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  • #4,601
  • Feb 13, 2021 9:02am Feb 13, 2021 9:02am
Quoting RoninTheory
{quote} measured on different adr of quarter calculation {image} {image}
Ronin you need to hierarchize your Swings, Waves

Even visually you can estimate that if the Amplitude and Period of Cycle(s) 1 is A, Amplitude of Cycle 2 is close to 2 x A , and Amplitude of Cycle 3 should be 3 x A and Amplitudeand Period of Cycle 4 is 2 Times those of Cycle 3

Hurst calls that the Priciple of Proportionality
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  • #4,602
  • Feb 13, 2021 9:08am Feb 13, 2021 9:08am
Quoting parisboy
{quote} Ronin you need to hierarchize your Swings, Waves Even visually you can estimate that if the Amplitude and Period of Cycle(s) 1 is A, Amplitude of Cycle 2 is close to 2 x A , and Amplitude of Cycle 3 should be 3 x A and Amplitudeand Period of Cycle 4 is 2 Times those of Cycle 3 Hurst calls that the Priciple of Proportionality {image}
thankyou so mutch for taking time out of your life to write that in the understandable mannor that you did
very informative

you are a huge inspiration

with a beautiful spirit

thankyou

how do you use such imoformation ? to make informed discretionary decisions ?
  • #4,603
  • Feb 13, 2021 9:09am Feb 13, 2021 9:09am
Quoting RoninTheory
{quote} thankyou so mutch for taking time out of your life to write that in the understandable mannor that you did very informative you are a huge inspiration with a beautiful spirit thankyou
you are welcome
  • #4,604
  • Feb 13, 2021 9:12am Feb 13, 2021 9:12am
Quoting parisboy
{quote} you are welcome
sir how do you use such imoformation to make informed discretionary decisions ? so on that chart you beautifully illustrated

how would you use or interpret the imoformation of each part you sectioned out and categorised
  • #4,605
  • Feb 13, 2021 9:15am Feb 13, 2021 9:15am
Quoting RoninTheory
{quote} sir how do you use such imoformation to make informed discretionary decisions ? so on that chart you beautifully illustrated how would you use or interpret the imoformation of each part you sectioned out and categorised
it is explained at legth on the thread.It is a synthesis of the various tools showns. Some being unusabe according to the circumstances. But all tools are linked by the same logic.

My best advice is : open a demo account and ptcatice going from the theory / methodology to the real trading decisions and vice versa
  • #4,606
  • Edited 10:14am Feb 13, 2021 9:18am | Edited 10:14am
Quoting parisboy
{quote} it is explained at legth on the thread.It is a synthesis of the various tools showns. Some being unusabe according to the circumstances. But all tools are linked by the same logic. My best advice is : open a demo account and ptcatice going from the theory / methodology to the real trading decisions and vice versa
okay thank you for your advice

i just wondered how you got them in a numbered category( i read like 5 times and feel i get that now)

still most curious how you your self would interpret the relevance of each one? and perhaps a loose guide on how you would use the imoformation

none the less thankyou for all time and advice dispensed

whishing you a lovely weekend
  • #4,607
  • Feb 13, 2021 1:33pm Feb 13, 2021 1:33pm
Quoting parisboy
seen on another forum {image}
so you said all things lie hear in

so youve thrown me a bone and hears me chewing and sucking on that bone a little trying to morph into a more knowledgeable human

it was quite entertaining reading the discussion you were having with the quant coder guy where you say your not that clever to me your genius

my self i look like the cave man photo Dimond minor posted

any who lets embarrass my self- possibly- ive picked this post to draw how interpret ( hopefully correctly) the conversations you and vqs have been having ( i have very much enjoyed watching these unfold as i have been learning a little from his questions )

in the first image this is how i interpreted your vtls from your discussions i picked this one as it has or seems to offer the most drawing points to ask a question in your earlier examples even though im sure your showing me something I'm not quite sure what but i belive that is for the most part due to lack of knowing by myself

