Important note: The OP trade with the early version of the TDI which he got from CompassFX. That version is the one ins Post#25. This TDI#25 version default is set to the RSI data Close price and also this TDI#25 version will paint the lines i.e. the RSI green price line at the Close of each bar/candle. Now the fact about this TDi#25 is that when you refresh your charts, the position of the lines would have repainted in old charts. When you...

Emmanuel,

I have a question regarding the repainting of the TDI. The RSI is a non repaint indicator, a moving average also don't repaint. Except the current candle which obviously move according to price movement, the only way for the rest of the line to move is if you don't set maximum fixed and minimum fixed (0 - 100) in the indicator .

The TDI doesn't repaint, this is my opinion, attached are pictures showing what i am talking about.
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  • #118,182
  • Apr 25, 2021 7:51am Apr 25, 2021 7:51am
Quoting neosqualls
{quote} Emmanuel, I have a question regarding the repainting of the TDI. The RSI is a non repaint indicator, a moving average also don't repaint. Except the current candle which obviously move according to price movement, the only way for the rest of the line to move is if you don't set maximum fixed and minimum fixed (0 - 100) in the indicator . The TDI doesn't repaint, this is my opinion, attached are pictures showing what i am talking about. {image} {image}
I think there is more to that leading to this indi being a “repaint” version.

A simple test is try to code the same script reporting the TDI values, one using iRSI and iMA functions, another using arrays and equations to do the calculation from OHLC (just C). Use a new candle bool (shared freely online) to “lock” the values into array. You will see the difference and may find the solution.
Next possible cause is the anchor candle function. But I only code EAs with arrays and raw equations, I haven’t used such functions. For visuals switching to another charting platform can be a viable solution.

This thread is fruitless after BigE’s last post. So much false information here. Imagine being wrong for 10 years and mock whoever pointing out the issues. Old dog cannot learn new tricks. For those who like to follow here, just one suggestion: go for the opposite direction for better chance. Good luck and trade well.
  • #118,183
  • Apr 25, 2021 9:55am Apr 25, 2021 9:55am
Quoting eelfranz
Is that possible? Yes. Years ago when I retired I was looking for something to do. I attended a free local presentation about trading FX. My mind said "We can do that and make money too... from the recliner"... so the torture began as happens to all newbies... I bought one sure fire program for $2,300... saving $1,700 off the normal $4,000 price. Man... I'm on my way I thought. It was so difficult to understand and trade that I never made a dime... in fact I lost most of the time. When I called the companyit was all Greek to me... I thought a lot...
New York Sunday April 25, 2021

it is 10 years on since Big E started this thread after making the jump from his old thread:

The SAGA of the TDI Indicator continues

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  • #118,184
  • Apr 25, 2021 9:59am Apr 25, 2021 9:59am
Quoting neosqualls
{quote} Emmanuel, I have a question regarding the repainting of the TDI. The RSI is a non repaint indicator, a moving average also don't repaint. Except the current candle which obviously move according to price movement, the only way for the rest of the line to move is if you don't set maximum fixed and minimum fixed (0 - 100) in the indicator . The TDI doesn't repaint, this is my opinion, attached are pictures showing what i am talking about. {image} {image}




I know a very simple solution which I will post this week when the market is open again.

Stay tuned!
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  • #118,185
  • Apr 25, 2021 10:09am Apr 25, 2021 10:09am
Quoting neosqualls
{quote} Emmanuel, I have a question regarding the repainting of the TDI. The RSI is a non repaint indicator, a moving average also don't repaint. Except the current candle which obviously move according to price movement, the only way for the rest of the line to move is if you don't set maximum fixed and minimum fixed (0 - 100) in the indicator . The TDI doesn't repaint, this is my opinion, attached are pictures showing what i am talking about. {image} {image}
Ofcourse TDI repaints, almost all indis repaint according to PA. When PA moves thats when the indis will show.
So thats why made PA king.
If we follow PA then we will know more or less know how TDI will look. so during the candle formation TDI will repaint but you have to analyze the charts and figure out where PA will move before it moves.
This is where the basics come in play :
1. divergances
2. S&R areas
3. Fibb levels
4. wave analysis (higher lows and lower highs)
5.V.V..V
If you analyzed the charts correctly you will see that PA moves in your direction and then TDI will confirm that as well. Thats why knowing basics play a big part to increasing your probability.
  • #118,186
  • Apr 25, 2021 10:15am Apr 25, 2021 10:15am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} New York Sunday April 25, 2021 it is 10 years on since Big E started this thread after making the jump from his old thread: The SAGA of the TDI Indicator continues https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDuzcUStPgQ&t=949s
I told the same in a comment to VP, set the minimum and maximum, if you don't you have a dynamic range, so the lines move because the scale change
  • #118,187
  • Apr 25, 2021 10:42am Apr 25, 2021 10:42am
Quoting mistdraw28
{quote} Ofcourse TDI repaints, almost all indis repaint according to PA. When PA moves thats when the indis will show. So thats why made PA king. If we follow PA then we will know more or less know how TDI will look. so during the candle formation TDI will repaint but you have to analyze the charts and figure out where PA will move before it moves. This is where the basics come in play : 1. divergances 2. S&R areas 3. Fibb levels 4. wave analysis (higher lows and lower highs) 5.V.V..V If you analyzed the charts correctly you will see that PA moves...
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...es-rsi-repaint

