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  • #114,161
  • Jan 2, 2021 6:48am Jan 2, 2021 6:48am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} Did you know this? MACD(2,13,7) replicates the original TDI (2,0,13,34,2,0,7) quite nicely as tested by some members going way back to 2011. It can be use as a technical filter with the RSI and Stoch to trade the 5-Method. The other components - - APB/HA candle - 5EMA Typical Price, Shift+2 (or +3) are still the main components on the price chart above to see the price action but what it boils down to is still .... One, Two...
Quoting eelfranz
I'm going to do a test on the Daily charts. When green crosses red I'll stay in until green crosses red again. I'll report the results in a week or so... I'll only enter if the candles are medium length or larger... wish me luck ...

A chart example using MACD(2,13,7) to replace the TDI

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  • #114,162
  • Jan 2, 2021 7:16am Jan 2, 2021 7:16am
Quoting emmanuel7788
{quote} {quote} A chart example using MACD(2,13,7) to replace the TDI {image}
I like it...

Daily, Stochastic (8,3,3), MACD(2,13,7) -- and trading signal-to-signal...

I'd say BigE's experiment is a winner!
  • #114,163
  • Jan 2, 2021 7:54am Jan 2, 2021 7:54am
Quoting robots4me
{quote} I like it... Daily, Stochastic (8,3,3), MACD(2,13,7) -- and trading signal-to-signal... I'd say BigE's experiment is a winner!
Which post in this thread did BigE experiment with MACD, for that matter any of his posts in forexfactory?
  • #114,164
  • Jan 2, 2021 8:04am Jan 2, 2021 8:04am
Using BBMACD and robots4me stochastic trend. Good entry signal.

Thanks robots4me & Emmanuel.
Happy New Year 2021 to everyone
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  • #114,165
  • Jan 2, 2021 8:20am Jan 2, 2021 8:20am
Quoting Tekkies
{quote} Which post in this thread did BigE experiment with MACD, for that matter any of his posts in forexfactory?
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...27#post5421427

@Tekkies -- you've been here over 5 years. Here is a simple tip. In the upper left-hand corner of each thread there are 3 edit boxes -- "Search This Thread", "Go to Post #", and "Go to Page #". In the "Search This Thread" type the characters 'M', 'A', 'C', 'D', and then press the little button with the picture of a magnifying glass.

Wait a moment -- that may be a bit complicated for you. Let me post a picture:
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@Tekkies -- in case it is not clear from the picture, you press the search button AFTER you've entered the search string, not before...
  • #114,166
  • Jan 2, 2021 8:25am Jan 2, 2021 8:25am
Quoting Tekkies
{quote} Which post in this thread did BigE experiment with MACD, for that matter any of his posts in forexfactory?
It's in the same post where he reports the results of trades with entry at TDI green cross red and exit at the subsequent TDI green cross red the other direction.

(Maybe one of the more studious members will take it upon himself to search for that post and give the link to it.)
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  • #114,167
  • Jan 2, 2021 8:36am Jan 2, 2021 8:36am
Quoting Tekkies
{quote} Which post in this thread did BigE experiment with MACD, for that matter any of his posts in forexfactory?
His experiment lead to TMS, this experiment is mirrowed in macd (2,13,7), simple, when you read it with unbiased mind. i know you are pro 'no additions whatsoever to BigE ideals', leave the decision to the seeker to make because time effects changes in a lot of things. whether you like it or not, forex trading is personality trait driven, you teach the basics and leave the trader to experiment, learn to accomodate diverse views so far its not counter productive. I love the TMS, however, there should be room for positive input, diversifying of ideas, testing of your idea. Go read the story of HENRY FORD, he learned this fact the hard way. TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCEMENT gives room for more ideas, I learnt how to save the time to reading through a lot of posts through your post about bigE fullpdf, BigE got this to a point but thats not the ultimate destination, give room for improvement, otherwise, you have limited yourself to his highest achievement, unless you feel all should stop where BigE stopped, thats not possible, there will ALWAYS be those who will attempt and achieve the impossible. Whether you agree or not.
  • #114,168
  • Jan 2, 2021 8:43am Jan 2, 2021 8:43am
Hey tekkies, you've been here for over 5 years, right? So I bet that unlike many other members, you actually know how to use the search function, and use it, right?

