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  • #5,281
  • Apr 10, 2021 9:16am Apr 10, 2021 9:16am
Quoting OAPDave
We now have a few different ways that levels are Calculated Now think as Parisboy mentions we ought to call them Support & Resistance ? {image} {image} {image} {image} {image} {image} {image} {image}

Hi dave ,

i have posted few years ago , Quantum Donchian Channel with 1/8 Gann levels :

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...61#post9681461

I think it can help you .




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  • #5,282
  • Edited 4:41pm Apr 10, 2021 11:28am | Edited 4:41pm
Quoting acetrader
{quote} Dave probably a wise decision my friend as I to have never found much value in those I purchased. The value is for the seller when it is sold, but just maybe I never devoted enough time to the use of the product before I set it aside. Those charts you posted seem to be almost identical with respect to what the indicators are showing. Sohocool has outstanding coding skills. Never use the Donchian indicator. Going back to the software topic...…look at what Parisboy put together with readily avail indicators & at no cost other than the time...

As far as I can remember it exists a Trial Version. of Sentient Trader

https://sentienttrader.com/sentient-trader-trial/

IMHO the best thing to do, if you are a rookie, you need to familiarize yourself on this thread with Hurst's system, tools and concepts

When you judge yourself ready you can use the trial version of Sentient Trader to extract the maximum of benefits of using ST. Then you can decide to buy it or not
  • #5,283
  • Edited 1:11pm Apr 10, 2021 12:06pm | Edited 1:11pm
Quoting acetrader
{quote} I have interest in what you are sharing as it seems connect to the topics of this thread. Mathematics is all over trading & most everything else in life. Each financial instrument has its own vibration rate as our good friend Gann spoke about this & the marketers sell a book about this if my memory serves me correctly. Whatever your doing to get the levels you show if it is accurate, or near accurate on a regular basis you may just be on to something. I have an interest in seeing more of your charts to compare to what I do. I have noticed...

Thank you for your support Acetrader
It has shown that it's accurate for 3-4 weeks. But I need to check it more. I feel like on to something as you said. My main concern is my method as it doesn't need anything. Not MM, or any other indicator. But it's based on mathematical calculation. I am improving it day by day. When I look at the chart, I look at it as there is a conspiracy. LOL
Take a look at the chart.
What do you think about? I think you have your own way. Maybe similar with mine
Thank you again. BIG RESPECT
This is for bigger TF. But it can be calculated from smaller timeframes for their next smaller move
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  • #5,284
  • Apr 10, 2021 1:41pm Apr 10, 2021 1:41pm
Quoting Ihlas
{quote} Thank you for your support Acetrader It has shown that it's accurate for 3-4 weeks. But I need to check it more. I feel like on to something as you said. My main concern is my method as it doesn't need anything. Not MM, or any other indicator. But it's based on mathematical calculation. I am improving it day by day. When I look at the chart, I look at it as there is a conspiracy. LOL Take a look at the chart. What do you think about? I think you have your own way. Maybe similar with mine Thank you again. BIG RESPECT...
Unfortunately, possibly due to my old age I see no mathematical calculation on your chart or under your chart
  • #5,285
  • Apr 10, 2021 1:45pm Apr 10, 2021 1:45pm
I see nothing !
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  • #5,286
  • Edited 2:43pm Apr 10, 2021 2:17pm | Edited 2:43pm
Quoting parisboy
I see nothing ! {image}

I am glad that you took time to watch my profile and screenshot it. I appreciate your hard work. Watch everytime when you are on FF. I am not against if you ask me. I won't charge anything from you. So feel free to look. Only for you.
BTW if you are old, I will respect you because of your age. But your behaviour is a dime.
And I haven't asked anything from you. Better talking to stone.
Do your research and you will get there. But due to your old age (your words), I don't think so.
You want Mathematical Calculation:
1+1=2
1*1=1
1-1=0
1/1=?
Showing your trades changes something? Don't think that you are greater.
  • #5,287
  • Apr 10, 2021 2:49pm Apr 10, 2021 2:49pm
From David Hickson the creator of Sentient Trader

Hurst Cycles market updates

Hello! I have just posted a new market update video:

  1. Last week I discussed peaks in stock markets, and the markets continued up towards those peaks this week.
  2. In this week's video I discuss using cycle shapes to estimate WHEN those peaks could form.
  3. Because peaks are complicated, we can project an expectation of "by when" as opposed to "exactly when".
  4. The video is only 10 minutes long!