but just so you know, in MT4, iRSI yields values slightly different than the actual RSI equation with same settings. iMA also is slightly different than the MA calculated with scripted equations. I found that when the built-in MA of MT4 sometimes crossed at different candles with EA coding the same MA using iMA but identical when I scripted the equations instead. However whether it is the cause of “repainting” I never use MT4 indicators.

So hence in MT4 EAs for auto trade, I wrote the equations instead of using the i__ functions. TDI and other non repainting indicators based on closed candles do not have the “repainting” issue in TradingView, for instance.

I do agree on your view that TMS trade opportunities can be anticipated with proper PA analysis.
  • #118,188
  • Apr 25, 2021 6:14pm Apr 25, 2021 6:14pm
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} Hi BigKev67 That's very good when you start at the beginning of this thread and read the OP's post. Important note: The OP trade with the early version of the TDI which he got from CompassFX. That version is the one ins Post#25. This TDI#25 version default is set to the RSI data Close price and also this TDI#25 version will paint the lines i.e. the RSI green price line at the Close of each bar/candle. Now the fact about this TDi#25 is that when you refresh your charts, the position of the lines would have repainted in old charts. When you...
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Week 17 New York Sunday 7pm market open 2 hrs ago

here is the update chart EURAUD H4 with indicator refreshed after the weekend shutdown.

you can compare the chart above and this below,

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note how many bars/candles being refreshed and the custom indicators 'repainted' .
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  • #118,189
  • Apr 26, 2021 12:03am Apr 26, 2021 12:03am
Quoting emmanuel7788
Post#11
Quoting eelfranz
... I prefer to trade the 4hr charts at night. My broker posts new 4 hr candles at 10pm my time (Pacific), 2am my time and 6am my time. My page when I open up my charts has 8 open charts. I just glance at the TDI for set ups when the new candle opens... If I see a set up... green just crossing red I'll take the trade, turn off the puter and go to bed. Four hours later (1:50am) my alarm goes off for the new candles and I take a peek... if I see a new set up I'll enter and go back to bed with the last alarm at 5:50am
...
200 to 500 pips in a week!!! seriously

Lets do little math
500*4= 2000 pips in a month.
2000*12= 24000 pips in a year.

Best of luck to all TMS follower.
I hope You will get it, if not today, tomorrow.
MA provides the market's current direction and strength.
  • #118,190
  • Apr 26, 2021 1:39am Apr 26, 2021 1:39am
Quoting hasib
{quote}{quote} 200 to 500 pips in a week!!! seriously Lets do little math 500*4= 2000 pips in a month. 2000*12= 24000 pips in a year. Best of luck to all TMS follower. I hope You will get it, if not today, tomorrow.

and that was the thread's OP Big E back in Apr 2011.

and that was possible back then with his single entry single exit trading 2 to 4 full standard lots.

his training charts impressed many people.

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how to trade and make that possible today in view of recent market conditions and volatility?
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  • #118,191
  • Apr 26, 2021 1:41am Apr 26, 2021 1:41am
GJ Apr25 M5 TDI examples

- with two different TDI versions on the same chart, it is easy to compare in realtime live market price action data.

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  • #118,192
  • Apr 26, 2021 2:06am Apr 26, 2021 2:06am
Quoting emmanuel7788
GJ Apr25 M5 TDI examples - with two different TDI versions on the same chart, it is easy to compare in realtime live market price action data. {image}
Pls help on post 118181
  • #118,193
  • Apr 26, 2021 2:54am Apr 26, 2021 2:54am
Quoting emmanuel7788
GJ Apr25 M5 TDI examples - with two different TDI versions on the same chart, it is easy to compare in realtime live market price action data. {image}

GI Apr26 M5 update LO H1 closing soon

- two different TDIs one show better slope

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  • #118,194
  • Apr 26, 2021 3:16am Apr 26, 2021 3:16am
Gosh. If a trader is determined and trades a tool for years, but not knowing the properties of the tool used, the intelligence is outer-worldly... low.
Plus spreading false info leads others to lose over all the years.

As per Hasib, the stupids cannot think or figure out the situation... but some questions to think about may shed light.

1. which is the correct value? Or under which condition the indi gives correct values?
1b. Why wouldn’t BigE complained about it and what was the way he trade and use the indi so that no such issue reported?