Like, maybe you did a search such is this and found all of the posts on FF of BigE that he mentions "macd". Just look at the results below, and I am certain that you will not be the least bit surprised, but many other members that have been swayed by the rhetoric and propaganda being spread by some of the attendees of the Joseph Goebbels School of Propaganda, will be shocked by the result.

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  • #114,169
  • Jan 2, 2021 8:49am Jan 2, 2021 8:49am
Quoting Tekkies
{quote} Which post in this thread did BigE experiment with MACD, for that matter any of his posts in forexfactory?
I think that there are some posters who had a little too much "holiday cheer", and are still hard at work to finish it off, because they give links to posts that don't even contain the supporting material that they seem to think is there! LOL

Or, a more likely explanation, they have such poor technical and organizational skills that after having 2 topics in their heads at one time to contemplate, they are so confused that, well, you saw the result.
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  • #114,170
  • Jan 2, 2021 9:09am Jan 2, 2021 9:09am
Quoting DrDave
Hey tekkies, you've been here for over 5 years, right? So I bet that unlike many other members, you actually know how to use the search function, and use it, right? Like, maybe you did a search such is this and found all of the posts on FF of BigE that he mentions "macd". Just look at the results below, and I am certain that you will not be the least bit surprised, but many other members that have been swayed by the rhetoric and propaganda being spread by some of the attendees of the Joseph Goebbels School of Propaganda, will be shocked by the result....
That is why I asked.
Wait a sec..... mmm....... Goebbels robbots4me propaganda????
  • #114,171
  • Jan 2, 2021 10:06am Jan 2, 2021 10:06am
Quoting Tekkies
{quote} That is why I asked. Wait a sec..... mmm....... Goebbels robbots4me propaganda????
[Sh-h-h-h-h-h-h-h-h...!
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You know that there are some VERY sensitive members that blow a gasket
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when they are exposed for their mistakes (or just out right lies, in many cases). You wouldn't want them to start a new year in tantrum mode, would you? ]
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  • #114,172
  • Jan 2, 2021 10:53am Jan 2, 2021 10:53am
Me having really hard time trying to understand why people use indicators for entries and not truly believing what their eyes see on the chart.
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  • #114,173
  • Jan 2, 2021 12:04pm Jan 2, 2021 12:04pm
Quoting PixelSniper
Me having really hard time trying to understand why people use indicators for entries and not truly believing what their eyes see on the chart. {image}
If you have data that shows the entries via an indicator signal results in positive net results, why not use it? It's way easier to see (and automate) something like an indicator crossover than to view and analyze price bars for entry decisions.
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  • #114,174
  • Jan 2, 2021 12:13pm Jan 2, 2021 12:13pm
Quoting DrDave
{quote} If you have data that shows the entries via an indicator signal results in positive net results, why not use it? It's way easier to see (and automate) something like an indicator crossover than to view and analyze price bars for entry decisions.
Yeah but, what causes the price form such a structure that would make your indicators crossover, I'm more about that.
Before the crossover happened, some people / money already decided and predicted what could happen or speculate and the indicators would only validate that,that means their risk will be smaller + profits most likely to be more or exits will be eaisier.. no?
  • #114,175
  • Jan 2, 2021 12:15pm Jan 2, 2021 12:15pm
Quoting PixelSniper
Me having really hard time trying to understand why people use indicators for entries and not truly believing what their eyes see on the chart. {image}
TDI setup green cross red with angle above/below 12/2 buy, 2/4 no trade, 4/6 sell with Stoch confirming direction is only a references point on the chart from where to apply post#647.

Attach a alert to that setup and go about your live, check chart when alert is given.
Next alert close trades and check chart if TDI setup is valid for next set of entry's.
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Depending on the timeframe (H1) you trade, you check the chart with them "eyes" every hour. TDI only remove some of the guessing with price action if that chart setup is correct.

Quoting PixelSniper
{quote} Yeah but, what causes the price form such a structure that would make your indicators crossover, I'm more about that. Before the crossover happened, some people / money already decided and predicted what could happen or speculate and the indicators would only validate that,that means their risk will be smaller + profits most likely to be more or exits will be eaisier.. no?
What is the difference, Sniper?
The same "people / money" that cause TDI to give a signal to enter a trade, is the same "people / money" that give the "eyes" the signal to enter a trade.