2nd chart how i interpret entry's and stop placement via discussions i have observed thus far

first image i believe from what i read your saved an entry by it not actually breaking the mean line of the green envelope? as i noticed you trade the dax in your earlier example and your vtl was broke it didn't break the mean so you actually went long in the end.
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  • #4,608
  • Feb 14, 2021 3:17am Feb 14, 2021 3:17am
BITCOIN 1 mn

Long in progress
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  • #4,609
  • Feb 14, 2021 3:30am Feb 14, 2021 3:30am
BITCOIN 1 mn

Long Follow up + 140 points
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  • #4,610
  • Feb 14, 2021 3:55am Feb 14, 2021 3:55am
Quoting parisboy
BITCOIN 1 mn Long in progress {image}
nice trade your one of the few that post ahead of time which is really credible

may i ask why you dont have the outer bands on crypto ? and i notice your using forks more any particular reason
  • #4,611
  • Feb 14, 2021 4:03am Feb 14, 2021 4:03am
BITCOIN 1 mn

Closed Long position + 250 points
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  • #4,612
  • Feb 14, 2021 4:05am Feb 14, 2021 4:05am
Quoting RoninTheory
{quote} nice trade your one of the few that post ahead of time which is really credible may i ask why you dont have the outer bands on crypto ? and i notice your using forks more any particular reason

Trades in Bitcoin are difficult to post "Live" in 1 mn because of the extreme volatility
  • #4,613
  • Feb 14, 2021 4:11am Feb 14, 2021 4:11am
Quoting RoninTheory
{quote} nice trade your one of the few that post ahead of time which is really credible may i ask why you dont have the outer bands on crypto ? and i notice your using forks more any particular reason
BITCOIN Envelopes
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  • #4,614
  • Feb 14, 2021 4:20am Feb 14, 2021 4:20am
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  • #4,615
  • Feb 14, 2021 4:32am Feb 14, 2021 4:32am
BITCOIN 1 mn

Envelopes

2 nd Long in Progress + 150 points

Notice that the Envelope 256 Time Units (brown) seems to change direction from Bullish to Flat / Neutral
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  • #4,616
  • Feb 14, 2021 4:55am Feb 14, 2021 4:55am
Quoting parisboy
{image}
so hear i notice your vtls but i have a question when you have defined them to me before your description is outside or touch of the band

this one hear doesn't meet that criteria on the same envelope however meets the criteria described on two different envelopes I'm assuming you still consider this valid because youve drawn it i just notice this ones different in that sense from the rest
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  • #4,617
  • Edited 5:10am Feb 14, 2021 4:56am | Edited 5:10am
Quoting parisboy
BITCOIN 1 mn Envelopes 2 nd Long in Progress + 150 points Notice that the Envelope 256 Time Units (brown) seems to change direction from Bullish to Flat / Neutral {image}
yes i notice brown

how do you interpret that imoformation sir? the transition of flat / neutral from bullish
  • #4,618
  • Feb 14, 2021 5:34am Feb 14, 2021 5:34am
Quoting parisboy
BITCOIN 1 mn Envelopes 2 nd Long in Progress + 150 points Notice that the Envelope 256 Time Units (brown) seems to change direction from Bullish to Flat / Neutral {image}
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  • #4,619
  • Feb 14, 2021 6:00am Feb 14, 2021 6:00am
Quoting RoninTheory
{quote} yes i notice brown how do you interpret that imoformation sir? the transition of flat / neutral from bullish
IF the Envelope 256 Time Units (brown) goes from Bullish to Flat / Neutral - changing direction it means that ALL Cycles whose period is greater than 256 minutes have their Composite (summed) strength reduced to Zero. Hence Speed and Acceleration of the Bullish Trend will be decreasing.
  • #4,620
  • Feb 14, 2021 6:02am Feb 14, 2021 6:02am
Quoting RoninTheory
{quote} {image}
If you link 2 successive adjacent Lows of the Envelope 32 Time Units (blue ) , yes it is a VTL
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