2. Which variable(s) is intended to be used for calculation in the indi? Close price of what?
2b. What is the common solution(s) used that proved to successfully overcome the issue? Where to find them?

Realisation of the issue will definitely improve precision and learn faster. Don’t simply follow the stupid, for that I agree with Hasib.
The old posts by BigE were valid for reference. Good luck everyone
  • #118,195
  • Apr 26, 2021 3:41am Apr 26, 2021 3:41am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} GI Apr26 M5 update LO H1 closing soon - two different TDIs one show better slope {image}

GJ Apr26 M15 TDI compare

- one version TDI lags the other ... Big E was right which version he used and made money with.

- newbie will never learn from reading Big E' posts ... no matter how many times they read his posts.

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  • #118,196
  • Apr 26, 2021 3:46am Apr 26, 2021 3:46am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} GJ Apr26 M15 TDI compare - one version TDI lags the other ... Big E was right which version he used and made money with. - newbie will never learn from reading Big E' posts ... no matter how many times they read his posts. {image}

Now lets take a quick look at H1

GJ Apr 26 H1 LO2 with 15min 29sec to CLOSE....

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  • #118,197
  • Apr 26, 2021 3:58am Apr 26, 2021 3:58am
Quoting Slingshots1
{quote} Keep growing stronger here Emman and thanks for all your unique contribution here,please is there any tdi here that has alert input signals when the cross over for the entry candle occurs? And the candle change signal arrow for the synergy I am not receiving any alert even though I added it to the candle since there will be no signal if it's not added. Another issue is, can a 3 horizontal lines be added on the chart with the first horizontal line marking the bottom of the first candle which is the entry candle as STOP LOSS....the second...
Quoting Slingshots1
{quote} Pls help on post 118181

Keep growing stronger here Emman and thanks for all your unique contribution here,


please is there any tdi here that has alert input signals when the cross over for the entry candle occurs?
Yes.

And the candle change signal arrow for the synergy I am not receiving any alert even though I added it to the candle since there will be no signal if it's not added.
Which Traders_Dynamic_Index are you using?

Another issue is, can a 3 horizontal lines be added on the chart with the first horizontal line marking the bottom of the first candle which is the entry candle as STOP LOSS....the second line marking the close of the first candle as ENTRY,and the 3rd line marking the TAKE PROFIT of at least 20pips..

Yes. With MT4 , it is can be done with either a script or an indicator and even an expert advisor would do the task.
Honesty is a very expensive gift. You wont find it in cheap people.WBuffett
  • #118,198
  • Apr 26, 2021 4:16am Apr 26, 2021 4:16am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} GJ Apr26 M15 TDI compare - one version TDI lags the other ... Big E was right which version he used and made money with. - newbie will never learn from reading Big E' posts ... no matter how many times they read his posts. {image}
Consider a goodwill of helping you in your trading.

You pointed out the issue, but can never give the solution in all these years, because you do not possess the knowledge to identify and solve the problem.

there is a major difference between your so-called “BigE’s way” and how BigE traded PRACTICALLY. For instance, I can tell how long you have opened the chart and kept it running from your screenshots. Also the root cause of why you spotted the coding flaw but not by BigE.

I suggest you to stare at the chart, verify the values, and observe under what condition the TDI RED GREEN start giving wrong values and how the PA leads to the value bigger or smaller than the actual value. You are an experienced trader and retired, hope you live up to your age and treat your own problem with maturity, not just some smack talk that affects no one.
  • #118,199
  • Apr 26, 2021 4:20am Apr 26, 2021 4:20am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} Now lets take a quick look at H1 GJ Apr 26 H1 LO2 with 15min 29sec to CLOSE.... {image}
GJ Apr26 H1 LO3

- look at the H1 price action and the TDI that gives the best angle, which TDI did the OP Big E used?

- now, do you know why he mentioned he did not refresh his charts at certain times when he was trading.
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  • #118,200
  • Apr 26, 2021 4:24am Apr 26, 2021 4:24am
Quoting tommydoginti
{quote} Consider a goodwill of helping you in your trading. You pointed out the issue, but can never give the solution in all these years, because you do not possess the knowledge to identify and solve the problem. there is a major difference between your so-called “BigE’s way” and how BigE traded PRACTICALLY. For instance, I can tell how long you have opened the chart and kept it running from your screenshots. Also the root cause of why you spotted the coding flaw but not by BigE. I suggest you to stare at the chart, verify the values, and observe...

hey @tommydogie

you are one very unhappy person in this thread. Happiness is an Advantage

go get yourself a life and learn trading from your dad who is retired and trade HKI for his retirement expenses.

you are too new a newbie to fully understand the OP Big E. You still have plenty of reading and learning to do in this thread.

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