Here it is:

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  • #5,288
  • Apr 10, 2021 4:46pm Apr 10, 2021 4:46pm
Quoting parisboy
{quote} As far as I can remember it exists a Trial Version. of Sentient Trader https://sentienttrader.com/sentient-trader-trial/ IMHO the best thing to do, if you are a rookie, you need to familiarize yourself on this thread with Hurst's sstem, tools and concepts When you judge yourself ready you can use the trial version of Sentient Trader to extract the maximum of benefits of using ST. Then you can decide to buy it or not

Parisboy,

My dear friend first off I am far from rookie status if that phrase was directed to me.

Second off thank you for the heads up about Hickson & company, but I wouldn't drop a dime on that product or any others must less many Benjamin's.

I have the utmost respect for you & the methods, concepts & the general info pertaining to those you share, but maybe be a bit easier with the labelling of those posting here.

After all not everyone has reached that colorful diamond status. Some are still in the process of developing their own ball.

No disrespect to you Parisboy is intended by this post. Just clearing the air a bit as we say in the USA.
  • #5,289
  • Apr 10, 2021 5:03pm Apr 10, 2021 5:03pm
Quoting acetrader
{quote} Parisboy, My dear friend first off I am far from rookie status if that phrase was directed to me. Second off thank you for the heads up about Hickson & company, but I wouldn't drop a dime on that product or any others must less many Benjamin's. I have the utmost respect for you & the methods, concepts & the general info pertaining to those you share, but maybe be a bit easier with the labelling of those posting here. After all not everyone has reached that colorful diamond status. Some are still in the process of developing their own ball....
ace it was a general answer about Sentient trader usage.

by "rookie " I mean rookie in Hurst's tools and methodology practice

One can be an experienced trader and having no experience in cyclic analysis and much more in Hurst's trading methodology which is the general situation IMHO . I know of no forum, none free thread on the subject outside mine. The reason seems that mastering the subject needs to much investment in time for the huge majority of the people who could be interested.
  • #5,290
  • Apr 10, 2021 5:13pm Apr 10, 2021 5:13pm
[quote=parisboy;13489816]{quote} ace it was a general answer about Sentient trader usage. by "rookie " I mean rookie in Hurst's tools and methodology practice One can be an experienced trader and having no experience in cyclic analysis and much more in Hurst's trading methodology which is the general situation IMHO . I know of no forum, none free thread on the subject outside mine. The reason seems that mastering the subject needs to much investment in time for the huge majority of the people who could be interested.[/quote

I understand & totally agree. I know I will never master this, but everyday I learn more. After many years in this business I am still learning.

Thank you.
  • #5,291
  • Apr 10, 2021 5:15pm Apr 10, 2021 5:15pm
Quoting Ihlas
{quote} Thank you for your support Acetrader It has shown that it's accurate for 3-4 weeks. But I need to check it more. I feel like on to something as you said. My main concern is my method as it doesn't need anything. Not MM, or any other indicator. But it's based on mathematical calculation. I am improving it day by day. When I look at the chart, I look at it as there is a conspiracy. LOL Take a look at the chart. What do you think about? I think you have your own way. Maybe similar with mine Thank you again. BIG RESPECT This is...

I will get back to you next week. Will take a closer look at your chart.
  • #5,292
  • Apr 10, 2021 9:33pm Apr 10, 2021 9:33pm
can the gann/ murray 1/8 levels be plotted manually based of monthly weekly daily high and low ? I cant get xard777's indicator to work in mt5
  • #5,293
  • Apr 11, 2021 3:25am Apr 11, 2021 3:25am
Quoting stpdouglas86
can the gann/ murray 1/8 levels be plotted manually based of monthly weekly daily high and low ? I cant get xard777's indicator to work in mt5
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...3#post13481433

dave is very clued up about xard one hopefully he will explain

in short to your question there to me is two answears
yes can be plotted manualy as via the post link above
and also can be plotted in more fancy fashion something to do with October i think it was (better to speak to oap dave about it )
  • #5,294
  • Apr 11, 2021 3:34am Apr 11, 2021 3:34am
Quoting Sohocool
{quote} Hi dave , i have posted few years ago , Quantum Donchian Channel with 1/8 Gann levels : https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...61#post9681461 I think it can help you . {image}{image}{image} {file}
thankyou for your contributions where is best place to request tools / ideas did not want to tatty paris boys thread

