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  • #4,841
  • Edited 1:10pm Mar 12, 2021 9:40am | Edited 1:10pm
Quoting parisboy
BITCOIN 1 mn Tillman Forks {image}
merci pour votre aide aujourd'hui et le temps que vous avez pris pour expliquer les choses dans une autre pièce
tu es vraiment un homme très intelligent
j'espère qu'un jour, la chenille deviendra assez intelligente pour comprendre votre travail remarquable et comment vous avez avancé d'autres méthodes
merci pour le temps que vous avez consacré à moi et aux autres
vous souhaitant le week-end le plus magique
  • #4,842
  • Mar 15, 2021 3:04am Mar 15, 2021 3:04am
Quoting OAPDave
FLDs ? ps Alain Found the River Bank Theory really interesting {image}
Dave you are right. It is a "litterary" interesting concept which explains what we do with Envelopes. We have , because of Hurst, the technical tools to take advantage of it (Envelopes based on Centered Moving averages, Valid Trend Lines (VTL) , Future Line of Demarcation (FLD) andbecause of Tillman (Focal Points, Forks)

Notice that Neely's seminar cost(ed) 5.000 $
  • #4,843
  • Mar 15, 2021 4:16am Mar 15, 2021 4:16am
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Tillman Forks
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  • #4,844
  • Mar 15, 2021 4:22am Mar 15, 2021 4:22am
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Envelopes
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  • #4,845
  • Mar 15, 2021 4:24am Mar 15, 2021 4:24am
I dont know river theory , but it made me think of cylinder theory.
I came across this in my web travels and found it interesting.
http://www.bentamari.com/stocks.html
  • #4,846
  • Mar 15, 2021 4:28am Mar 15, 2021 4:28am
BITCOIN 1 mn

Tillman Forks
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  • #4,847
  • Mar 15, 2021 4:40am Mar 15, 2021 4:40am
Quoting rhk
I dont know river theory , but it made me think of cylinder theory. I came across this in my web travels and found it interesting. http://www.bentamari.com/stocks.html
Hi rhk, thanks for your interest . there is no free lunch in trading life.

you just have to read and study my thread Most of your questions are answered there about Time, Cycles, how to trade Channels etc with numerous examples. Everything there is "actionable" . Precise, detailed step by step, justified on a theoretical point of view.

Neely's seminar about River Theory was charged 5.000 $ the last time I looked.

Note that Neely after taking on the side his interpretation of Elliott has just reshaped basic Channel Analysis under the name of River Theory. It is just marketing.

Basically Price Action fluctuates within "Channels" centered on a Moving Average. This Channel shows you the maximum probable measured move of the Price Swing. Then after some time Price returns to the mean. This has value within a specific TimeFrame.

Change in Trend (Up or Down) are the result of what Jim Hurst calls the Underlying Trend = Influence of Price Action of Higher TimeFrames = technically sum of the Higher Order Cycles.
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  • #4,848
  • Mar 15, 2021 4:44am Mar 15, 2021 4:44am
Quoting rhk
I dont know river theory , but it made me think of cylinder theory. I came across this in my web travels and found it interesting. http://www.bentamari.com/stocks.html
http://www.bentamari.com/stocks.html
  • #4,849
  • Mar 15, 2021 4:57am Mar 15, 2021 4:57am
Quoting parisboy
{quote} Hi rhk, thanks for your interest . there is no free lunch in trading life. you just have to read and study my thread Most of your questions are answered there about Time, Cycles, how to trade Channels etc with numerous examples. Everything there is "actionable" . Precise, detailed step by step, justified on a theoretical point of view. Neely's seminar about River Theory was charged 5.000 $ the last time I looked. Note that Neely after taking on the side his interpretation of Elliott has just reshaped basic Channel Analysis under...
ive said it to 4 men before and ill never get tired of saying it even if it perhaps one day becomes anoying

but you four men ARE LEDGENDS

even though no one book holds definite answer or success potion the will to read makes you smarter/wiser

thankyou
  • #4,850
  • Edited 6:08am Mar 15, 2021 5:42am | Edited 6:08am
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Influence (Zone in rose) of the bearish Underliyng trend on Price Action (sum of all Cycles whose frequency, vibration, period is greater than 256 Time Unit)
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  • #4,851
  • Mar 15, 2021 5:45am Mar 15, 2021 5:45am
Quoting parisboy
{quote} Hi rhk, thanks for your interest . there is no free lunch in trading life. you just have to read and study my thread Most of your questions are answered there about Time, Cycles, how to trade Channels etc with numerous examples. Everything there is "actionable" . Precise, detailed step by step, justified on a theoretical point of view. Neely's seminar about River Theory was charged 5.000 $ the last time I looked. Note that Neely after taking on the side his interpretation of Elliott has just reshaped basic Channel Analysis under...
Alain
You present fantastic information in all shapes and sizes, must admit that some goes over my head, the more I look at my charts and the more I re read the information, the more the muddy water starts to clear
I owe it to you, as you know I am interested in your style and method, to make every effort I can to understand what you show, even when I struggle at times to connect to all the different chapters that make the Parisboy Complete Trading Book
but hey I do try, even if I do not get it right all the times
  • #4,852
  • Edited 7:15am Mar 15, 2021 6:10am | Edited 7:15am
Quoting OAPDave
{quote} Alain You present fantastic information in all shapes and sizes, must admit that some goes over my head, the more I look at my charts and the more I re read the information, the more the muddy water starts to clear I owe it to you, as you know I am interested in your style and method, to make every effort I can to understand what you show, even when I struggle at times to connect to all the different chapters that make the Parisboy Complete Trading Book but hey I do try, even if I do not get it right all the times