That TDI signal beginning late/lag the "eye" signal is open to debate.
  • #114,176
  • Jan 2, 2021 12:44pm Jan 2, 2021 12:44pm
Quoting A-5
{quote} His experiment lead to TMS, this experiment is mirrowed in macd (2,13,7), simple, when you read it with unbiased mind. i know you are pro 'no additions whatsoever to BigE ideals', leave the decision to the seeker to make because time effects changes in a lot of things. whether you like it or not, forex trading is personality trait driven, you teach the basics and leave the trader to experiment, learn to accomodate diverse views so far its not counter productive. I love the TMS, however, there should be room for positive input, diversifying...
BigE did not experiment with MACD, period.
>Robots4me experimented with MACD and that post should/could/maybe have been written as "my experiment with MACD was successful".
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A-5, the ultimate destination will be to "fix" post#25 TDI not to repaint the red/green lines on chart refresh, have the same TDI setups in back testing and still only update on bar close.
  • #114,177
  • Jan 2, 2021 1:07pm Jan 2, 2021 1:07pm
Well It's just my primal instincts are still telling me to buy low and sell high.
I deeply hate crossovers.
  • #114,178
  • Jan 2, 2021 1:13pm Jan 2, 2021 1:13pm
Quoting Tekkies
{quote} BigE did not experiment with MACD, period. >Robots4me experimented with MACD and that post should/could/maybe have been written as "my experiment with MACD was successful". ---- A-5, the ultimate destination will be to "fix" post#25 TDI not to repaint the red/green lines on chart refresh, have the same TDI setups in back testing and still only update on bar close.
@Tekkies -- you idiot. As many times as has been explained to you (G-d help me) -- repainting and refreshing are different. You have the source code for the indicators -- confirm for yourself.

Repainting occurs when the code goes back in time and updates the visual markings. TDI does not repaint. MACD does not repaint.

Refreshing occurs when ticks haven't arrived to force MT4 to call the OnCalculate() entry point. If new ticks do not arrive then OnCalculate() does not get called -- hence, the code doesn't run and visual markings are not updated.

@Tekkies -- I know that you still don't get it. I'm writing this for the benefit of others and to counter the misinformation you continue to spread throughout this thread.

@Tekkies -- back to you...
  • #114,179
  • Jan 2, 2021 1:39pm Jan 2, 2021 1:39pm
Quoting PixelSniper
{quote} Yeah but, what causes the price form such a structure that would make your indicators crossover, I'm more about that. Before the crossover happened, some people / money already decided and predicted what could happen or speculate and the indicators would only validate that,that means their risk will be smaller + profits most likely to be more or exits will be eaisier.. no?
I really don't care about the WHAT that is the causation: I care about the fact that the crossover occurred, because I use LAGGING indicators that enable me to play follow-the-leader rather than trying to guess/hope/pray (whatever) that HERE is where the price is turning so I'll jump in now.
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  • #114,180
  • Jan 2, 2021 2:09pm Jan 2, 2021 2:09pm
Quoting robots4me
{quote} @Tekkies -- you idiot. As many times as has been explained to you (G-d help me) -- repainting and refreshing are different. You have the source code for the indicators -- confirm for yourself. Repainting occurs when the code goes back in time and updates the visual markings. TDI does not repaint. MACD does not repaint. Refreshing occurs when ticks haven't arrived to force MT4 to call the OnCalculate() entry point. If new ticks do not arrive then OnCalculate() does not get called -- hence, the code doesn't run and visual markings are not...
TDI does not repaint.
> Repainting occurs when the code goes back in time and updates the visual markings.
Even your hero has spotted the repainting.
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Of course you have deeper understand then this https://forex-station.com/viewtopic....17dd6df1e0495b
"The three official TDI indicators (non-repainting) for MT4"
Now why would the author have such a title?
Or even write about TDI repainting issues.
I know why he forgot to consult mister know-all robots4me.
One not refreshed, one flipped from H1 to M15.
Take your pick.
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One has green cross red, one does not have green cross red.
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Keep on writing Steve, the more you write the more you show reader's how little do you know.
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