request one box that follows octave but draws equal input as aposed to fractal ( option for both would be nice ) would ideally want to be able to draw as many as i like
eg - not like circle expert that just alows you one circle ...
would have to be based on pip distance even though im deriving at the conclusion via math formula dont know how from a coder perspective you would get the distance from the pips sure within your skill set youll work that one out

also would want it to draw trend lines like so

dont mind if paid project

thanks for your sustained efforts
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  • #5,295
  • Apr 11, 2021 3:58am Apr 11, 2021 3:58am
Quoting OAPDave
{quote} Hi 3.125 is the Murrey magic Number he base's his method on What he does is just divides it by 2 3.125 /2 =1.5625 1.5625 / 2 = 0.78125 etc He then sub divide those Octave numbers to get what I call mini Octaves see example At times you need to double the main Octave number so that would be 3.125 * 2 = 6.25 so now you would divide that octave in the same way This can be done with a manual Fib tool as Swede as shown Page 256 post 5164 Tbh if you can understand that your on the way ps The big difference between Murrey and Gann is were Gann...
thankyou for taking the time out your own life to write that dave your a top bloke
  • #5,296
  • Apr 11, 2021 5:20am Apr 11, 2021 5:20am
Quoting OAPDave
{quote} Hi 3.125 is the Murrey magic Number he base's his method on What he does is just divides it by 2 3.125 /2 =1.5625 1.5625 / 2 = 0.78125 etc He then sub divide those Octave numbers to get what I call mini Octaves see example At times you need to double the main Octave number so that would be 3.125 * 2 = 6.25 so now you would divide that octave in the same way This can be done with a manual Fib tool as Swede as shown Page 256 post 5164 Tbh if you can understand that your on the way ps The big difference between Murrey and Gann is were Gann...

Thanks for the in depth explanation definitely will be using the fib tool in the future.
  • #5,297
  • Apr 11, 2021 5:26am Apr 11, 2021 5:26am
Quoting RoninTheory
{quote} https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...3#post13481433 dave is very clued up about xard one hopefully he will explain in short to your question there to me is two answears yes can be plotted manualy as via the post link above and also can be plotted in more fancy fashion something to do with October i think it was (better to speak to oap dave about it )
thanks
  • #5,298
  • Apr 11, 2021 7:36am Apr 11, 2021 7:36am
Quoting Ihlas
{quote} Thank you for your support Acetrader It has shown that it's accurate for 3-4 weeks. But I need to check it more. I feel like on to something as you said. My main concern is my method as it doesn't need anything. Not MM, or any other indicator. But it's based on mathematical calculation. I am improving it day by day. When I look at the chart, I look at it as there is a conspiracy. LOL Take a look at the chart. What do you think about? I think you have your own way. Maybe similar with mine Thank you again. BIG RESPECT This is...
I watched.
this is also based only on non-functioning s / r zones.
good luck for that.
  • #5,299
  • Edited 9:09am Apr 11, 2021 8:52am | Edited 9:09am
Quoting RoninTheory
{quote} thankyou for your contributions where is best place to request tools / ideas did not want to tatty paris boys thread request one box that follows octave but draws equal input as aposed to fractal ( option for both would be nice ) would ideally want to be able to draw as many as i like eg - not like circle expert that just alows you one circle ... would have to be based on pip distance even though im deriving at the conclusion via math formula dont know how from a coder perspective you would get the distance from the pips sure within your...
Hi Ronin

I find for you on mql5 site a Gann Square indicator for free.

I don't test it ,but seems nice .

https://www.mql5.com/en/market/produ...w.google.be%2F

Or you can built square manualy :

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...3#post12785963
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  • #5,300
  • Edited 9:11am Apr 11, 2021 8:59am | Edited 9:11am
Quoting stpdouglas86
can the gann/ murray 1/8 levels be plotted manually based of monthly weekly daily high and low ? I cant get xard777's indicator to work in mt5
MT5 :

On mql5 site ,we can download 3 Murrey Math different indicators .

https://www.mql5.com/en/code/462

https://www.mql5.com/en/code/101

https://www.mql5.com/en/code/605
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