GoD himself needed 7 days to shape the world !
  • #4,853
  • Mar 15, 2021 6:24am Mar 15, 2021 6:24am
Quoting OAPDave
Just start at the beginning to see the value of the Envelopes (256 & 32 ) {image}
Did not get what you mean.
Can you please elaborate a bit about the value with a chart example?
Thanks
  • #4,854
  • Edited 7:01am Mar 15, 2021 6:41am | Edited 7:01am
Quoting OAPDave
{quote} Alain You present fantastic information in all shapes and sizes, must admit that some goes over my head, the more I look at my charts and the more I re read the information, the more the muddy water starts to clear I owe it to you, as you know I am interested in your style and method, to make every effort I can to understand what you show, even when I struggle at times to connect to all the different chapters that make the Parisboy Complete Trading Book but hey I do try, even if I do not get it right all the times
could not have said it better my self lovely words dave

im just trying to apply abit of sound advice from sweede (thanks to sweedes kindness im actually able to give this a decent try for the meantime kindness in the sense im abit of spaz to get up and running with it all maybe being a spaz will be my edge ..) but he said to focus on bite size chunks and to not front run to much with all the valuable imoformation i think shaff forks are next on my list for me before fld- but for me at present im content drawing vtls and playing with probability's before i start advancing to much

at present im just having alot of fun/ beginers luck with vtl's and educated tollerence and using fibs and proberbilities ( reflecting on this the first few paragraphs of the ross beck book really hammered it home with probabilities for me and it the book at that point was just talking of common sense and not trading )

beginners luck lives on day2 ( ON DEMMO just a humble caterpiller)-for this to continue it will be a mathematicians job and some perseverance on what is realistic in realms of math and getting filled brokers gapping spread ect - whether said tricks are less in futures i don't know


for trades to make sense - mathematically like ross beck first few paragraphs size would most proberly be an issue in this scenario if say i was doing a prop trial but that is just math probabilities scaling it down
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  • #4,855
  • Edited 7:16am Mar 15, 2021 7:04am | Edited 7:16am
Quoting OAPDave
{quote} Yes Fibs not the only game in town {image} {image}
nice dave but i like to stumble around in the dark a little and try to figure my enemy out

a cleaner chart to expain the earlier eye blinding one

in this cleaner example im focusing on one vtl to hopefully iluminate my point as in my previous post in hear today ive got 3 running which just looks a mess thought id post a clean example of what im actually doing

-for the passer by i am but a humble student demmo trader-
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  • #4,856
  • Mar 15, 2021 7:05am Mar 15, 2021 7:05am
Quoting OAPDave
{quote} Merka Sohocool Indicator does all the work for us When we enter just the 256 envelope number ( posts have a 625 ) the 128 & 32 envelope automictically get set and shown When first looking it may seem a blur to your eyes To help get the feel for the method just go into the colours and delete each set of Envelopes until your eyes start to see more clearly what is happening I have posted this (4844) and I have just post a combination of any 2 from 3 envelopes ps Here are just the 256 & 128 Envelopes {image}
Thanks
  • #4,857
  • Mar 15, 2021 7:41am Mar 15, 2021 7:41am
Quoting RoninTheory
{quote} nice dave but i like to stumble around in the dark a little and try to figure my enemy out a cleaner chart to expain the earlier eye blinding one in this cleaner example im focusing on one vtl to hopefully iluminate my point as in my previous post in hear today ive got 3 running which just looks a mess thought id post a clean example of what im actually doing -for the passer by i am but a humble student demmo trader- {image} {image}
DEMMO TRADER DONT MIND ME

gbp usd short gonna cover at 1.38954mark give or take tp's are in

lets see if my weekend staring at charts did me any good
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  • #4,858
  • Edited 8:39am Mar 15, 2021 8:16am | Edited 8:39am
Quoting OAPDave
or even {image}
im majority out from my first tp and covered the remainder could stand on its nose

there my tickets might look to get long over 1.39111

pay me no mind im a demmo trader

proberly hedg up the 5 at the 1.3900 if it don't hit its tp dont get hit first

job done thats the runners paid for 2nd image

- as i have said the size im using is a overselest to be realistic unless i was a well trusted finaciere which at present im not however scaled down with good math i feel that getting positions to pay for themself at tp one is sensible and using abit of casino math where appropriate

thanks to the great men who contribute epic things that allow me to apply myself and become a better and smarter person most of all help me become inspired
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  • #4,859
  • Mar 15, 2021 8:45am Mar 15, 2021 8:45am
Quoting OAPDave
{quote} Update Decent Range in now ? {image}
nice and clean off the big number off sweedes template in time and price that one
  • #4,860
  • Mar 15, 2021 8:51am Mar 15, 2021 8:51am
Quoting OAPDave
{quote} NO MY Template
i do apologise

your template shared by sweede - in time and price

sorry i never new i figured cuz he shared it i do apologise you know when i mention 4 men your one of the big four ( just you dont like credit )
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